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03-14-2017, 11:37 PM | #1 |
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Hard time deciding, Am I missing something ?
Well I got paid Friday and was going to order me a hawk then..................
I saw the posts about the enforcer. and then I came across the BROZZ Am I missing something ? The Brozz has 17/47 sprockets better carb better battery Led lights Digital cluster Remote start Basically everything on the hawk I would upgrade. the only draw back I see is smaller tires 19/17 is stead of 21/18 |
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03-14-2017, 11:42 PM | #2 |
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The rear brake is drum, but for some (me included who have dealt with Chinese enduros with disc brakes) this is a good thing.
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03-15-2017, 02:08 AM | #3 |
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If you were set for the Hawk I'd say go for the Enforcer, it is exactly the same as the Hawk, except it can be easily registered (I haven't done that yet so I can't speak from experience) but the hawk was blacklisted by the DMV on a federal level according to Don from APSC which is why he sold me an Enforcer even though I originally ordered a Hawk. And the Enforcer comes with that upgraded sprocket ratio, and a better looking handle bar, better carb, doesn't have the led lights but that can be easily upgraded.
The Brozz from what I hear is an excellent bike but it has those drawbacks such as wheel size, drum brake, and that it costs a fair bit more, if you can even find somewhere that has it. |
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03-15-2017, 03:38 PM | #4 | |
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If I was in charge of dealer development at Rickypowersports and Don is saying that to customers and changing orders, APSC would not be selling anything from RPS. |
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03-15-2017, 03:48 PM | #5 | |
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03-15-2017, 04:23 PM | #6 | |
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The Hawk is imported into the USA as off road and will not be blacklisted in the future because it was never listed in the first place. So why did he change your order from the Hawk to Enforcer? |
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03-15-2017, 06:15 PM | #7 |
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Well I just found a Local brick and mortar dealer 2 hrs from me in orlando that has both the Hawk and Brozz in stock. Guess I will be taking a road trip.
Just have to coordinate days off with my buddy that has a truck. So it might not be till next weekend :-( |
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03-21-2017, 03:10 PM | #8 | |
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Registration of the HAWK and the NHTSA
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03-21-2017, 03:37 PM | #9 |
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Not to start arguments, but it is not blacklisted--it is just technically, per the feds, not supposed to be on the street--it is certified as an off-road dirt bike. It just happens to come stock with all the lights, horn, and speedo that allows it to be registered in many states. To me, blacklisted means that it is on a list of bikes kept by one of the bureaucracies that is supposed to be monitoring such lists, and special accommodations are made to make sure one of these bikes does not show up ANYWHERE. The last list the Hawk and Magician are on with the EPA is from 2016 (they might have updated their 2017 list recently) puts them in the same league as any other off-road bike like the Apollo, or X-Moto bikes (or KTM, Yamaha, Honda, etc., etc.) Blacklisted implies they are BANNED.
My guess is that if someone was to walk into the local DMV offices in a state like NJ, or Penn. (two of the states that will only street register vehicles that are on the federal database of vehicles that are DOT/EPA certified), it would not show up, and no matter how much hemming and hawing, and managers you plead your case with, they will simply just say "NO!" It is interesting to read that there is hope in Colorado for the Hawk, and thank you for pointing out the 'custom bike' loophole for those members residing in Colorado who thought there was NO way to register one of these.
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03-15-2017, 07:51 AM | #10 |
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I agree it is one of the reasons I went with the Brozz I liked the rear drum.
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03-15-2017, 02:56 AM | #11 |
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I would like to see "Don from APSC" post that the Hawk was black listed on the federal level on this website and show proof. If he is a member here I have never seen him make a post like Adam from RPS and Joe from CSM.
He is a dealer that will say anything to get you to buy.
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03-15-2017, 04:08 AM | #14 |
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Although brand is the REAL 1 (not clone) BUT it's sealed as other's
Still a spillable battery OKish r/s alarm system can found <$8 retail there. Don't know what's inside stock unit. Hopefully not as bad as http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...095#post224095
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03-15-2017, 08:35 AM | #15 | |
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https://www.powerrideoutlet.com/dirt...abs_faq_tabbed I would call and make sure about the wheel size but other then that its Brozz all the way.
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