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02-22-2018, 10:35 PM | #1 |
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Relapsing Hawk Addict
Hey everyone! I used to be very active on here when I had my Hawk, I really loved that bike. Someone offered me $1400 for it and I sold it last year.
Ive regretted doing that, and having trouble deciding on a bike. Im between getting another Hawk, or stretching myself and getting one of the LXR 250F's. I like the cheapness of the hawk, but the LXR seems like everything I wanted the hawk to be. 6 speed trans, ~90mph, etc. What do you guys think? Im leaning towards the LXR. Also, does anyone have experience with TBoltUSA? Thanks guys! Last edited by mq1991; 02-22-2018 at 11:19 PM. |
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02-22-2018, 11:40 PM | #2 |
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seems you answered your own ? go with your gut
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02-22-2018, 11:43 PM | #3 |
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It seems like you have answered your own question there but if you want my two cents, I would go with the hawk. It's much much cheaper from what I've seen and I think you would get just as much out of it (especially for the price points). Plus, it seems like you really loved your first one.
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02-22-2018, 11:47 PM | #4 |
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Thanks guys, ive been out of the loop as far as reputable stores go. Is Q9powersports still a good place to go?
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02-23-2018, 04:50 PM | #5 |
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Just think of all the fun you will have assembling and modding again. I haven't heard anything bad about Q9powersports. Killermotorsports are good to deal with and had no issues with APSCUSA either. If I had the money I would go with the LXR 250F But for budget purposes you can't go wrong with the Hawk.
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02-23-2018, 07:36 PM | #7 |
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In my mind the LXR250f and Hawk are almost two different classes of bike.
The LXR250f is to the CRF250R/L as the Hawk is to the CRF230F. I don't think you would be unhappy with either choice. If you don't mind spending the money of 2 1/2 Hawks, the LXR250f definitely offers the hardware to make up that difference in price. If you want the most capable off road bike, then the LXR250f wins hands down. Nearly double the power, GOOD suspension, alloy rims, and EFI. You can also fit parts for KTM's like a larger fuel tank, and there is even a big bore kit made for that engine. The Hawk is the king of value. With a few cheap upgrades and changes it makes an awesome commuter bike, errand runner, and/or a fun weekend trail bike. It will never be a good true off-roader when compared to other bikes like the LXR though, so if that matters, then the extra money is well spent. That said, it is hard to beat in terms of capabilities for the money spent.
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02-23-2018, 09:00 PM | #8 | |
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Its a really hard choice, the wife doesnt make it any easier because she says I can only have one bike. Well, we will see. I have an FZ 07 at the moment, and she wants me to sell it to get one of these bikes. I dont think she understands that all three are VERY different. Oh well. |
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02-23-2018, 09:49 PM | #9 | |
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The extra power will definitely make it a little more capable on the highway. Obviously, not a ton more, but enough. Hawks are pretty pegged to maintain 65mph where the LXR can achieve that and have room to spare. The better suspension, efi, and hardware in general will also likely leave you happier. Toss on a larger fuel tank so you don't have to fill it every other day and a good set of dual sport tires like the Shinko 244 to have slightly better on-road manners but still be capable off-road and I think you would have a good honest all-rounder you would be happy with.
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02-24-2018, 12:27 AM | #10 | |
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I dont mind messing with carbs, ive tuned bikes before and had a great time. There was something about my hawk where it just never really idled right. I chased that thing up and down til my head hurt. Tried all sorts of different main, pilot, mix settings, etc. Checked for vacuum leaks, you name it. I must have been doing something wrong because it just did not play nice. Everything else but the idle I got tuned really well! I hit 68 on mine with a GPS, and it would pick the front wheel up in 1st, and clutched up in 2nd. Felt really good at anything but idle. We will see what happens, ill let you guys know what I end up doing! |
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02-24-2018, 10:57 AM | #12 |
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Fixed it for you... not trying to be pedantic, but having owned a 250L, they are pretty slow turds that weigh too much to be considered a serious offroad bike (though they are seriously reliable). The LXR also doesn't need engine rebuilds constantly like a 250R. The LXR has more power (than the 250L) and I think like 60 lbs less weight, and basically has a KTM chassis. For my money, I'd consider an LXR, but also Pitster Pro is coming out with a 450 this year, I think I'm save my shekels for that, because if its anything like the 250, it will be a good balance of performance, reliability, and modernity, because there really isn't anything that comes close without doubling the price.
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02-24-2018, 04:02 PM | #13 | |
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As far as a 450 on the market, I am interested to see what Pitster makes and how it compares to an already existing Chinese made 450 on the market, the SSR SR450S, which I have my eye on as a potential purchase this year. It's basically a CRF450 clone, without the CRF450 service intervals.
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02-24-2018, 07:07 PM | #14 |
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MegaDan,
The new Pitster bikes are being rebranded as "GPX moto". The frames are very similar to the LXR250, but they will come with 4 different motor options: 1. A 2-stroke (40hp) Yamaha DT230 clone (electric start) 2. A 4-stroke air-cooled true 250cc Zong motor similar to a 230f honda 3. NC250 4. NC450 He has said that the first batch of bikes will be carbureted, but EFI will be coming in the fall and it will most likely be Delphi system. |
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02-24-2018, 12:18 PM | #15 |
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It's no secret around here that I love the LXR. I can also totally relate to the Hawk.
You identified my #1 reason for going a little extra and getting the LXR ; electronic fuel injection. No fiddling with carbs, no worries about if it's too lean or too rich. No storage hassles. |
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