Flywheel too light to charge battery and run lights?

Le_Thon · 04-12-2014, 11:36 PM

I have a full light kit on my bike as well as electric start. I was perplexed for the longest time as to why my battery would not charge and the lights were always dim. I replaced all the components of the charging system to no avail.

It then came to me that my flywheel might be too light. I believe I have a YX 125cc engine. has anyone else had a similar problem? I would like to increase the weight of my flywheel but I do not know where to start.

Anyone have any suggestions?

humanbeing · 04-13-2014, 01:45 AM

There's 3 phase stator for commonest chinese bike. http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=3630414870. What's on ur bike?

Le_Thon · 04-14-2014, 12:12 AM

Sorry for the late reply. The one I have is at the link below. Or at least it looks identical.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IGNITION-STA...ce1b81&vxp=mtr

Le_Thon · 04-14-2014, 12:27 AM

After reviewing the stators, I am guessing mine does not have enough "poles" to generate the power required for the lights and the battery?

SpudRider · 04-14-2014, 01:13 AM

Do you own a dirt bike, or a dual sport bike? Did your bike have a headlight as stock equipment? The stator in the photograph is typical of one installed in a dirt bike which doesn't have a headlight.

Indeed, that type of stator doesn't have sufficient poles and wire windings to produce enough electricity to charge a battery and power a headlight.

humanbeing · 04-14-2014, 02:11 AM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/290910714927
ALL DC. Needs dc-cdi.

Le_Thon · 04-14-2014, 02:43 AM

The picture attached is how my bike came from the factory. It came with the light kit on there. It came with a regular dirt bike stator.

I wish I would have known this years ago! It kept me from riding it on the street and only on the trails :(

I see the direct fit link, but how do I purchase from TaoBao?

Also, thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Le_Thon · 04-14-2014, 02:50 AM

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180952163531

Do you guys think this stator would fit even though it is for a gy6?

I am very excited about this! I have been trying to figure this out for awhile and now I believe I have it solved thanks to your help.

I really do appreciate this.

humanbeing · 04-14-2014, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Le_Thon

http://www.ebay.com/itm/180952163531

Do you guys think this stator would fit even though it is for a gy6?

This type needs NEW flywheel cuz the magnetic line is different.
"ALL dc/ 2 coils" above is fastest way if the flywheel still in working order.

Le_Thon · 04-14-2014, 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by humanbeing

This type needs NEW flywheel cuz the magnetic line is different.
"ALL dc/ 2 coils" above is fastest way if the flywheel still in working order.

With the 2 coils, I do not think there would be enough power generated? I have a 2 coil stator now but the only difference between the two is that the one you suggested is a 4 wire and the one that I have is a 5 wire. I do not know much about electronics :( You can compare the wiring diagrams in the link below. Let me know.

http://www.hooperimports.com/showpages.asp?pid=1013

humanbeing · 04-14-2014, 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Le_Thon

With the 2 coils, I do not think there would be enough power generated? I have a 2 coil stator now but the only difference between the two is that the one you suggested is a 4 wire and the one that I have is a 5 wire. I do not know much about electronics :( You can compare the wiring diagrams in the link below. Let me know.

http://www.hooperimports.com/showpages.asp?pid=1013

(ALL DC / 2) is 120+ watt cuz BOTH coils generates power to rectifier.

Le_Thon · 04-24-2014, 05:04 PM

I am looking at the all DC and I am wondering how I hook it up to my 5 wire system. I am sorry for the late reply, I just got super busy!

From the wiring diagrams it looks like the blue/white cable is the same from the 4 to 5 wire system. The black/red cable does not exist in the 4 wire system. I am assuming the black cable is the ground. The only problem I see is that there are two yellow cables in the all DC 2 coil one. Are these two yellow cables the yellow and white cables seen in the 5 wire diagram?

Le_Thon · 04-24-2014, 06:27 PM

I actually had a crazy idea. I have two complete stators and I was thinking about combining the two larger coils that I have. Ill attach pictures of what I am thinking. Please let me know what you think.

The new stator has both the lights/charing running off the same large coil in picture 1. The little black coil just has the red/black wire that runs to the CDI.

