Go Back   ChinaRiders Forums > Technical/Performance > Dual Sport/Enduro
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 07-21-2014, 01:03 AM   #16
tankme   tankme is offline
 
tankme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by Weldangrind View Post
Also, your header has the dreaded catalytic converter in it, and you could scribe a reference line across the length, cut it open, gut it and weld it back up. You'd need to remove all of the rust first.
Is the red line where I should halve it?

Is there a preferred way to cut it? I can hacksaw it to lose the least amount of kerf, or chop saw it if it doesn't matter. I've never gutted a cc this small and it should prove interesting. I'll even post pics!

Thanks for the direction!
Jim
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Cat cut line.jpg (31.3 KB, 575 views)
__________________
2008 Zongshen 200GY-A, HS163FML : Needs: Battery, Battery Box, Both clutch and brake handles, exhaust system, all plastics, gas cap, starter rewired. Her name will be Phoenix.

2007 Shineray Speedee 150, 1P57QMJ: Needs: starter rewired, exhaust connected, cleaned up, ignition switch simplified, new seat and lights, new front and back racks.

There's no such thing as a free puppy or motorcycle. I think I have caught the fever from y'all.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2014, 02:03 AM   #17
Weldangrind   Weldangrind is offline
 
Weldangrind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sardis, BC, Canada
Posts: 25,977
I'd use a super thin cut-off disc in a 4-1/2" angle grinder and not worry about kerf loss. If you're skilled with a grinder, you could give it a lobotomy and cut the entire top half off, gut it and weld it up again. That would maintain your input and output pipe relationship, so you don't affect how it bolts up to the engine or the midpipe.

I don't think you could remove the honeycomb if you chopped the cat in half. If you cut it just before the transition on either side, I think you'd capture it. Make sense?
__________________
Weldangrind

"I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2014, 02:04 AM   #18
Weldangrind   Weldangrind is offline
 
Weldangrind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sardis, BC, Canada
Posts: 25,977
As I think about it more, if you cut the rear half off, gutted it and welded it back up, nobody would see the surgery scars.
__________________
Weldangrind

"I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2014, 11:22 AM   #19
recracer   recracer is offline
 
recracer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Charles Town W.V.
Posts: 849
Just For FYI I think mine was empty from the factory . I check before I cut it ,a wire coat hanger . Maybe you will be lucky


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2014, 11:42 AM   #20
tankme   tankme is offline
 
tankme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 144
recracer: Ok I will check to see, thanks, good point.

Weldandgrind: Hmm, I might be confused about orientation. I've lined up the pic again. Do you mean the black, or green lines? Heh Do you mean either the black or green lines?

Thanks! I'll be coming back to this as I'm elbow deep in the rear end and discovering more exciting things to fix. A post about Sprocket bolts coming up...

See you soon!
Jim
Attached Images
File Type: jpg cat cut options.jpg (38.7 KB, 517 views)
__________________
2008 Zongshen 200GY-A, HS163FML : Needs: Battery, Battery Box, Both clutch and brake handles, exhaust system, all plastics, gas cap, starter rewired. Her name will be Phoenix.

2007 Shineray Speedee 150, 1P57QMJ: Needs: starter rewired, exhaust connected, cleaned up, ignition switch simplified, new seat and lights, new front and back racks.

There's no such thing as a free puppy or motorcycle. I think I have caught the fever from y'all.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2014, 09:35 PM   #21
Weldangrind   Weldangrind is offline
 
Weldangrind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sardis, BC, Canada
Posts: 25,977
I didn't explain myself well. I meant that you could cut the top off and leave the rest of the pipe intact. Hopefully the red lines give you an idea of what I mean.

Name:  Cat Surgery.jpg
Views: 775
Size:  58.8 KB
__________________
Weldangrind

"I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2014, 11:19 PM   #22
tankme   tankme is offline
 
tankme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 144
Oh like a little access hatch. Roger that. Am all I'm expecting to see is honeycomb? Seems easy enough. Then the midpipe is the next part to start fabricating. I'll post pics of the task unfolding if I can remember.

