China Bikes = Death Traps Outta Here!!!!

BamaRider · 07-31-2020, 06:47 PM

I almost got Manny'd as I almost bought a Hawk 250 DXL EFI from 360powersports aka Txpowersports aka a lot of other websites from Carrolton, TX.

Luckily I did my prepurchase research and found out you can't get a title for it in Alabama which basically means you probably can't get a title for it anywhere.

Then after almost being duped by MotoCheeze and his sales propaganda Youtube glowing review I saw a genuine review of what you really get..... This Russian guy who does the Hawk review is really funny and worth watching!

Buyer beware and safe riding! Biker's don't let friends ride TxPowersprots bikes.

Joshcb7 · 07-31-2020, 07:00 PM

I will agree ,There are people making money promoting china bikes and the majority of the people seem to be to stupid to realize that. I feel the hate I get for giving an honest comparison to my Yamaha 225 all while saying I like my China scooters. People get mad if you say anything bad about their China bikes, They only wanna be spoon fed BS that makes them feel good.

Big Bird · 07-31-2020, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BamaRider

I almost got Manny'd as I almost bought a Hawk 250 DXL EFI from 360powersports aka Txpowersports aka a lot of other websites from Carrolton, TX.

Luckily I did my prepurchase research and found out you can't get a title for it in Alabama which basically means you probably can't get a title for it anywhere.

Then after almost being duped by MotoCheeze and his sales propaganda Youtube glowing review I saw a genuine review of what you really get..... This Russian guy who does the Hawk review is really funny and worth watching!

Buyer beware and safe riding! Biker's don't let friends ride TxPowersprots bikes.

I'm no fan of most these dealers but I don't agree with your assertion of Motocheez. You are basing your opinion on these bikes because of one person's experience. You seem very bitter for some reason. I will just leave it at that.

BamaRider · 08-01-2020, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Big Bird

I'm no fan of most these dealers but I don't agree with your assertion of Motocheez. You are basing your opinion on these bikes because of one person's experience. You seem very bitter for some reason. I will just leave it at that.

I'm not bitter and I'm basing my opinion on the POS they sent him. I'm actually glad I did my pre-sale homework before wasting my money on this POS. The video speaks for itself. My guess is that Motocheez paid nothing for the bike he reviewed. My guess is that if you hand out honest reviews you're supply of bikes dry up along with your clicks.

As far as the ass who's selling "Street Legal" bikes with not for road use stickers on the fenders, well,,, let's just say karma eventually takes care of these types. Karma has already probably kicked in given that "Manny" has a bunch of websites up and running under different names. I personally don't like being ripped off.

Big Bird · 08-01-2020, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaRider

I'm not bitter and I'm basing my opinion on the POS they sent him. I'm actually glad I did my pre-sale homework before wasting my money on this POS. The video speaks for itself. My guess is that Motocheez paid nothing for the bike he reviewed. My guess is that if you hand out honest reviews you're supply of bikes dry up along with your clicks.

Does he get free bikes from Japanese motorcycle dealers or just the chinese dealers? Are his Jeeps free from the Jeep dealer? How about his mini pickup? Was that free? Rooftop tent that he showed the receipt for from camping world? Everything he reviews is free? What about the part where he shows leaky gas tanks and untapped tank vent nipples out of the box? Wanna know a secret? My china bike had zero issues out of the box. I definitely didn't get it for free to say that either. Some people just get a lemon.

You know what they say about assumptions.

I have a assumption. I assume Motocheez is in a financial position he doesn't need to get cheap china bikes for free.

emptypockets · 08-02-2020, 12:26 PM

I wouldn't recommend a Chinese crate motorcycle to anyone who isn't a reasonably skilled mechanic, most people will be better off spending the same $2k on a used bike from criagslist. You really need to take these bikes completely apart and re-assemble them correctly.

Ask yourself these questions: Do you have a lot of tools? Do you like to take things apart and put them back together? Do you enjoy swapping parts and tinkering with things? Some people on here clearly enjoy tinkering more than riding. (If you're re-porting the heads on a 200cc chinese dirtbike, you really like tinkering, and that's okay.

)

I saw Motocheeze review the 2019 Hawk EFI and showed gas leaking from the tank all over the motor. He had to custom make a gasket to stop leaking. It seemed honest. I thought: the news ones are still just a big a POS as my 2017.

alex_in_az · 08-02-2020, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by emptypockets

I wouldn't recommend a Chinese crate motorcycle to anyone who isn't a reasonably skilled mechanic, most people will be better off spending the same $2k on a used bike from criagslist. You really need to take these bikes completely apart and re-assemble them correctly.

Ask yourself these questions: Do you have a lot of tools? Do you like to take things apart and put them back together? Do you enjoy swapping parts and tinkering with things? Some people on here clearly enjoy tinkering more than riding. (If you're re-porting the heads on a 200cc chinese dirtbike, you really like tinkering, and that's okay.

