Lifan gy200cc stuck in gear?

Zachattack5210 · 08-10-2018, 03:55 PM

so I put a new clutch lever on and decided to shift through the gears (not riding, just sitting) and then suddenly its stuck in gear, turn the ignition on to see it says its in 5th gear. The bike isn't running right now so I cant ride it to see if that'll help it out of gear. Did I break something? I havent dropped the bike but the person I purchased it from did break the front headlight running it into a tree at low speeds.

I hope its a simple fix. Let me know if you have any ideas whats going on.

pete · 08-10-2018, 06:19 PM

rock it back and fowards while moving the gear lever...

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Zachattack5210 · 08-11-2018, 03:11 PM

I tried that but no luck

Ariel Red Hunter · 08-11-2018, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachattack5210

I tried that but no luck

I can't help you with this except to say others have had this problem before. The problem usually is in the gear change mechanism under the left crank case cover. Not in the actual shifting drum, but in the rotary stop mech., which you can access from under that cover. There are threads on this site that show the whole process, and one picture from the factory service manual that shows how it is supposed to look...ARH

culcune · 08-12-2018, 03:24 AM

Start with the clutch cable, first. I had a similar problem with a mid-2000s GY200 when I lived in Yuma, AZ, and paid a backyard mechanic in Mexico to install a brand new crate engine. It was cheap enough, the engine was fine, but he left too much slack on the cable (I am trying to recall the issue, but it was 13 or 14 years ago!). I got stranded on the bike, and ended up parting it out thinking it was hopeless. The guy who bought what was left of the bike told me it was the clutch cable. I would start there.

Zachattack5210 · 08-12-2018, 04:00 PM

Ok, I'll see what I can do, and keep you posted on the process! I'll check the cable for sure sense I did just install a new clutch lever

pete · 08-13-2018, 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ariel Red Hunter

I can't help you with this except to say others have had this problem before. The problem usually is in the gear change mechanism under the left crank case cover. Not in the actual shifting drum, but in the rotary stop mech., which you can access from under that cover. There are threads on this site that show the whole process, and one picture from the factory service manual that shows how it is supposed to look...ARH

just as a follow on...
check the spring on the detent... could be getting weak...
the detent index's the selector drum in the correct position.."gear"
it may not have indexed correctly and it is sitting between 2 gears..
If that is the case the hooked arm will not beable to grab either of
the pins for up or down to rotate the selector drum...

Hooked arm!!!..there are a couple of diffrent systems but the idea is the same
the drum has to be indexed in the correct postion for it to be in gear..one gear only...
These motors being a honda copy i would imagine they use the double hooked arm
to rotate the selector drum...
The detent will be a small roller on a spring loaded arm that runs around the star shaped end
of the selector drum...

I know it all sounds a bit complex...but once you see it you will realize
it's really quite simple in how it all works...

...

Ariel Red Hunter · 08-13-2018, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete

just as a follow on...
check the spring on the detent... could be getting weak...
the detent index's the selector drum in the correct position.."gear"
it may not have indexed correctly and it is sitting between 2 gears..
If that is the case the hooked arm will not beable to grab either of
the pins for up or down to rotate the selector drum...

Hooked arm!!!..there are a couple of diffrent systems but the idea is the same
the drum has to be indexed in the correct postion for it to be in gear..one gear only...
These motors being a honda copy i would imagine they use the double hooked arm
to rotate the selector drum...
The detent will be a small roller on a spring loaded arm that runs around the star shaped end
of the selector drum...

I know it all sounds a bit complex...but once you see it you will realize
it's really quite simple in how it all works...

...

You are absoluty right, buddy!...ARH

Zachattack5210 · 08-14-2018, 12:08 PM

Thank you guys for all the help!! I got a new shifter lever because the old one was bent a little. So I feel dumb,

turns out on this engine the gear selection is not the standard style. Instead of 1 down and 4 up its 5 down and then all the way back up to neutral. I can't believe i some how didn't feel that when first shifted it. Since the shift lever was bent it wasn't letting me shift up properly, so when I install the new lever it shifted up and all the way back to neutral. Again thanks for all the help but the bike running great now.

devbug · 09-25-2018, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pete

just as a follow on...
check the spring on the detent... could be getting weak...
the detent index's the selector drum in the correct position.."gear"
it may not have indexed correctly and it is sitting between 2 gears..
If that is the case the hooked arm will not beable to grab either of
the pins for up or down to rotate the selector drum...

Hooked arm!!!..there are a couple of diffrent systems but the idea is the same
the drum has to be indexed in the correct postion for it to be in gear..one gear only...
These motors being a honda copy i would imagine they use the double hooked arm
to rotate the selector drum...
The detent will be a small roller on a spring loaded arm that runs around the star shaped end
of the selector drum...

I know it all sounds a bit complex...but once you see it you will realize
it's really quite simple in how it all works...

...

I was looking around to see who had similar issues to me, and this post seemed to have the most in common with my issue. I have issues from time to time where it seems like my detent is not indexing on the star-shaped cog connected to the selector drum. My shifting arm doesnt appear to be bent, but I am seeing some odd wear on the opposite end of the bar that it sits on (that passes through the engine). The end of the bar is worn and shiny, as is what looks like a stop that's cast into the clutch cover body itself. If I look closely, there appear to be little micro-cracks forming around the casting in that cover, making me assume I'm getting some sort of horizontal play that is preventing the detend to operate correctly. To date, I haven't seen how to correct this.

08-10-2018, 03:55 PM	#1
Zachattack5210 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Colorado Posts: 6	Lifan gy200cc stuck in gear? so I put a new clutch lever on and decided to shift through the gears (not riding, just sitting) and then suddenly its stuck in gear, turn the ignition on to see it says its in 5th gear. The bike isn't running right now so I cant ride it to see if that'll help it out of gear. Did I break something? I havent dropped the bike but the person I purchased it from did break the front headlight running it into a tree at low speeds. I hope its a simple fix. Let me know if you have any ideas whats going on.
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08-10-2018, 06:19 PM	#2
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08-12-2018, 03:24 AM	#5
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,055	Start with the clutch cable, first. I had a similar problem with a mid-2000s GY200 when I lived in Yuma, AZ, and paid a backyard mechanic in Mexico to install a brand new crate engine. It was cheap enough, the engine was fine, but he left too much slack on the cable (I am trying to recall the issue, but it was 13 or 14 years ago!). I got stranded on the bike, and ended up parting it out thinking it was hopeless. The guy who bought what was left of the bike told me it was the clutch cable. I would start there. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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08-11-2018, 03:11 PM	#3
Zachattack5210 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Colorado Posts: 6	I tried that but no luck
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08-12-2018, 04:00 PM	#6
Zachattack5210 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Colorado Posts: 6	Ok, I'll see what I can do, and keep you posted on the process! I'll check the cable for sure sense I did just install a new clutch lever
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08-14-2018, 12:08 PM	#9
Zachattack5210 Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: Colorado Posts: 6	Thank you guys for all the help!! I got a new shifter lever because the old one was bent a little. So I feel dumb, turns out on this engine the gear selection is not the standard style. Instead of 1 down and 4 up its 5 down and then all the way back up to neutral. I can't believe i some how didn't feel that when first shifted it. Since the shift lever was bent it wasn't letting me shift up properly, so when I install the new lever it shifted up and all the way back to neutral. Again thanks for all the help but the bike running great now.
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