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07-07-2022, 12:19 PM | #1 |
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Alright Its Decision time! Why do I make this so Hard.
Alright Fellers,
Ducks are all lined up ready to buy my next Dual Sport! While Jerry's KPX is a VERY nice, in fact probably the best Chinese dual sport I've seen. It doesn't really need any tinkering. Why would I want a bike I have to work on? Isn't that half the fun? Besides I have a brand new Exhaust in my shed still in the box that I never put on my last Brozz. I also have various other crap like jets, rebuild kits, etc. So, WHAT to do is the question? The Brozz Recon from Peace Sports is everything I wish my previous Brozz was. Then there is the Storm, Razzer, Hawk, TBR7, etc. SMH!
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07-07-2022, 01:11 PM | #2 |
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The Brozz Recon would be my choice because it does have the USD forks, counter balanced engine and heavy duty swing arm. I know what you mean about tinkering. The KPX kind of took the fun stuff out of getting a new China bike.
But out the box, The KPX is probably one of the most complete and ready to go. Put gas, oil and go. The 20hp 250cc engine with 6 speed transmission and EFI is a game changer for sure. I'm very happy with it even though I have to be a little bored.
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07-07-2022, 01:28 PM | #3 |
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Yeah,
I'm really having to talk myself out of the KPX, but keep going back to it. LOL. I like the idea of a Carb, but damn is F.I. nice. I'm gonna give it a day and ponder the conundrum I've gotten myself into.
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07-07-2022, 01:33 PM | #4 |
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Xpro Titan DLX, feels faster than a modified Brozz (see sig), more capable off-road and cheaper but love the Brozz as well, more comfortable of a ride and rock-solid
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07-07-2022, 01:42 PM | #5 |
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Just got an email back from Don @ APMC
"The 2022 Bashan Razzer DB-49 250 Enduro does not have the countered balanced engine, nor does it have inverted shocks or alarm/remote start. It is more of a basic model and the newest model but not like the storm/brozz." But Still, for 1500 buck and given the price of China Bikes nowdays, it would be a good entry level, bike that you could work with.
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07-07-2022, 01:43 PM | #6 |
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First-world problems are the best problems.....
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07-07-2022, 02:06 PM | #7 |
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And those beautiful aluminum rims on the KPX. Confused yet?
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07-07-2022, 02:18 PM | #8 |
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Just a little. I've Narrowed it down. Its either the Brozz Recon or the KPX.
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07-07-2022, 02:25 PM | #9 |
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For roughly $800 more the KPX has a lot to offer. The overhead cam engine with efi would sell it for me. I was disappointed to see that the new Brozz didn’t come with an overhead cam, I like the Brozz too I think it’s a good machine but the KPX is just quite a bit better I think. It’s easy to spend someone else’s money
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07-07-2022, 03:17 PM | #10 |
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I want to spend letsride's money and buy a KPX!
...dang....I can't....bummer..... I recommend letsride buy a KPX!!
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07-07-2022, 03:25 PM | #11 |
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That's what I recommended but no, he ain't listening.
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07-07-2022, 03:29 PM | #12 |
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I am sure one can find things to tinker with on the KPX. There is something to be said about a bike you can just ride though.
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07-07-2022, 03:38 PM | #13 |
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I liked the simple fact that I didn't have to do a single mod to do a quick ride on the interstate from exit to exit and ran 70+ mph comfortably. It took a good bit of mods on the Hawk to do that and wasn't comfortable at all.
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07-07-2022, 03:41 PM | #14 |
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I'm sure there are a few things in the Tusk product line that would work well on that bike!!! D-Flex Pro Hand Guards get my vote! I installed them on all three of our TT250's.
An Airhawk Dual Sport Seat Cushion would also be a nice comfort addition. Add a Ram phone mount, Battery Tender, a Battery Tender Female Cigarette Adapter Accessory Cable, and hit the road!!
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07-07-2022, 03:45 PM | #15 |
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Just so happens I've been looking at some lime green to match.
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