11-20-2016, 08:33 AM | #31 |
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Do they have a dual sport?
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11-20-2016, 10:59 AM | #32 | |
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Yep, get your blog on and become the next everide (...NOT!).
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11-20-2016, 11:43 AM | #33 |
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Not yet--I expect the 'X-Pect' (couldn't resist) will be on the next 2017 EPA/DOT list, and perhaps at the same time their KPmini 150 (the Grom-like bike, but with a vertical 150cc engine which is about their only 'exciting' bike they show on their website) could also get certified.
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11-20-2016, 11:54 AM | #34 | |
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I would not doubt the horsepower number seeing as this bike (and the 150cc version) hits in the mid 60's to 75 mph when tested on many videos that I cannot understand since they are in various other languages (they video the speedo and they seem to be fairly consistent worldwide as far as KPH goes which I convert via Google to MPH). The 150cc version is winning many races in the domestic 150cc class in China, so that gives it some credibility. The 200's were their next step up. The only thing holding anything back is what, if any, things they had to tweak to pass the EPA certification vs. Russia, Turkey, Bangledash or Mexico (some of the videos I have watched). According to specs, it is a SOHC http://americanlifan.com/kpr-200/ (click on specifications)
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02-01-2017, 11:37 PM | #35 |
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Looks like they FINALLY updated their site--specs, information and some extra photos, and they show their 'city car' 4 wheel electric car thingy.
On first glance, seem 'boring' but when you really look at what they offer, it is apparent they are rolling out their products in the US in a cautious way. I think their enduro will be a game-changer-ish bike like the TT250. Their old GY 5 enduro was highly regarded and had a sense of quality above most every other Chinese bike at the time. I still wonder why they are sticking with a fuel-injected, 6 speed 200cc as their brand leader, but I do like that bike for what it is. Their Mini 150 is sure to throw the mini (clownbike? right Blackbike? I think you coined that term...)bike world on its head--150cc, vertical engine, 5 speed--theoretically freeway legal in California, AND "To top it off Lifan offers a 2-year “Fender to Fender” warranty with unlimited miles all at an amazing price." http://americanlifan.com/
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02-02-2017, 01:49 AM | #36 |
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02-02-2017, 06:31 AM | #37 |
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02-02-2017, 10:30 AM | #38 |
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Cautiously is a good word. Lifan was about the best you could get back in the day, besides the Zong Sierra,
The dual sport doesn't do a lot for me. Standard forks, rear drum and a non-balanced engine. It seems there's other, better options out there for cheap. Not sure how Lifan will price this but at least they're willing to play again. The V-twin street bike looks virtually unchanged.....but the little Grom unit looks cool. I can't see their crotch rocket going up against the RC3 with only a 17hp 200 though. Again, I'm glad they're playing, but it appears they need to step up their game a bit.
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02-02-2017, 12:05 PM | #39 | |
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I would love to get one of these clown-bike (calling it that in Blackbike's honor) Grom-like bikes, but not sure how it will really fit in overall other than costing me money. I do believe that their version will out Grom the Grom and Kawasaki with their larger, vertical thumper and 5 speeds. Their X-pect endure was not the model I would have picked considering they have a few to pick from (look at Mexico's Lifan site where they have 2 different endures as but one example, not to mention their headquarter site in China), and I really believe they should have offered a rack, but if one can bolt on an optional top case, I would be happy. Which leads me to say that I would be happy to buy both of these bikes for a good price, and I will live happily ever after until retirement when I can purchase something really overpriced and overdone!
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02-02-2017, 02:51 PM | #40 |
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love lifan, have the 167ffm Lifan counterbal engine. the best part of the bike. just not sure , as you have mentioned, as of why they didn't carry this 229 mill over to their new fuel injected products line???
that 196cc fi produces 14hp. mine (229) gets about the same hp but not as fuel efficient as is stated for the 196cc. also, the 196cc is overhead cam am thinking (as they actually state) they want to stay in the beginners market and dont want to directly compete with the hondas etc of the world.
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04-24-2017, 10:31 PM | #41 |
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The 2017 EPA/DOT approved bikes' list was just updated this month, and it looks like American Lifan has a third bike approved now--he KP Mini 150. It will be a game changer in the mini motorcycle class with its 5-speed tranny and 150cc vertical (vs. horizontal) engine.
The other two (actually 3) bikes are the KP 200 standard, the KPR 200 sports bike, and one not even shown on their site--the S Ray 150cc scooter.
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04-24-2017, 11:53 PM | #42 |
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Images of S Ray 50 . . appears to offer an outboard foot position.
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04-26-2017, 01:55 AM | #43 |
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I called American Lifan today,and the gentleman who answered could not give me any precise dates for any of their bikes. He did assure me that the S Ray scooter had not been added to their updated site, yet, and not dropped.
When I asked about Arizona or California dealers (Yuma is literally half way between Phoenix and San Diego so I could shop either city; NO ONE would be considering a dealership here in Yuma, so I didn't even ask), I got an interesting, and for some, disappointing, answer--there were no firm dealers in Phoenix, or anywhere in Arizona. As far as California goes, they are not CARB certified, nor plan to be anytime soon!
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