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08-01-2017, 08:31 AM | #1 |
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TT250/Hawk aftermarket clutch parts?
Does anyone know if some of the popular OEM clutch kit suppliers (Barnett, EBC, Tusk) have plate sets that would fit our bikes?
I'm wondering if some of the Honda kits would work. I have a full set of spare fibres and steels but I don't want to fit them just yet as I suspect they won't be much of an improvement. The clutch is the only part of the bike I'm not totally satisfied with. |
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08-01-2017, 09:28 AM | #2 | |
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08-01-2017, 11:58 AM | #3 |
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As soon as the bike is up to temperature the plates swell and warp a little, if you're in stop/go it gets quite ill tempered. Judder is quite severe under this condition as well. If it's hot - say above 85F - it is particularly difficult, as the clutch bites early, then hard.
It's little I can't live with, but I'd like to see if I can improve it. |
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08-01-2017, 01:44 PM | #4 | |
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08-01-2017, 02:19 PM | #5 | |
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As for rider technique, I am aware of the problem precisely because I don't like to leave it in gear; I habitually prefer the bike in neutral at lights, if for nothing else to relax my hands. |
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08-03-2017, 02:43 PM | #7 | |
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I thought I had just gotten a shitty clutch, as I havent heard any other complaints about it. When it gets grabby like that I get frustrated and park it. Clutch control is everything. |
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08-03-2017, 05:10 PM | #8 | |
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08-02-2017, 02:03 AM | #9 |
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i have quite a few diffrent EBC clutch spring sets
from bikes over the years... give me the dimentions of your springs & I will see if they match any of the heavy duty EBC springs... then I just maybe able to tell yer what bike has the same size springs.. IE.... length / OD / ID ...
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08-02-2017, 08:54 AM | #10 | |
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08-03-2017, 05:18 PM | #11 |
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Mine doesn't act as severe as yours seems to, but once the motor and oil are up to temp mine would get a little grabby toward the latter end of the clutch throw and can give a small jerk forward starting off. I played with my clutch adjustment a bunch and got rid of most of it, but the only solution I have found to smooth it out is to give it some more revs.
The other issue I have been dealing with is actually the clutch adjustment needing re-adjusting once the bike is hot. If I set the free play with the bike cold and then get it up to temp, the clutch drags just enough with the lever pulled all the way back that it is almost impossible to get it out of gear. Once I re-adjust the clutch at the lever, it's fine until the bike gets cold, and then I have zero free play at the lever. I am definitely on board for better clutch plates, discs, and springs.
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08-03-2017, 09:03 PM | #13 | |
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As I said, it's liveable but not ideal. I've got quite adept at slipping it into neutral with a slight blip of the throttle. I think the bigger problem from a precision point of view is the plates are biting with the lever just off the bar, not much, but effectively in the morning my friction zone is at the end of the travel, and by the end of my trip to work and some traffic, it's near the start. I am tempted to call some vendors and see if they'd let me send some discs in. |
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08-04-2017, 09:19 AM | #14 |
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I have the same issue I can not get the clutch adjusted the way I really want it.
I have a hell of a time getting into neutral. I may not have it adjusted correctly I am not sure how much initial tension I need to put on the engine side. I find it hard to know with the tension from the spring.
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08-05-2017, 03:44 PM | #15 | |
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I suspect the springs get weaker when hot, and may be the issue.. I bet they dont have the same tension when hot / or at all, making the clutch chatter. it could contribute to the grabby issue as well but I think the meterials used might not be so good. |
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