01-23-2015, 08:38 PM | #76 |
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There is still engine braking, but you can't ease into it by revving the motor to match the wheel speed. I can live with that.
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01-23-2015, 09:38 PM | #77 |
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http://moboshi.en.alibaba.com/produc...rom_China.html it appears in this setup that the centrifugal clutch is mounted to the crankshaft and retains the normal clutch basket
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01-24-2015, 01:24 AM | #78 |
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Interesting. I wonder what the price is.
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01-24-2015, 05:22 PM | #79 |
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I will find out . I did get a nice sales girl ,Named June to speak to me on this site . She was being as helpful as she could . I am sure she never was Questioned about retro-fitting automatic clutch before . 2 concerns I have about this one . Case clearance and what happens to the oil that goes to the centrifugal filter .
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01-25-2015, 09:40 AM | #80 |
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picture from Dan's motorcycles repair
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01-25-2015, 01:44 PM | #81 |
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I watched a Youtube video on old Honda ATC centrifugal clutches as well, and they looked just the image you found at Dan's. I'm beginning to think that an old ATC engine is the best move. I could always combine the transmission with a CG230 motor.
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01-25-2015, 02:52 PM | #82 |
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01-25-2015, 11:38 PM | #83 |
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Seems a retro-fit makes no sense . I watched the you tube videos and see the manual clutch gets actuated by the shifter on a gear change . IE no help for your dad . We would still need our clutch lever or change to much , for it to be reasonable. Whole automatic engine seems a better way to go. That being said ,for the rest of us . We would still be able to revved clutch drops and roll to a stop without holding the clutch in .
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01-26-2015, 01:47 AM | #84 |
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I've ridden a Honda Big Red, and there was no clutch lever. It was a true semi-auto with a five speed transmission and a centrifugal clutch. If I could find one, it would meet his needs.
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01-26-2015, 01:47 AM | #85 |
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A semi-auto would also be an excellent teaching tool for new riders.
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01-26-2015, 02:08 AM | #86 |
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My original motor for my bike is a 49cc 4 speed semi auto. It does in fact have a lever activated clutch but its built into the foot shift lever. When you apply slight pressure to the shift lever it activates the clutch, then as you apply more pressure it shifts the gears.
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01-26-2015, 02:22 AM | #87 |
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That's the same setup as the small horizontal Hondas, and I believe the ATC's are also like that.
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01-26-2015, 09:09 AM | #88 |
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That is what I meant to convey , It would be difficult for us to employ gearshift clutch action , in a retrofit to our engines .
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01-26-2015, 12:44 PM | #89 |
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Will be on the lookout for a big red motor. I see lots of those old ATC around here.
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01-26-2015, 01:27 PM | #90 |
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That is exactly what I thought you meant. Thanks for the vid.
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