Icebear 110 carb issues - Page 2

Adjuster · 04-09-2017, 10:18 PM

Do you have the plastic spacer/isolator that goes between the carb and manifold pipe?

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Adjuster · 04-09-2017, 10:21 PM

Should look similar to this.

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1cJlUL...-Dirt-bike.jpg

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miket007 · 04-09-2017, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Adjuster

Should look similar to this.

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1cJlUL...-Dirt-bike.jpg

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No. Nothing but the oring. I just bought this hoping it would help.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Adjuster · 04-09-2017, 11:45 PM

That should be it as long is it is the correct opening size. The spacer with o ring goes o ring side to manifold pipe. So it will be carb with o ring to flat side of plastic spacer, o ring side of plastic spacer to manifold pipe and then manifold pipe and paper gasket to the intake port. Be very careful with the bolts holding the manifold pipe to the engine, very soft metal, ask me how I know. LOL If by some chance you do strip out these bolts all you need to do is go to your local ACE Hardware or any quality hardware store and get the same size bolts a quarter inch longer.

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miket007 · 04-10-2017, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Adjuster

That should be it as long is it is the correct opening size. The spacer with o ring goes o ring side to manifold pipe. So it will be carb with o ring to flat side of plastic spacer, o ring side of plastic spacer to manifold pipe and then manifold pipe and paper gasket to the intake port. Be very careful with the bolts holding the manifold pipe to the engine, very soft metal, ask me how I know. LOL If by some chance you do strip out these bolts all you need to do is go to your local ACE Hardware or any quality hardware store and get the same size bolts a quarter inch longer.

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Thanks for that info. I put two and two together and came to the same conclusion. Copy on torquing the bolts....seems like most metal on this is pretty soft.

All in all it seems to run strong just needs a little tlc. I need to find a new seat and tires. Was thinking of getting a slightly wider tire but not sure what all is out there to fit it.

dirtbkr188 · 04-10-2017, 04:57 PM

Are you running the engine without an air filter? Are you sure the fuel tank is not binding the throttle cable up when you reinstall it? The beveled edge of the throttle slide is towards the rear of the carb? You have enough slack in the throttle cable to allow the slide to drop all the way down the carb throat?

miket007 · 04-10-2017, 06:55 PM

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Are you running the engine without an air filter?

No.

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Originally Posted by dirtbkr188

Are you sure the fuel tank is not binding the throttle cable up when you reinstall it?

Yes.

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Originally Posted by dirtbkr188

The beveled edge of the throttle slide is towards the rear of the carb? You have enough slack in the throttle cable to allow the slide to drop all the way down the carb throat?

I took pictures.

miket007 · 04-10-2017, 08:11 PM

It appears the slide can drop down/close farther but there doesn't seem to be enough slack even with the thumb throttle disconnected. This is a new carb the PO put on and maybe the depth of the sleeve bore is slightly longer. I modified the carb end of the cable enough to get it to set down to what I believe is closed. Now once i get the spacer I can put everything back together.

dirtbkr188 · 04-10-2017, 09:36 PM

The slide does look as though it could go down further in the throat, is there a cable adjuster under the boot on the carb cap? You only need maybe another 1/4-3/8" of inner cable for it to close. If the PO changed the carb, that may also be a part of your problem; the carb that usually comes on this size quad is the PZ19-style carb, which uses a choke cable instead of a manual choke. Here is the link to a typical PZ19 carb.

https://www.buyatvsonline.com/carbur...ke-p-9511.html

miket007 · 04-10-2017, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtbkr188

The slide does look as though it could go down further in the throat, is there a cable adjuster under the boot on the carb cap? You only need maybe another 1/4-3/8" of inner cable for it to close. If the PO changed the carb, that may also be a part of your problem; the carb that usually comes on this size quad is the PZ19-style carb, which uses a choke cable instead of a manual choke. Here is the link to a typical PZ19 carb.

https://www.buyatvsonline.com/carbur...ke-p-9511.html

Thanks. I will play with it a little tonight. The carb is marked as a product from Japan.

miket007 · 04-10-2017, 10:10 PM

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Thanks. I will play with it a little tonight. The carb is marked as a product from Japan.

