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culcune · 12-07-2017, 12:45 AM

Watch the video; it is easier than it sounds. Can you post the link to the video here? I have heard of the K-Pipe, and from what I understand it is an okay bike, but in a 4 way comparison between a SSR Razkull 125 (Chinese Grom clone-ish bike), a Honda Grom, and a Kawasaki z125, it lost. Not because it is bad, but because the reviewers felt the others were better. However, one of our members just recently took ownership of the new Kymco Spade, a bike that kind of came out of left field following the Spade (seemingly no notice prior to launch--it just kind of arrived and stole the K-Pipe thunder).

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=19951

SlendyMayne · 12-07-2017, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by culcune

Watch the video; it is easier than it sounds. Can you post the link to the video here? I have heard of the K-Pipe, and from what I understand it is an okay bike, but in a 4 way comparison between a SSR Razkull 125 (Chinese Grom clone-ish bike), a Honda Grom, and a Kawasaki z125, it lost. Not because it is bad, but because the reviewers felt the others were better. However, one of our members just recently took ownership of the new Kymco Spade, a bike that kind of came out of left field following the Spade (seemingly no notice prior to launch--it just kind of arrived and stole the K-Pipe thunder).

Here's the link to the video. And you're right, it's a lot easier than it sounds. I just have to buy a feel gauge at AutoZone after work. Shame that that k-pipe didn't do so well but I've heard of the Spade. A dealer by my house sells them along with the k-pipe. I'd love one of those myself.

culcune · 12-07-2017, 06:26 PM

Don't let me talk you out of the K-Pipe; the magazine is the online magazine--crap, forget the name, but they tested the 4 bikes in San Gabriel, or some small city in the San Gabriel Valley, and into the mountains, and then back down, so were doing some fun to cost scale of economics which is why the SSR Razkull won and K-Pipe lost. It wasn't the cheapest nor performed the best.

SlendyMayne · 12-07-2017, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by culcune

Don't let me talk you out of the K-Pipe; the magazine is the online magazine--crap, forget the name, but they tested the 4 bikes in San Gabriel, or some small city in the San Gabriel Valley, and into the mountains, and then back down, so were doing some fun to cost scale of economics which is why the SSR Razkull won and K-Pipe lost. It wasn't the cheapest nor performed the best.

Well thats why I was considering getting one. Since I live in one of the country's most congested cities, I want something small, cheap, and high mpgs to get around in. I do prefer the size of the k-pipe but the 1.2 gal tank does bother me. But I'll definitely consider the Spade or the Sym Wolf, mainly for the power. Ninjas and CBRs are way too common. I want to stand out

Megadan · 12-07-2017, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SlendyMayne

Well thats why I was considering getting one. Since I live in one of the country's most congested cities, I want something small, cheap, and high mpgs to get around in. I do prefer the size of the k-pipe but the 1.2 gal tank does bother me. But I'll definitely consider the Spade or the Sym Wolf, mainly for the power. Ninjas and CBRs are way too common. I want to stand out

Another Grom-like option, but uses a 12hp counterbalanced 150cc vertical engine like the Kymco Spade, is the Lifan KP150 Mini. Being a Lifan, it should be of very decent quality, and they retail new for around $2200-2300 ( sometimes more depending on the dealer). The only thing I don't know about, is if they are 50 state legal.

If you want something with 17 inch wheels like the K-pipe, and a little bit bigger than a Grom sized bike, the Lifan KP-200 would be the next step up. This would be a bike similar to your GS250, but it is water cooled and has a 6spd transmission.

SlendyMayne · 12-07-2017, 11:33 PM

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If you want something with 17 inch wheels like the K-pipe, and a little bit bigger than a Grom sized bike, the Lifan KP-200 would be the next step up. This would be a bike similar to your GS250, but it is water cooled and has a 6spd transmission.

What's the problem with water cooled engines?

culcune · 12-08-2017, 12:19 AM

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What's the problem with water cooled engines?

He just means it won't be 'simple' like the air-cooled Chinese enduros many members have, or your air-cooled bike. I know I have seen the Lifan KP150 Mini advertised in the L.A. area Craigslist, as well as the Lifan KP200/KPR200, but when I last called Lifan a few weeks ago, the customer service rep did say that it was not CARB certified, while the two 200s and the S-Ray scooter are CARB certified. The KPR 200 (fairing) is similar in spirit to your bike (small-displacement sporty bike), but has fuel-injection and liquid-cooled engine as you were asking above.

If I move back to California, besides my TGB Express scooter, I am thinking of the Lifan KP200 (non-fairing) as cheap transpo.

culcune · 12-08-2017, 12:28 AM

Here is the video--it was motorcycle.com I don't think there is anything wrong with the K-Pipe, unless it is overpriced, all things being equal. Use the advantages of the others to make a good deal.

SlendyMayne · 12-08-2017, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by culcune

Here is the video--it was motorcycle.com I don't think there is anything wrong with the K-Pipe, unless it is overpriced, all things being equal. Use the advantages of the others to make a good deal

Hmm it did give me good insight on the k-pipe. But after reminding me of the Spade, I might end up going that route. It's 1,000 bucks more but it'll perform much better

culcune · 12-08-2017, 08:13 PM

Did you read the thread from SamM regarding his Spade? He seems to like it a lot. That will give you first person experience of the Spade.

SlendyMayne · 12-08-2017, 10:41 PM

Yea I read through it, that's what's convincing me to go and check it out. I was considering the Sym wolf classic since it has a tad bit more power but the Spade has a hell of a lot more aftermarket support.

SlendyMayne · 12-10-2017, 04:36 PM

Quick update. Turns out the valves were definitely too tight. They didn't even move until I adjusted them. I used the PDF service manual that I was given. And I also discovered where my oil leaks were coming from the valve caps! So now I'm going to go ahead and buy new o rings for it.

12-07-2017, 12:45 AM	#16
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,056	Watch the video; it is easier than it sounds. Can you post the link to the video here? I have heard of the K-Pipe, and from what I understand it is an okay bike, but in a 4 way comparison between a SSR Razkull 125 (Chinese Grom clone-ish bike), a Honda Grom, and a Kawasaki z125, it lost. Not because it is bad, but because the reviewers felt the others were better. However, one of our members just recently took ownership of the new Kymco Spade, a bike that kind of came out of left field following the Spade (seemingly no notice prior to launch--it just kind of arrived and stole the K-Pipe thunder). http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=19951 __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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12-07-2017, 06:26 PM	#18
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,056	Don't let me talk you out of the K-Pipe; the magazine is the online magazine--crap, forget the name, but they tested the 4 bikes in San Gabriel, or some small city in the San Gabriel Valley, and into the mountains, and then back down, so were doing some fun to cost scale of economics which is why the SSR Razkull won and K-Pipe lost. It wasn't the cheapest nor performed the best. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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12-08-2017, 12:28 AM	#23
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,056	Here is the video--it was motorcycle.com I don't think there is anything wrong with the K-Pipe, unless it is overpriced, all things being equal. Use the advantages of the others to make a good deal. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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12-08-2017, 08:13 PM	#25
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,056	Did you read the thread from SamM regarding his Spade? He seems to like it a lot. That will give you first person experience of the Spade. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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12-08-2017, 10:41 PM	#26
SlendyMayne Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 28	Yea I read through it, that's what's convincing me to go and check it out. I was considering the Sym wolf classic since it has a tad bit more power but the Spade has a hell of a lot more aftermarket support.
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