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04-01-2016, 07:46 AM | #1 |
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tt250 miss the boat pricing nerfed?
Maybe I am just still sleepy but did the bulk of the miss the boat price savings differential just evaporate? look at the cscs site. need coffee.......let me try to read that again...this time with both eyes .....
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04-01-2016, 08:41 AM | #2 |
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you are correct.. we saved a whole 95 dollars by pre-ordering
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04-01-2016, 09:14 AM | #3 |
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Beer money, I'll take it.
I was curious to see how they'd roll off the shelf at the 2495 pricing. There's way too many Hondoids out there available to non-CA states for far less $$$. Hawks and Storms being the main competition, as proven by the recent numbers of new arrivals here and we're just a sampling. It appears to me that the TT250 is nothing more than a Hawk with USD forks and the balanced motor...plus all the cool stuff, awesome service and parts availability that CSC is adding. Unless there's something magical about it being built by Zongshen, there doesn't appear to be much difference so 2495 will be very hard to justify for them outside of CA. Of course, CSC has the CA market buttoned up for Hondoids until someone else steps up to the plate for CARB approval. What I don't get is if the Hawk and Storm have the little air pump and cat in the pipe, it's got all the equipment needed to pass CARB. Everyone is riding CA bikes already. It's just a matter of "greasing the proper palms" to have a huge market here.
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04-01-2016, 09:46 AM | #4 |
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am i the only one a bit miffed? maybe if they would discount the money charged us for the "free shipping" , the folks who financed the whole tt250 endeavor by laying down their bucks early would feel better, but to tell you the truth, i am not feeling so good at the moment :{
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04-01-2016, 10:23 AM | #5 | |
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04-01-2016, 10:44 AM | #6 |
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What is the difference between these and the hawk besides the forks?
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04-01-2016, 11:00 AM | #7 |
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"What is the difference between these and the hawk besides the forks?"
From what I can tell, the USD forks with adjustable dampening, the balance shaft motor, the fact it's built by Zongshen...plus the stuff CSC is adding along with their awesome service, support and parts availability. Upgraded 300 watt stator to run heated stuff, two 12V hookups under the seat that are controlled by the "A1 and A2" switch on the switch gear, custom painted frame and bars, upgraded switch gear. I can't recall if there is anything else.
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04-01-2016, 11:17 AM | #8 |
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as i understand it from the csc blogs, videos-
1. mfg by zong 2.balanced zong motor, 3.upgraded 300 watt stator and handle bar switch for controlling two aux circuits, 4.usd adjustable damping front forks 5. rear adjustable damping monoshock 6.changed gearing (don't know final production ratio yet but Joe beck said he got 74mph out of the csc demo one), 7. upgraded handlebar switches, 8.change to satin black frame paint. 9.change to handlebar finish 10. more adv oriented tires (hawk comes w full knobbies) 11. fully CARB certified, 50 state street legal 12. wavey disc brake rotors 13.full csc factory assembly-setup,check out and test ride, fluid changes then disassembly- new crating. 14. longer warranty, parts service etc, unexcelled customer service, communication etc. 15. opportunity to get herded through baja by joe on csc sponsored expedition lol 16. I *think* you can get csc to set yours up with the tires/sprockets you want for your anticipated type of riding but don't know costs. ask spud if i missed anything. (oh, forgot the mirrors
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04-01-2016, 10:55 AM | #9 |
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"My Hawk doesn't have the air injector. Or the evap stuff either..."
My error then. I thought I'd read here in multiple places that the Hawk and/or Storm had the little air injection valve. SeerAtlas, I'm not bothered. The Boat People still got the best deal so far, even if it was only was by 95.00. Beats a sharp stick in the eye and selfishly speaking, I get a street legal Hondoind in CA. Hard to come by..... My only other choice is a SSR XF 250 for 2795 and where would I get parts and service for it?...but again, that's selfishly speaking. Our deposits are refundable, right?
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04-01-2016, 02:12 PM | #10 |
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it is the storm that has the air valve and the cat ... tried to bust out my cat today ... failed :(
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04-01-2016, 11:24 AM | #11 |
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Is the frame on the TT250 powder coated or painted? One of the nice things about my 11 year old Zongshen made Roketa 200 is the powder coated frame.
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04-01-2016, 11:26 AM | #12 |
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beck said paint i think in the video
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04-01-2016, 05:12 PM | #13 |
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Thank you for verifying the problem, Mark.
I'm confident the sealant will hold out for you trip to South America. However, if I wanted a motorcycle to remain in my stable for years, I would not buy a bike with this defect. If this is a common problem for the Hawk motorcycles, I would definitely spend the extra money to get a CSC TT250, which is manufactured by Zongshen. I would be very surprised if this air box defect could pass the quality control at the Zongshen factory, and I would be even more surprised if CSC is willing to sell any TT250 bikes with this defect.
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