Trimmed off a little more...all fixed. I also found that without the intake spacer, the bowl hits the bottom of the intake tube where it attaches to the cyl head and wasn't sitting flush against the intake tube when bolted...hence the leak.

dirtbkr188 · 04-10-2017, 11:07 PM

Good, glad to hear that you were able to get it squared away

FLASHLIGHTBOY · 04-11-2017, 01:29 AM

YES I have found that before the bottom of the carb bowl hits the intake pipe not letting it seat to the intake pipe... usually the carb drain line outlet hits ... have to watch the clearance on this... I guess you did not notice that before ... as I think you did not mention NO SPACER AS WELL... you need the spacer..

FLASHLIGHTBOY · 04-11-2017, 01:32 AM

I can see now on your pics that the spacer was not installed...... overlooked that pic closely..

miket007 · 04-12-2017, 10:08 PM

I would like to report she is all fixed and running well. Off to find a new seat for this thing.....thanks to everyone that helped out....much appreciated.

04-11-2017, 01:29 AM	#28
FLASHLIGHTBOY Join Date: May 2009 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,161	Carb YES I have found that before the bottom of the carb bowl hits the intake pipe not letting it seat to the intake pipe... usually the carb drain line outlet hits ... have to watch the clearance on this... I guess you did not notice that before ... as I think you did not mention NO SPACER AS WELL... you need the spacer.. __________________ DEALER FOR ZSTAR & GIO PRODUCTS, TAOTAO ABIBABA ATV ETC
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FLASHLIGHTBOY Join Date: May 2009 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,161	spacer I can see now on your pics that the spacer was not installed...... overlooked that pic closely.. __________________ DEALER FOR ZSTAR & GIO PRODUCTS, TAOTAO ABIBABA ATV ETC
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04-09-2017, 10:18 PM	#16
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	Do you have the plastic spacer/isolator that goes between the carb and manifold pipe? /
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04-09-2017, 10:21 PM	#17
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	Should look similar to this. https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1cJlUL...-Dirt-bike.jpg /
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04-09-2017, 11:45 PM	#19
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	That should be it as long is it is the correct opening size. The spacer with o ring goes o ring side to manifold pipe. So it will be carb with o ring to flat side of plastic spacer, o ring side of plastic spacer to manifold pipe and then manifold pipe and paper gasket to the intake port. Be very careful with the bolts holding the manifold pipe to the engine, very soft metal, ask me how I know. LOL If by some chance you do strip out these bolts all you need to do is go to your local ACE Hardware or any quality hardware store and get the same size bolts a quarter inch longer. /
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04-10-2017, 04:57 PM	#21
dirtbkr188 Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 574	Are you running the engine without an air filter? Are you sure the fuel tank is not binding the throttle cable up when you reinstall it? The beveled edge of the throttle slide is towards the rear of the carb? You have enough slack in the throttle cable to allow the slide to drop all the way down the carb throat?
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04-10-2017, 08:11 PM	#23
miket007 Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 16	It appears the slide can drop down/close farther but there doesn't seem to be enough slack even with the thumb throttle disconnected. This is a new carb the PO put on and maybe the depth of the sleeve bore is slightly longer. I modified the carb end of the cable enough to get it to set down to what I believe is closed. Now once i get the spacer I can put everything back together.
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04-10-2017, 09:36 PM	#24
dirtbkr188 Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 574	The slide does look as though it could go down further in the throat, is there a cable adjuster under the boot on the carb cap? You only need maybe another 1/4-3/8" of inner cable for it to close. If the PO changed the carb, that may also be a part of your problem; the carb that usually comes on this size quad is the PZ19-style carb, which uses a choke cable instead of a manual choke. Here is the link to a typical PZ19 carb. https://www.buyatvsonline.com/carbur...ke-p-9511.html
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04-10-2017, 11:07 PM	#27
dirtbkr188 Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 574	Good, glad to hear that you were able to get it squared away
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04-12-2017, 10:08 PM	#30
miket007 Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Phoenix AZ Posts: 16	I would like to report she is all fixed and running well. Off to find a new seat for this thing.....thanks to everyone that helped out....much appreciated.
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