05-05-2014, 08:01 AM | #16 |
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oh and just an fyi I just shot my side oanels with matte black krylon fusion spray paint... has held up ok so far...
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05-05-2014, 04:07 PM | #17 | |
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It definitely reads Kilometers. I just kind of didn't think too hard about it right at first since the speedo reads mph. There is no way I have put 130 miles on it yet! Soon though...
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What bike is that? It looks like we have the same plastics, just a few different parts! |
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05-05-2014, 04:40 PM | #18 | |
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It is a counter balance you see up there How many miles do you have on your faithful x-moto steed? |
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05-05-2014, 07:01 PM | #19 | |
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http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=13658 My Zong's odometer records miles. Therefore, I change the engine oil every time the odometer reaches another 1,000 miles (620 kms). I use Mobil, Delvac, 15W/40 motor oil in all my motorcycles.
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05-05-2014, 09:14 PM | #20 |
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I was just speaking with the owner of Excalibur Motorsports who just sold me a new TMEC (it has arrived and is patiently waiting for me to take a day of leave tomorrow to assemble it). He suggested I use 'wet clutch' oil, which I assume would be good for all Chinese bikes? I know I had been using 1 liter of 15w40 every month (approx. 600 miles or 1000kms of commuting@150 miles/week as Spud suggested) since the TMEC specifies 1 liter. However, this is the first time I had heard someone suggest wet clutch vs. standard 4 stroke?
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05-05-2014, 09:28 PM | #21 |
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Riddle me this...
Your thread about turning past 60k was part of why I decided to go for a china bike! Very inspiring.
15w40 seems to be pretty popular here and a few other places, so that is what I was planning on picking up and putting in on wednesday. If you're running it, and you have a bike that has run that long I will trust your word on it! I did indeed get a manual, and it recommends the first change at 500km, but I will likely be doing it on wednesday, when I will only be around 250 ish, to get that 15w40 in there. The level is also BARELY above the low mark right now, and looks pretty dirty already. So... Riddle me this. You can see in the second closer picture here that that hose has a kink in it. It is the hose that comes over from the airbox on the left, I am presuming to be mixed with fuel and sent to the top end? It seemed to me that it should not be kinked, so I managed to get it to unkink and take it for a test drive. It would not sit and idle without dying, and it almost felt like I was out of gas when I was trying to drive, really jerky, delayed throttle responses. I notice that it runs better with it kinked how it is in that picture, and that when I pinch it completely rather than cutting out like when it has a clear passage it actually idles higher. Am I missing something here, should this be kinked like that? Or is something adjusted improperly? Also out of curiousity, how much top end noise, and what kind of noise, is normal from these brand new pushrods? I hear a ticking particularly on acceleration that seems to go away, when I am not throttling and am up to speed. At first I kind of thought it was rattley plastics, but that does not appear to be the case. It does not sound horrible, just more sewing machiney than I am used to with a definite tick type of sound, so just curious what your guys' thoughts are on that. |
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05-06-2014, 12:14 AM | #22 |
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I'm interested to know where the unkinked hose is connected. If that hose goes to your gas tank, I'm guessing the entire assembly is designed to vent gas fumes into the air box. If so, I would seal both ends, and eliminate the hoses completely.
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05-06-2014, 12:16 AM | #23 | |
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05-06-2014, 12:22 AM | #24 | |
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Whenever the oil level drops, add more oil, even if you recently changed the oil. If you change the oil at 250 kms, you can probably wait until 1,000 kms for the next oil change. After that, change the motor oil every time the odometer reaches a multiple of 1,000 kms.
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05-06-2014, 01:32 AM | #25 | |
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I can get pictures when it is light out again on the morrow if necessary. I am thinking that you are right that this is a uncombusted fuel recycling system, which makes me feel less silly about having no idea what the hell was going on, as I have heard about, but never seen a system like this. I will clamp it shut with a binder clip or something on my way home and see how she runs. If it is recycling fuel back into the air filter in the case of incomplete combustion I presume that this is to help out with emissions? |
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05-06-2014, 01:33 AM | #26 |
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Oh and any comment about how much and what type of top end noise is normal on these little guys when they are new spud?
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05-06-2014, 01:42 AM | #27 | |
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05-06-2014, 01:50 AM | #28 | |
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http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=977 http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=4539 If the valves are loose, they will make a little more noise. Tight valves are quiet, but they remain open too long, and will get damaged by excess heat. Properly adjusted valves make a ticking noise, which is a good sign. Always remember the old aphorism, "slappy valves are happy valves."
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05-06-2014, 02:11 AM | #29 | |
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If you do that, you'll need to increase the slow and main jets to compensate.
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05-06-2014, 10:46 AM | #30 | |
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I can say this though.....with that particular Hondanoid motor, there's the 'standard fare' of mods everyone here can agree on: 1- Uni (or K&N) filter. Dump the useless massive air box 2- Move the slide needle to the highest position out of the main jet. 3- Re-jet. I forget the exact ones at the moment. They're recorded here somewhere. 4- Adjust the valves, ice cold. I've had three of these motors over time and all three had valves that were too tight right out of the box. 5- FMF Turbine Core 2. It's a bit of work to mount one on these but some have had a better time than others. Mine took a pipe bender and a torch for the mid-pipe. That old thread is buried here somewhere also. These mods REALLY wake up that motor. Also, as mentioned, change oil frequently. It's only a quart. Cheap insurance. EDIT: Found my old thread. http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=9091
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