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11-15-2022, 03:46 AM | #17 |
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One thing I am fuzzy on with either bike is if they have U.S. Forest Service spark approved arrestors. Some riding will be on farmland so spark arrestors are a must. What's the scoop on that?
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11-15-2022, 07:28 AM | #18 | |
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the Fuel Tank is definitely different than the Suzuki, but the frame is a KTM knock off, so might be able to use an aftermarket KTM tank
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I ordered a set of 07-09 RMZ 250 graphics from Kalair-gfx. I got their thinnest option so I could make sure they would match the Templar X plastic. And it does. About to order a custom set of the thick ones for my Templar X. That still doesn’t mean the Suzuki plastics will fit the Templar X. If I had to bet on it. I would say that they would. The bolt holes are in the same place. Looks like the Templar X gas tank was molded to fit the Suzuki plastic. But again. I haven’t actually tried to fit any OEM Suzuki plastic to the Templar X yet. I hope this helps. I will certainly update this thread if I learn more.
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11-16-2022, 03:57 AM | #20 |
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Very promising point on the graphics lining up. Thanks for chiming in with that bit of info.
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11-16-2022, 09:15 AM | #21 | |
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But you know, these bikes do have a catalytic converter in the headpipe region. I think that would provide pretty effective spark arrestor function. If that's true, then you could remove the cannister and stamp "spark arrestor" on the tip |
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11-16-2022, 04:06 PM | #22 |
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The stock exhausts on the Hawk-like bikes all have a spark arrestor end baffle built in. Not sure about the Templar.
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11-16-2022, 04:48 PM | #23 |
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I should have also asked if there a stamp on the outside of the muffler indicating a US Forest Service Approved Spark Arrestor, some of the Off Road Vehicle parks in my area require that. One park has a big sign at the entrance that lists off the requirements to ride and penalties for breaking the rules. It would be pretty tough to say you didn't know it was required. If no stamp I would probably need to investigate an aftermarket pipe for either bike or an insert like Thumper suggested. I'd need something where I can show proof it is legit. That's said the Hawk looks very much like a factory dual-sport so it wouldn't draw the same attention as someone on a beat to crap YZ125.
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12-15-2022, 07:10 PM | #24 |
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Here is what I wonder about the Templar. The company name is Zuumav? That sounds Russian to me. I mean, I am not an expert but that sounds Russian. So if that is true and the bikes were labeled and marketed for the Russian rider, does their sudden arrival in the states with features almost too good to be true have anything to do with the war? The parts issue is what scared me off I think. Not the engine parts, but other things. And to be honest at the end of the day, what I know about the war and that name Zuumav makes me wary. Eh well, just some food for thought. Correct me if I am mistaken about my thinking here.
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12-15-2022, 09:53 PM | #25 |
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12-15-2022, 10:24 PM | #26 |
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https://zuumav.en.alibaba.com/compan...145f7de0tzcOJ6
Okay well that clearly shows their main market for them and that is interesting. They have some really nice looking machines but the company is only 5 years old. How can we be sure it wasn't founded by Reptilians? |
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12-16-2022, 12:47 PM | #27 |
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What's a reptilian? Chinese have been cloning technology since the 60s, or before. Patent thief? Is that a reptilian?
Wuyi Zuma is one. Kamax is another. I am looking into ordering a Kamax 250 2 stroke or 450 4 stroke. They use the same suspension and brakes used on GPX bikes. KTM clones. But like other Chinese companies, they are learning things on their own and growing. The quality of the engineering is good now. No, not exotic alloys and high end QC parts like you find on Husqvarna or the other top competitors, but those brands are for racing/competition. |
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12-31-2022, 09:12 PM | #29 | |
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Also just got a Halcyon Green Classic 350 for my dad.
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05-06-2023, 01:04 AM | #30 |
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Mission accomplished but with a different bike. I came close to pulling the trigger on a Hawk but found a 97 DR350S for about the price of a carb'd Hawk that was in good shape. It has a good slow putt-putt speed so I can tag along with my little nephew on his XR100 and has been good for my other older nephew that is learning to ride. It's also a bike that puts a smile on my face, it's easy to ride and has some pep.
Although the Templar X would be the most fun bike for me I chickened out with the newness of the bike and would have gone with the Hawk. There is value in the Hawk for me with easy access to aftermarket parts and every nut and bolt is known on that bike. For me the point is to be out riding however regardless of bike there is a maintenance/tinker factor. I've been keeping track of maintenance on the DR versus my thoughts on a new Hawk. I think overall the DR has probably netted out to less work. On the DR I've check valves, swapped batteries, changed tires, shimmed the carb and have fluids to change. On the Hawk I would have had assembly, valves, carb and fluids. Also I was able to see and ride the DR before the purchase where as the Hawk has the damage during shipping hassle factor that may occur. Still may end up with a Hawk though, the older nephew has a younger brother that likes the idea of riding. We'll see where that goes, glad to see the price of Hawks have dropped a bit. Maybe I can stumble onto a cheap used Hawk. |
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