Got a TaoTao... I think.

rfincher86 · 07-23-2014, 11:17 PM

A good friend of mine recently passed away and I inherited his TaoTao (I think) 110 fourwheeler (I'm guessing 110, the engine says 107cc) it has a 3 speed transmission and runs really good but I have noticed that it just doesn't have enough torque. I was trying to go over a fairly small tree that has fallen and it would not go, I had to get off and push it over it. Is there anything that am I can do to make this thing better?

Weldangrind · 07-23-2014, 11:31 PM

Welcome!

Start by showing us some pics. I think I know what you have, but pics would help. My daughter had a 50cc atv, and the muffler choked it terribly. Upon opening it up, it had enough torque to haul my butt around.

FLASHLIGHTBOY · 07-24-2014, 12:54 AM

Hello..... yes the muffler can restrict t he motor a lot... if you do not mind the extra noise.. open up the exhaust..... but first undo the exhaust pipe at the motor to check it out... to see if this is the problem...... otherwise it might be a clutch ... or a clutch adjustment..... people do not change the oil enough or run it low... this burns up the clutch linings... you can see on YOUTUBE how to adjust a Honda clutch... simple to do.. the make does not matter much..... most are about the same items... just weaker frames... weak swingarm bushings ( gio )... as WELD says... show some pics if you can,.. but check out the above first.. Does it work ok on the flats

rfincher86 · 07-24-2014, 08:41 AM

It does pretty well on flat surface but I have noticed that if you gas it pretty hard that you can hear the engine rev up but feel no difference in speed, like something is slipping. I searched the vin on 2 different sites and one said it is a TaoTao and the other said the manufacturer was unknown. They both said it is a 2008.

Weldangrind · 07-24-2014, 10:21 AM

Ok, somebody has already removed the stock muffler and installed a utility muffler from TSC or similar.

Check under the chrome inspection cover on the right side of the motor. You should see a stud with a nut for adjusting purposes, but the stud must have a slot cut in it that can accept a slot screwdriver. Some do not have the slot.

If yours has the right setup, use this Youtube vid: Clutch Adjustment

rfincher86 · 07-24-2014, 02:57 PM

Thank you so much for your help! I will take a look at it when I get home from work, hopefully this fixes my problem. Do you know how much oil this engine holds?

rfincher86 · 07-24-2014, 05:30 PM

Ok, got the clutch adjusted but it shifts easier but still feels like it doesn't have any torque, maybe that's just how these engines are? I do have a few concerns, I found a sticker that says this engine is a 150cc but on the cylinder itself it says 107cm3. Maybe the engine has been replaced?

katoranger · 07-24-2014, 05:58 PM

Most likely the sticker is wrong. What I would do for more power is to drop a tooth on the counter shaft sprocket. That should help with hills.

rfincher86 · 07-24-2014, 06:48 PM

Is the counter shaft the one on the engine?

FLASHLIGHTBOY · 07-24-2014, 10:48 PM

Hello.... this is a 125 F1... some one must have changed the motor if it says 107.. and it is a forward & reverse drive.. right?? if so that explains why it is slow... the atv is built to have a 1st , 2nd & 3rd gearing to execrate better and carry the load... as mention.. change the motor gear to a smaller one.. this will take the load off to handle it better.. cuts down the top end speed.... but you have to get there..... on this model with the 3 speed trans... people usually blow the trans in 2nd gear because the downshift when going too fast... and the teeth can not handle it... I warn people to NOT DOWNSHIFT from 3rd if they are going fast.. one they learn they will be buying s motor if this happens.... they learn..

rfincher86 · 07-25-2014, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by FLASHLIGHTBOY

Hello.... this is a 125 F1... some one must have changed the motor if it says 107.. and it is a forward & reverse drive.. right?? if so that explains why it is slow... the atv is built to have a 1st , 2nd & 3rd gearing to execrate better and carry the load... as mention.. change the motor gear to a smaller one.. this will take the load off to handle it better.. cuts down the top end speed.... but you have to get there..... on this model with the 3 speed trans... people usually blow the trans in 2nd gear because the downshift when going too fast... and the teeth can not handle it... I warn people to NOT DOWNSHIFT from 3rd if they are going fast.. one they learn they will be buying s motor if this happens.... they learn..

It still has a 3 speed transmission.

Weldangrind · 07-25-2014, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by rfincher86

Is the counter shaft the one on the engine?

That's right. To answer your other question, the engine holds less than a quart.

Remove your front sprocket to compare it with this one: http://www.jtsprockets.com/catalogue/model/5031

katoranger · 07-25-2014, 11:13 AM

I can see that it has larger tires installed on the rear and likely you weigh more than the intended kid riders so even with the 3 speed it is struggling to move you while turning larger tires. Gearing it down should help with climbing hills. Also make it easier to drive at low speeds.

Countershaft is the engine sprocket. Its the easiest to change and the cheaper more available sprocket. Likely a 428 chain. If you don't care about top speed drop 2 teeth.

