Kayo S200 carb upgrade recommendations

skepticus · 12-28-2023, 04:58 PM

Hello Ladys and Gents,

I'm looking for a recommendation for a carb upgrade for a Kayo S200. It has a PZ30. I'm eyeing the NIBBI PE30.

Looking for recommendations the carb upgrade and a market place to source parts.

The stock carb is pretty much crap. Ran for 2 hours then went rich and bogs out. So something adjustable/tunable and rebuildable would be awesome!

Thanks!

**JerryHawk250** · 12-28-2023, 05:07 PM

If going with the Nibbi, you will need to go with the PE28. The PE28 is a smooth bore so it will flow about the same as the PZ30.

skepticus · 12-28-2023, 07:57 PM

Thanks for the info. Pls excuse my ignorance but I just assumed the number was in reference to the mm size.

XLsior · 12-28-2023, 08:38 PM

The PZ30 is a tapered bore with a choke plate so it basically its a restricted intake velocity.

The Nibbi being a smooth bore has less restriction which means greater air volume potential at a reduced velocity..

the issue being 200cc is not enough suck to make use of the PE30 smoothbore resulting in velocity drop and poor A/F tune.

the PE28 is still 'bigger' than the PZ30... even if the nominal exit hole diameter suggests otherwise.

at 300cc/20hp the PE30 starts to make sense.

skepticus · 12-29-2023, 10:53 AM

looking at 2 options now. any last minute suggestions/recommendations before i pull the trigger on one of these. pictures of the old carb and sxs below. actuall a "B PZ30". Thanks again!

https://www.amazon.com/JFG-RACING-Ca...1zcF9hdGY&th=1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CBJB34FX...hlbWF0aWM&th=1

https://ibb.co/x5rSFsh
https://ibb.co/VCkfhYS
https://ibb.co/xM628MX
https://ibb.co/hyTRwSd
https://ibb.co/F6MZpvX
https://ibb.co/m0zdk0h

**JerryHawk250** · 12-29-2023, 11:27 AM

I would go with the Nibbi PE28FL. It will perform better than the PZ30. https://amzn.to/3RIMvEU

XLsior · 12-29-2023, 06:00 PM

Aliexpress Nibbi official store...

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...06788.html?spm

skepticus · 01-19-2024, 03:42 PM

Holding off any upgrades until it gets a new factory carb. Turned it back into the shop since it's still under warranty. Maybe there'll be more info out about which carb upgrade is best in a few months.

thumpthump · 05-20-2024, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skepticus

Holding off any upgrades until it gets a new factory carb. Turned it back into the shop since it's still under warranty. Maybe there'll be more info out about which carb upgrade is best in a few months.

Hey there, do you have any updates on your Kayo S-200, and getting an upgraded carb for it?

I've got a family friend with one, and it's fun for his kids, but like most engines these days, it runs very lean, with all the issues that come along with that.

Thanks!

12-28-2023, 04:58 PM	#1
skepticus Join Date: Dec 2023 Posts: 4	Kayo S200 carb upgrade recommendations Hello Ladys and Gents, I'm looking for a recommendation for a carb upgrade for a Kayo S200. It has a PZ30. I'm eyeing the NIBBI PE30. Looking for recommendations the carb upgrade and a market place to source parts. The stock carb is pretty much crap. Ran for 2 hours then went rich and bogs out. So something adjustable/tunable and rebuildable would be awesome! Thanks!
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12-28-2023, 05:07 PM	#2
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,737	If going with the Nibbi, you will need to go with the PE28. The PE28 is a smooth bore so it will flow about the same as the PZ30. __________________ 2024 Linhai 300 ATV 4x4 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S (Sold) 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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12-29-2023, 11:27 AM	#6
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,737	I would go with the Nibbi PE28FL. It will perform better than the PZ30. https://amzn.to/3RIMvEU __________________ 2024 Linhai 300 ATV 4x4 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S (Sold) 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel Last edited by JerryHawk250; 01-19-2024 at 04:21 PM.
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12-28-2023, 07:57 PM	#3
skepticus Join Date: Dec 2023 Posts: 4	Thanks for the info. Pls excuse my ignorance but I just assumed the number was in reference to the mm size.
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12-28-2023, 08:38 PM	#4
XLsior Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Australia Posts: 1,455	The PZ30 is a tapered bore with a choke plate so it basically its a restricted intake velocity. The Nibbi being a smooth bore has less restriction which means greater air volume potential at a reduced velocity.. the issue being 200cc is not enough suck to make use of the PE30 smoothbore resulting in velocity drop and poor A/F tune. the PE28 is still 'bigger' than the PZ30... even if the nominal exit hole diameter suggests otherwise. at 300cc/20hp the PE30 starts to make sense.
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12-29-2023, 10:53 AM	#5
skepticus Join Date: Dec 2023 Posts: 4	looking at 2 options now. any last minute suggestions/recommendations before i pull the trigger on one of these. pictures of the old carb and sxs below. actuall a "B PZ30". Thanks again! https://www.amazon.com/JFG-RACING-Ca...1zcF9hdGY&th=1 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CBJB34FX...hlbWF0aWM&th=1 https://ibb.co/x5rSFsh https://ibb.co/VCkfhYS https://ibb.co/xM628MX https://ibb.co/hyTRwSd https://ibb.co/F6MZpvX https://ibb.co/m0zdk0h
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12-29-2023, 06:00 PM	#7
XLsior Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Australia Posts: 1,455	Aliexpress Nibbi official store... https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...06788.html?spm
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01-19-2024, 03:42 PM	#8
skepticus Join Date: Dec 2023 Posts: 4	Holding off any upgrades until it gets a new factory carb. Turned it back into the shop since it's still under warranty. Maybe there'll be more info out about which carb upgrade is best in a few months.
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