)

I saw Motocheeze review the 2019 Hawk EFI and showed gas leaking from the tank all over the motor. He had to custom make a gasket to stop leaking. It seemed honest. I thought: the news ones are still just a big a POS as my 2017.

this is all part of the fun of owning them, I'd wager most on here are older guys who enjoy tinkering with the bikes. I have a CBR500R that is flawlessly reliable, but it's not as much fun overall as the TBR7 is. My bike has had problems but I expected that for $1440 on the road. my point is, these bikes aren't for everyone. Led Zeppelin didn't write songs everyone would like, they left that to the BeeGees

Wild Dog · 08-02-2020, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by emptypockets

I wouldn't recommend a Chinese crate motorcycle to anyone who isn't a reasonably skilled mechanic, most people will be better off spending the same $2k on a used bike from criagslist. You really need to take these bikes completely apart and re-assemble them correctly.

That's the reseller fault, they sent you a crate and that's not really an assemble motorcycle or a ready to use one....
The reseller should put together the motorcycle a simple checklist to verify the QC and then shipt it.

The Hawk in the video, was a faulty unit and not road worthy, the owner should have not done any fix.
Same goes for the leaking tank want to fix it? Fine, but the reseller should send you a new one.

f15sim · 07-31-2020, 09:47 PM

The guy that did the "ugly truth" video kind of comes off like a racist dickbag, imo.

People that buy these bikes thinking they can just throw 'em together, gas 'em and go, are deluding themselves. These motorcycles are built to a price point and require vastly more end-user interaction than your typical Yamaha. Spending an hour doing research would clue them in. I have no sympathy for someone that chases a deal like these bikes without doing any of the research to understand WHY they're so cheap.

I should also note that I had zero issues registering my Hawk DLX in Washington State. I walked out of the local licensing office in roughly 20 minutes with a brand new license plate and registration in hand. The MSO followed the bike by about 4 days after I emailed the VIN to the seller (Smart Deals Now on Amazon (which I think is an AKA for Dallas Power Sports, as that's the company that shipped the bike.)

g.

Highwayman2020 · 07-31-2020, 10:02 PM

Same here, got a CSC TT250 and had it registered in Nevada in 30 minutes.

2LZ · 08-01-2020, 12:49 AM

It's simple. If you don't like China Bikes, don't buy one. If you know how to turn a wrench on occasion, don't expect the newest, latest tech and want to be able to enjoy being in the wind for 1/3 price of a Japanese bike, go for it.

bogieboy · 08-01-2020, 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ

It's simple. If you don't like China Bikes, don't buy one. If you know how to turn a wrench on occasion, don't expect the newest, latest tech and want to be able to enjoy being in the wind for 1/3 price of a Japanese bike, go for it.

also, dont come to a site specifically oriented to people that enjoy their chinese bikes, and enjoy working on then and modding them, and helping others learn about them just to bash them... chances are you will not be greeted with open arms when you do so...

FYI, i can understand the frustration of dealing with Manny, we all know how he works and the BS that occurs. that is not the point of my rant...LOL its about bashing our beloved bikes right out of the gate and calling them death traps... there are members here with no issues over 50,000+ miles of riding their china bikes, i personally have over 7000 trouble free miles on my 07 roketa that i converted to a supermoto....

TheChairman · 08-01-2020, 07:53 AM

**Stares in CSC**

RedCrowRides · 08-01-2020, 08:14 AM

I really can't believe you are trying to assert that the Hawk DLX "can't be titled anywhere" with any actual integrity ,they have sold a LOT of those Bikes collectively and if no one had been able to title them ,that would be a pretty loud outcry - But there isnt one.

You also seem to have some sort of hard on for Motocheeze , his Hawk DLX btw is Titled and has a plate ,another nail in your coffin of tomfoolery about them "not being able to be Titled anywhere" .

I'm not sure what your agenda with this is , but you are spreading misinformation and

attacking someone you dont even know and frankly it's not a good look. Why you would choose to do so on a site that is dedicated to Chinabikes and it's enthusiasts is also questionable , we are collectively much more knowledgeable and informed on the subject than you are ,as the sum total of your knowledge appears to be second hand info from a Bike you didnt buy from a Dealer you shouldnt have used.

If this is your effort to provide information and / or make friends on this site, i 'd sure hate to see what you are like when you are actually TRYING to piss people off.

paulsstag · 08-01-2020, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by BamaRider

I almost got Manny'd as I almost bought a Hawk 250 DXL EFI from 360powersports aka Txpowersports aka a lot of other websites from Carrolton, TX.

Luckily I did my prepurchase research and found out you can't get a title for it in Alabama which basically means you probably can't get a title for it anywhere.

Then after almost being duped by MotoCheeze and his sales propaganda Youtube glowing review I saw a genuine review of what you really get..... This Russian guy who does the Hawk review is really funny and worth watching!

Buyer beware and safe riding! Biker's don't let friends ride TxPowersprots bikes.

You should work for the main stream media , you would fit right in.