Weldangrind · 07-25-2014, 02:27 PM

Agreed. Just make sure that you don't drop below 12 teeth on the countershaft sprocket. Any less, and you're forcing the chain to articulate around too small of a radius.

rfincher86 · 08-08-2014, 11:19 PM

Ok, so I finally got around to looking at the sprockets and found the sprocket on the engine had 2 broken teeth. I ordered a 12 tooth sprocket, hopefully that solves my problem.

07-23-2014, 11:17 PM	#1
rfincher86 Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 12	Got a TaoTao... I think. A good friend of mine recently passed away and I inherited his TaoTao (I think) 110 fourwheeler (I'm guessing 110, the engine says 107cc) it has a 3 speed transmission and runs really good but I have noticed that it just doesn't have enough torque. I was trying to go over a fairly small tree that has fallen and it would not go, I had to get off and push it over it. Is there anything that am I can do to make this thing better?
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07-23-2014, 11:31 PM	#2
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Welcome! Start by showing us some pics. I think I know what you have, but pics would help. My daughter had a 50cc atv, and the muffler choked it terribly. Upon opening it up, it had enough torque to haul my butt around. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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07-24-2014, 12:54 AM	#3
FLASHLIGHTBOY Join Date: May 2009 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,161	speed Hello..... yes the muffler can restrict t he motor a lot... if you do not mind the extra noise.. open up the exhaust..... but first undo the exhaust pipe at the motor to check it out... to see if this is the problem...... otherwise it might be a clutch ... or a clutch adjustment..... people do not change the oil enough or run it low... this burns up the clutch linings... you can see on YOUTUBE how to adjust a Honda clutch... simple to do.. the make does not matter much..... most are about the same items... just weaker frames... weak swingarm bushings ( gio )... as WELD says... show some pics if you can,.. but check out the above first.. Does it work ok on the flats __________________ DEALER FOR ZSTAR & GIO PRODUCTS, TAOTAO ABIBABA ATV ETC
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07-24-2014, 10:21 AM	#5
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Ok, somebody has already removed the stock muffler and installed a utility muffler from TSC or similar. Check under the chrome inspection cover on the right side of the motor. You should see a stud with a nut for adjusting purposes, but the stud must have a slot cut in it that can accept a slot screwdriver. Some do not have the slot. If yours has the right setup, use this Youtube vid: Clutch Adjustment __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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07-24-2014, 05:58 PM	#8
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	Most likely the sticker is wrong. What I would do for more power is to drop a tooth on the counter shaft sprocket. That should help with hills. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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07-24-2014, 02:57 PM	#6
rfincher86 Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 12	Thank you so much for your help! I will take a look at it when I get home from work, hopefully this fixes my problem. Do you know how much oil this engine holds?
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07-24-2014, 05:30 PM	#7
rfincher86 Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 12	Ok, got the clutch adjusted but it shifts easier but still feels like it doesn't have any torque, maybe that's just how these engines are? I do have a few concerns, I found a sticker that says this engine is a 150cc but on the cylinder itself it says 107cm3. Maybe the engine has been replaced?
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07-24-2014, 06:48 PM	#9
rfincher86 Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 12	Is the counter shaft the one on the engine?
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07-24-2014, 10:48 PM	#10
FLASHLIGHTBOY Join Date: May 2009 Location: SASKATOON Posts: 1,161	motor Hello.... this is a 125 F1... some one must have changed the motor if it says 107.. and it is a forward & reverse drive.. right?? if so that explains why it is slow... the atv is built to have a 1st , 2nd & 3rd gearing to execrate better and carry the load... as mention.. change the motor gear to a smaller one.. this will take the load off to handle it better.. cuts down the top end speed.... but you have to get there..... on this model with the 3 speed trans... people usually blow the trans in 2nd gear because the downshift when going too fast... and the teeth can not handle it... I warn people to NOT DOWNSHIFT from 3rd if they are going fast.. one they learn they will be buying s motor if this happens.... they learn.. __________________ DEALER FOR ZSTAR & GIO PRODUCTS, TAOTAO ABIBABA ATV ETC
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07-25-2014, 11:13 AM	#13
katoranger Join Date: May 2007 Location: Altamont, Kansas Posts: 15,103	I can see that it has larger tires installed on the rear and likely you weigh more than the intended kid riders so even with the 3 speed it is struggling to move you while turning larger tires. Gearing it down should help with climbing hills. Also make it easier to drive at low speeds. Countershaft is the engine sprocket. Its the easiest to change and the cheaper more available sprocket. Likely a 428 chain. If you don't care about top speed drop 2 teeth. __________________ You meet the nicest people on a Honda Clone.
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07-25-2014, 02:27 PM	#14
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Agreed. Just make sure that you don't drop below 12 teeth on the countershaft sprocket. Any less, and you're forcing the chain to articulate around too small of a radius. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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08-08-2014, 11:19 PM	#15
rfincher86 Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 12	Ok, so I finally got around to looking at the sprockets and found the sprocket on the engine had 2 broken teeth. I ordered a 12 tooth sprocket, hopefully that solves my problem.
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