In picture 3, I am thinking about having one of the coils charge the battery while the other coil runs the lights and is hooked up black/red cable that runs to the CDI. The only problem I see with this is that there might be too much power running to the CDI.

The following pictures -
1. New stator that I bought months ago to try and remedy the issue
2. Coil salvaged from other stator
3. What the new stator looks like (No wiring/soldering has been done yet)

04-12-2014, 11:36 PM	#1
Le_Thon Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 60	Flywheel too light to charge battery and run lights? I have a full light kit on my bike as well as electric start. I was perplexed for the longest time as to why my battery would not charge and the lights were always dim. I replaced all the components of the charging system to no avail. It then came to me that my flywheel might be too light. I believe I have a YX 125cc engine. has anyone else had a similar problem? I would like to increase the weight of my flywheel but I do not know where to start. Anyone have any suggestions?
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04-13-2014, 01:45 AM	#2
humanbeing Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,436	There's 3 phase stator for commonest chinese bike. http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=3630414870. What's on ur bike? __________________
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04-14-2014, 01:13 AM	#5
SpudRider Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Idaho Posts: 25,054	Do you own a dirt bike, or a dual sport bike? Did your bike have a headlight as stock equipment? The stator in the photograph is typical of one installed in a dirt bike which doesn't have a headlight. Indeed, that type of stator doesn't have sufficient poles and wire windings to produce enough electricity to charge a battery and power a headlight. __________________ Spud "Never argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level, and beat you with experience." Mark Twain 2015 Zongshen ZS250GY-3 (RX3) 2006 Zongshen ZS200GY-2 (Sierra 200) 2005 Honda XR650L 2004 Honda CRF250X 1998 Kawasaki KDX220 Mods made to my Zongshen ZS200GY-2: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=6894
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04-14-2014, 02:11 AM	#6
humanbeing Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,436	http://www.ebay.com/itm/290910714927 ALL DC. Needs dc-cdi. __________________ Last edited by humanbeing; 04-14-2014 at 03:23 AM.
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04-14-2014, 12:12 AM	#3
Le_Thon Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 60	Sorry for the late reply. The one I have is at the link below. Or at least it looks identical. http://www.ebay.com/itm/IGNITION-STA...ce1b81&vxp=mtr
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04-14-2014, 12:27 AM	#4
Le_Thon Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 60	After reviewing the stators, I am guessing mine does not have enough "poles" to generate the power required for the lights and the battery?
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04-14-2014, 02:43 AM	#7
Le_Thon Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 60	The picture attached is how my bike came from the factory. It came with the light kit on there. It came with a regular dirt bike stator. I wish I would have known this years ago! It kept me from riding it on the street and only on the trails :( I see the direct fit link, but how do I purchase from TaoBao? Also, thank you very much!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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04-14-2014, 02:50 AM	#8
Le_Thon Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 60	http://www.ebay.com/itm/180952163531 Do you guys think this stator would fit even though it is for a gy6? I am very excited about this! I have been trying to figure this out for awhile and now I believe I have it solved thanks to your help. I really do appreciate this.
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04-24-2014, 05:04 PM	#12
Le_Thon Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 60	I am looking at the all DC and I am wondering how I hook it up to my 5 wire system. I am sorry for the late reply, I just got super busy! From the wiring diagrams it looks like the blue/white cable is the same from the 4 to 5 wire system. The black/red cable does not exist in the 4 wire system. I am assuming the black cable is the ground. The only problem I see is that there are two yellow cables in the all DC 2 coil one. Are these two yellow cables the yellow and white cables seen in the 5 wire diagram?
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04-24-2014, 06:27 PM	#13
Le_Thon Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 60	I actually had a crazy idea. I have two complete stators and I was thinking about combining the two larger coils that I have. Ill attach pictures of what I am thinking. Please let me know what you think. The new stator has both the lights/charing running off the same large coil in picture 1. The little black coil just has the red/black wire that runs to the CDI. In picture 3, I am thinking about having one of the coils charge the battery while the other coil runs the lights and is hooked up black/red cable that runs to the CDI. The only problem I see with this is that there might be too much power running to the CDI. The following pictures - 1. New stator that I bought months ago to try and remedy the issue 2. Coil salvaged from other stator 3. What the new stator looks like (No wiring/soldering has been done yet)
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