You should take up reading also . I recommend "how to win friends and influence people"

Are China bikes for everyone? answer NO
Are China bikes good bang/fun for the money? answer YES
Do some bikes need more fettling (even same make and model)? answer YES
Will you get educated from the gratuitous members on this site ? answer YES

Enough said
Paul

07-31-2020, 06:47 PM	#1
BamaRider Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 9	China Bikes = Death Traps Outta Here!!!! I almost got Manny'd as I almost bought a Hawk 250 DXL EFI from 360powersports aka Txpowersports aka a lot of other websites from Carrolton, TX. Luckily I did my prepurchase research and found out you can't get a title for it in Alabama which basically means you probably can't get a title for it anywhere. Then after almost being duped by MotoCheeze and his sales propaganda Youtube glowing review I saw a genuine review of what you really get..... This Russian guy who does the Hawk review is really funny and worth watching! Buyer beware and safe riding! Biker's don't let friends ride TxPowersprots bikes.
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07-31-2020, 07:00 PM	#2
Joshcb7 Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: USA Posts: 18	I will agree ,There are people making money promoting china bikes and the majority of the people seem to be to stupid to realize that. I feel the hate I get for giving an honest comparison to my Yamaha 225 all while saying I like my China scooters. People get mad if you say anything bad about their China bikes, They only wanna be spoon fed BS that makes them feel good. __________________ 99 XT225,01 CR250r, 2016 Tao Tao Thunder50, 2019 Tbr7 17T front sprocket 39T rear sprocket 110main jet Last edited by Joshcb7; 07-31-2020 at 07:10 PM. Reason: I dumb and cant spel
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08-02-2020, 12:26 PM	#6
emptypockets Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Colorado Posts: 44	I wouldn't recommend a Chinese crate motorcycle to anyone who isn't a reasonably skilled mechanic, most people will be better off spending the same $2k on a used bike from criagslist. You really need to take these bikes completely apart and re-assemble them correctly. Ask yourself these questions: Do you have a lot of tools? Do you like to take things apart and put them back together? Do you enjoy swapping parts and tinkering with things? Some people on here clearly enjoy tinkering more than riding. (If you're re-porting the heads on a 200cc chinese dirtbike, you really like tinkering, and that's okay. ) I saw Motocheeze review the 2019 Hawk EFI and showed gas leaking from the tank all over the motor. He had to custom make a gasket to stop leaking. It seemed honest. I thought: the news ones are still just a big a POS as my 2017. __________________ http://www.chinariders.net/album.php?albumid=355
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07-31-2020, 09:47 PM	#9
f15sim Join Date: May 2020 Location: Graham, WA Posts: 118	The guy that did the "ugly truth" video kind of comes off like a racist dickbag, imo. People that buy these bikes thinking they can just throw 'em together, gas 'em and go, are deluding themselves. These motorcycles are built to a price point and require vastly more end-user interaction than your typical Yamaha. Spending an hour doing research would clue them in. I have no sympathy for someone that chases a deal like these bikes without doing any of the research to understand WHY they're so cheap. I should also note that I had zero issues registering my Hawk DLX in Washington State. I walked out of the local licensing office in roughly 20 minutes with a brand new license plate and registration in hand. The MSO followed the bike by about 4 days after I emailed the VIN to the seller (Smart Deals Now on Amazon (which I think is an AKA for Dallas Power Sports, as that's the company that shipped the bike.) g. __________________ Proud owner of 80-0007. https://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind.
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08-01-2020, 12:49 AM	#11
2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,105	It's simple. If you don't like China Bikes, don't buy one. If you know how to turn a wrench on occasion, don't expect the newest, latest tech and want to be able to enjoy being in the wind for 1/3 price of a Japanese bike, go for it. __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350
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Highwayman2020 Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: North Las Vegas, NV Posts: 12	Same here, got a CSC TT250 and had it registered in Nevada in 30 minutes.
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TheChairman Join Date: May 2020 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 115	Stares in CSC
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08-01-2020, 08:14 AM	#14
RedCrowRides Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Florida Posts: 759	I really can't believe you are trying to assert that the Hawk DLX "can't be titled anywhere" with any actual integrity ,they have sold a LOT of those Bikes collectively and if no one had been able to title them ,that would be a pretty loud outcry - But there isnt one. You also seem to have some sort of hard on for Motocheeze , his Hawk DLX btw is Titled and has a plate ,another nail in your coffin of tomfoolery about them "not being able to be Titled anywhere" . I'm not sure what your agenda with this is , but you are spreading misinformation and attacking someone you dont even know and frankly it's not a good look. Why you would choose to do so on a site that is dedicated to Chinabikes and it's enthusiasts is also questionable , we are collectively much more knowledgeable and informed on the subject than you are ,as the sum total of your knowledge appears to be second hand info from a Bike you didnt buy from a Dealer you shouldnt have used. If this is your effort to provide information and / or make friends on this site, i 'd sure hate to see what you are like when you are actually TRYING to piss people off. __________________ 2001 Mustang GT 2004 Sportster 2018 VADER 2020 Orion RXB250L Last edited by RedCrowRides; 08-01-2020 at 04:53 PM.
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