I still haven't hangered it yet though, I've been un-taping all the hand taped parts of the harness looking for breaks or my chopped starter wire.

And I think I have discovered this bike was probably jumped off of something and the frame was broken and re-welded. I uncovered some welding wires poking out of a weld down in one of the frame joints and some welds on top of welds on the opposing joint. If I find cracks I'll need to attempt to patch them before I get all put back together. That's another topic again once I get that area of the bike clean enough to tell. Plus the swing arm makes contact with one of the passenger peg frames (which I'll prolly cut off anyway.)

Well there it is, I will gut/weld the cc and then ask questions about a mid-pipe and a PM about a muffler.

I'll be back!
Jim
__________________
2008 Zongshen 200GY-A, HS163FML : Needs: Battery, Battery Box, Both clutch and brake handles, exhaust system, all plastics, gas cap, starter rewired. Her name will be Phoenix.

2007 Shineray Speedee 150, 1P57QMJ: Needs: starter rewired, exhaust connected, cleaned up, ignition switch simplified, new seat and lights, new front and back racks.

There's no such thing as a free puppy or motorcycle. I think I have caught the fever from y'all.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2014, 11:51 PM   #23
SpudRider   SpudRider is offline
 
SpudRider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Idaho
Posts: 25,054
Quote:
Originally Posted by tankme View Post
...I'll be back!

Jim


__________________
Spud

"Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain

2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3)
2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200)
2005 Honda XR650L
2004 Honda CRF250X
1998 Kawasaki KDX220

Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2014, 11:59 PM   #24
tankme   tankme is offline
 
tankme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 144
Heh



(at time of post I'm not sure how to make the video show up in the post. fixing)
__________________
2008 Zongshen 200GY-A, HS163FML : Needs: Battery, Battery Box, Both clutch and brake handles, exhaust system, all plastics, gas cap, starter rewired. Her name will be Phoenix.

2007 Shineray Speedee 150, 1P57QMJ: Needs: starter rewired, exhaust connected, cleaned up, ignition switch simplified, new seat and lights, new front and back racks.

There's no such thing as a free puppy or motorcycle. I think I have caught the fever from y'all.



Last edited by tankme; 07-22-2014 at 12:05 AM. Reason: video link reposting
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2014, 12:17 AM   #25
SpudRider   SpudRider is offline
 
SpudRider's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Idaho
Posts: 25,054
I fixed it for you, Jim.
__________________
Spud

"Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain

2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3)
2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200)
2005 Honda XR650L
2004 Honda CRF250X
1998 Kawasaki KDX220

Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2014, 12:55 AM   #26
tankme   tankme is offline
 
tankme's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Texas Hill Country
Posts: 144
Thumbs Up

Woot Thanks!
Jim
__________________
2008 Zongshen 200GY-A, HS163FML : Needs: Battery, Battery Box, Both clutch and brake handles, exhaust system, all plastics, gas cap, starter rewired. Her name will be Phoenix.

2007 Shineray Speedee 150, 1P57QMJ: Needs: starter rewired, exhaust connected, cleaned up, ignition switch simplified, new seat and lights, new front and back racks.

There's no such thing as a free puppy or motorcycle. I think I have caught the fever from y'all.


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2014, 01:33 AM   #27
Weldangrind   Weldangrind is offline
 
Weldangrind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sardis, BC, Canada
Posts: 25,977
Quote:
Originally Posted by tankme View Post
Oh like a little access hatch.
More like a lobotomy. I would cut a little more than the top half off, so you can easily extract the offending honeycomb. It would still hold together well enough for you to stitch it back together, and you wouldn't mess with the heat shield fasteners.
__________________
Weldangrind

"I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer


 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-22-2014, 01:45 AM   #28
Weldangrind   Weldangrind is offline
 
Weldangrind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Sardis, BC, Canada
Posts: 25,977
As a point of trivia, check out the honeycomb catalyst that was hiding in a China scooter muffler: http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...ghlight=pastor
__________________
Weldangrind

"I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer


 
Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
exhaust, hs163fml



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:22 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.