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Old 06-25-2013, 12:17 AM   #1
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get a GREAT sounding exhaust for your bike easily...

**MODS this thread is currently a work in progress, i will edit it to have pics of everything i can possibly get now that i installed the silencer. i intend this to become a How-To thread once it is finished**

well, i picked up a FMF powercore2 for a ktm 96 250,and did a bit ofmodding to make it fit my Shineray/rocketa DB07a style lifanoid, and i am very happy with the results...

to install the new silencer theres a few things you will need.

the new silencer
Tiger Patch
a cutting tool such as a cut off wheel or a hacksaw or bandsaw
1- inch and a half or 38mm exhaust clamp
basic wrenches for removal and installation of the exhaust

botht e tiger patch and the exhaust clamp are readily available at your local parts store

step one, find a pipe for a Ktm 250 smoker (i got a powercore, i would assume a turbine core, quietcore, etc would all be relatively the same, just how loud or quiet it will be) the powercore2 part # is FMF # 025025

step 2, cut the lead pipe off just after the bend, all you need is the straight piece, you dont need the bend. i used an air cutt off tool, a hacksaw or angle grinder would also do the trick, or if you got fancy tools like a metal cutting bandsaw that works too...



step 3 cut just the stock muffler off the stock leadpipe. mine had a cone shape thing leading into the muffler, i cut it off right before the cone thing, (sorry i forgot to get pics, will edit them in later) so the lead pipe was as long as it could be and still be the uniform diameter.
step 4, cut 4 1/2-1" slots in the factory pipe, so it can crush down easier on the new pipe.

step 5 put the stock leadpipe back on the bike, sans muffler

step 6 test fit the new silencer in the slip fit you created in step 4, and test mount the silencer, the front mount on the silencer should match up with the stock muffler mount.

step 7 remove the silencer, and place a few wraps of Tiger Tape around the new silencers leadpipe end. this will create a gasket seal with the stock leadpipe,and not require any welding.

step 8 place the exhaust clamp on the stock lead pipe and slip the now tiger patch wrapped lead pipe back in.

step 9 attach the silencer to the stock exhaust mount. tighten down the exhaust clamp

step 10...enjoy the new beefy sound of your China Bike (and rejet the carb as needed...it will need it...)



and for comparison to the stock, i had a bit of a leak, but you get the idea.... it sounds like a stinking scooter....



 
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Old 06-25-2013, 12:36 AM   #2
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Much better, indeed! I'd start with two sizes up on each jet.
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:07 AM   #3
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Good job, BB! Thanks for taking the time to document your work.

Your muffler sounds great! Even more important, I'm betting you will get more performance from your engine with the aftermarket muffler.

Incidentally, you bike looks very good in Yamaha Blue.
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Old 06-25-2013, 01:28 AM   #4
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Much better, indeed! I'd start with two sizes up on each jet.
thats about what i had figured as well... anyone know what type of jets the carb takes on the lifanoids? are they mikuni?

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Good job, BB! Thanks for taking the time to document your work.

Your muffler sounds great! Even more important, I'm betting you will get more performance from your engine with the aftermarket muffler.

Incidentally, you bike looks very good in Yamaha Blue.
thanks for the kind words spud, even if i dont get more performance from the bike, i shed litteraly 20# just by cutting that stock can off... that can is a PIG... the new muffler weighs MAYBE 5 pounds, probably closer to 3... it does have a bit of a spark arrestor in it, but itsno way approved by USFS...LOLits about 8 pieces of wire in a random pattern across the outlet of the can... other than that its a stright thru performance muffler...LOL its considerably quieter than a straight pipe though, so thats good, i was worried about it being REALLY loud...its not, just beefy...LOL

and i am a big fan of blue...i am very tempted to shoot all the white with flat black krylon fusion though... just something i like about flat black and gloss blue...LOL


 
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Old 06-25-2013, 10:48 AM   #5
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I'm with you on the black and blue scheme; that's how my TW ended up.

Your carb is probably a Keihin clone, vs. a Mikuni, and Mikuni clones can be difficult to find replacement jets for. Count the number of screws on the float bowl; 4=Mikuni and 3=Keihin.

Here's a Mikuni that would do the trick and be more easily jetted: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carburetor-C...4979d6&vxp=mtr You'll easily find jets online or at your local Yamaha dealer.
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Old 06-25-2013, 11:08 AM   #6
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I'm with you on the black and blue scheme; that's how my TW ended up.

Your carb is probably a Keihin clone, vs. a Mikuni, and Mikuni clones can be difficult to find replacement jets for. Count the number of screws on the float bowl; 4=Mikuni and 3=Keihin.

Here's a Mikuni that would do the trick and be more easily jetted: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Carburetor-C...4979d6&vxp=mtr You'll easily find jets online or at your local Yamaha dealer.
thanks for the link, i will probably pick one up... one could stand to reason going up to the 30 mm may already be jetted pretty close, since my bike has a 27mm on it now... gotta go get a few spark plugs and do some plug chop tuning now...LOL or pull the wide band O2 sensor out of my truck... thats an indispensable tuning tool.... love it...too bad its a permanent install type one...


 
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Old 06-26-2013, 12:13 PM   #7
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the reason it made max power that fat was because i could add in more timing, and used the extra fuel to cool the chamber to prevent detonation, instead of retarding the timing to prevent det... Its a really fine line...LOL and that was running 93 octane, if i had run 100 or 106 i could have put a bunch more timing back in and made more juice yet...but 7.50 a gallon for a daily driver is a no-no....LOL


 
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Also gotta remember boosted vehicles are gonna run fatter because of the detonation quench that i described... Some boost cars are happiest at almost 10:1, but they arent able to be daily driven unless you change the oil every 500miles due to all the fuel washing down the cylinders and thinning the oil...


 
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Oh and.....LOL i made 255hp/312tq at the rear wheels, which calculated to roughly 320crank hp and 390tq on an otherwise stock 318 v8 dakota...hehehe


 
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More than 1hp per CI at the crank! I forgot about the fuel needs of a boosted engine; I was thinking about NA.
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the mikuni that we commony refer to as a 30 mm is really a 26mm across the throat, but is commonly referred to incorrectly as 30 because its a 30mm bore behind the venturi...LOL


 
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