Rhino 250???

[2LZ]

I've been nosing at the "new" Taotao Rhino 250. Funny thing is all the websites list it as the 200cc motor (163fm), including Taotao's website themselves.
Shouldn't it be the 230cc (167fm) motor in that Rhino to be listed as a 250? I know that China bikes/quads have a mystery reputation for absolute fact, including notoriously poor data listed on the websites, but this is one of the larger descrepencies I've seen regarding listing motor size.
Anyone have a new Rhino and is it really the 200 and not the 230 (250)?...or do the websites once again have really poor data??

[Mudflap]

The Taotao ATA250D is also listed on the site as 200cc but I'm skeptical. It has the same engine as the Rhino which is a 171FMM indicating 250cc class (71mm bore) where the 200 would be 163FML or 167FML which would be 200cc class. To be a 200cc with the 71mm bore it would have a very short stroke making it quite over square. One site I looked at says it has a 70mm bore and 65mm stroke which would make it an actual 250cc.

[2LZ]

Good to know! I have never seen a 171fmm motor and didn't know that was available. I just thought it was of the 163 (200) and the 167 (229? 230?) motors.
This is looking more promising.....

[taotaonogo]

I just bought a TaoToa Rhino 250 this Novenber of 2015. It has a 167FMM engine. The plate on the front on the front of the chassis says it is 197cc.

[Mudflap]

The Zongshen 200 I own has a 167FML engine which has a 67mm bore and 56.3mm stroke making it 198cc, so they use that same bore on a 200cc and a 230cc engine. I would think a square to undersquare engine would be best for ATV use because of the low end power but a 200cc engine with a 71mm bore would have a 50mm stroke and be quite oversquare.

[2LZ]

Wow, confusing. So many variations of the same pushrod motor. Seems the 163, 167 AND 169 are all 200cc's of one flavor or another (bore x stroke), and the 171 is the 230cc.
I'm sure that's all common knowledge here somewhere..... I usually come late to the party.

[Tonyrader]

its 200cc, even they dealer told me that before I bought the 250e that is liquid cooled and is 250cc, but they are much more pricey. but have much smaller tires than the other quads with racks.

[Mudflap]

A good salesman will always try to talk a customer into a more expensive model. The FMM in the engine number indicates 250cc class where the 200 engines are designated FML. I put the depth rod of a caliper down through the spark plug hole and got a reading of about 65mm but the hole isn't straight up and down so the measurement could be a little off.

Originally Posted by Tonyrader

its 200cc, even they dealer told me that before I bought the 250e that is liquid cooled and is 250cc, but they are much more pricey. but have much smaller tires than the other quads with racks.

[Tonyrader]

Originally Posted by Mudflap

A good salesman will always try to talk a customer into a more expensive model. The FMM in the engine number indicates 250cc class where the 200 engines are designated FML. I put the depth rod of a caliper down through the spark plug hole and got a reading of about 65mm but the hole isn't straight up and down so the measurement could be a little off.

well I only paid 1100.00 each set up with tax and title. so he wasn't that good. How much did you pay for your 200cc,,LOL

[Mudflap]

$400.00. Wouldn't mind if it were 200cc. Plenty of power for me. I have 2 200cc bikes that are great. Liquid cooling is a big plus though.

Originally Posted by Tonyrader

well I only paid 1100.00 each set up with tax and title. so he wasn't that good. How much did you pay for your 200cc,,LOL

[Tonyrader]

Originally Posted by Mudflap

A good salesman will always try to talk a customer into a more expensive model. The FMM in the engine number indicates 250cc class where the 200 engines are designated FML. I put the depth rod of a caliper down through the spark plug hole and got a reading of about 65mm but the hole isn't straight up and down so the measurement could be a little off.

this is the motor I have.

http://www.loncinindustries.com/en/m...529-2146780071
and my serial numbers do not have FMM or FML in my numbers, motor or frame.

[taotaonogo]

I just bought a new TaoTao Rhino 250 (or ATA250-D). 11/03/2015
I comes with a 167FMM engine and this is a 197cc motor.

The "250" is only a unit model identifier number and does NOT represent the engine size. It is advertised as a 200cc and like most manufacturers that is a round up number. The engine is a clone of a Honda engine, however, all makes of the 167 FMM engine should have interchangeable parts regardless of manufacturer- although some have electric start while other have electric/kick start.

[Mudflap]

While it would be convenient for all 167FMM (or any other CG clone) to have interchangeable parts, that is not necessarily the case. Engines with the same number designation may have different crankshafts, different gear ratios, different types of gear cuts, different clutch parts, different oil pumps, etc..

Originally Posted by taotaonogo

The engine is a clone of a Honda engine, however, all makes of the 167 FMM engine should have interchangeable parts regardless of manufacturer- although some have electric start while other have electric/kick start.

[2LZ]

Thanks for the decoder info Mudflap! I figured it had to be here somewhere.....

[taotaonogo]

This is information I found on the internet- guess it was wrong- sorry