Apollo orion 36-rx 250cc

just a rider · 07-20-2015, 10:20 AM

Hey guys.
I'm new to the forum, so hello to everyone here.

Does anyone know anything about the given bike?
It's like 2-3 weeks old by now, it has some eletrical problems but that's not the case.

I would like to get rid of the limiters, so far we have an idea it has 3 limiters.
1 in exhaust, 1 in air-intake, 1 in carburetor. Possible the rev limiter is in the CDI (the brain I guess).

Any tips about the bike or anything? Since the bike is really dead to me, as in it doesn't really go into revs, impossible to wheelie with it and so on. It's a nice bike and I believe it'll ride just fine, only needs some changes.

With best regards,
Me

Weldangrind · 07-20-2015, 11:48 AM

Welcome!

For starters, please show us a pic of the bike. It's tough to get a sense of it from your avatar.

just a rider · 07-20-2015, 12:27 PM

images then
http://imgur.com/dTkCNz6,HTMZV5h,mf8cwFM#0
i hope that helps

just a rider · 07-20-2015, 12:29 PM

also, this

http://imgur.com/tbgMers

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Originally Posted by just a rider

images then
http://imgur.com/dTkCNz6,HTMZV5h,mf8cwFM#0
i hope that helps

Weldangrind · 07-20-2015, 12:41 PM

I can't seem to get the image to display in a reasonable size. perhaps someone smarter than me can assist.

Weldangrind · 07-20-2015, 12:43 PM

That's a really cool bike. It looks like it might be an OHC water-cooled engine.

Can you show us the CDI?

just a rider · 07-20-2015, 12:52 PM

I know little to nothing about the bikes, so where could I fine the CDI?
It still has a guarantee, so should I open the bike up and remove the CDI? 'Cause I'm forced to drop it to a guarantee service anyways in 1-2 weeks, maybe i'll wait and do it after that. Since the electronical failures, some very random engine kills, battery is done for, only starts with a kick-starter, which is fine by me tho.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

That's a really cool bike. It looks like it might be an OHC water-cooled engine.

Can you show us the CDI?

just a rider · 07-20-2015, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

That's a really cool bike. It looks like it might be an OHC water-cooled engine.

Can you show us the CDI?

and yeah, it's a water-cooled engine

just a rider · 07-20-2015, 01:00 PM

Found some papers
Engine Manufacturer: Zhejiang Apollo Motorcycle Manufacturer Co.,Ltd
Engine type as marked on the engine : APL170MM
Cylinder Cap. : 249cc
Which is worrying me is, that it's 250cc and has 13kw/7.5k rpm, is it normal?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

That's a really cool bike. It looks like it might be an OHC water-cooled engine.

Can you show us the CDI?

Weldangrind · 07-20-2015, 12:59 PM

I know it is water cooled; what I meant is that it looks like a water-cooled OHC engine. Most of the water cooled China bikes I've seen have been pushrod motors (at least the Honda clones).

When you say it has a guarantee, do you mean there is warranty coverage on this bike?

just a rider · 07-20-2015, 01:01 PM

Yes, that's right, warranty

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind

I know it is water cooled; what I meant is that it looks like a water-cooled OHC engine. Most of the water cooled China bikes I've seen have been pushrod motors (at least the Honda clones).

When you say it has a guarantee, do you mean there is warranty coverage on this bike?

Weldangrind · 07-20-2015, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by just a rider

Yes, that's right, warranty

I recommend that you take it in, and request a new battery for starters. If the problems don't go away, also request a new CDI. Ask them to show you how to install it.

SpudRider · 07-21-2015, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

I recommend that you take it in, and request a new battery for starters. If the problems don't go away, also request a new CDI. Ask them to show you how to install it.

I agree with Weld on all points.

P.S. That is a good looking motorcycle.

just a rider · 07-21-2015, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SpudRider

I agree with Weld on all points.

P.S. That is a good looking motorcycle.

^Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

I recommend that you take it in, and request a new battery for starters. If the problems don't go away, also request a new CDI. Ask them to show you how to install it.

^Alright I'll do that

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

I did that. I'm trying to post the pics in this thread, but they're huge.

^Thanks for posting them

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Originally Posted by Weldangrind

Yes, that translates to about 17hp. Sounds about right.

You might free up another hp or two with some air filter and muffler upgrades.

^Thanks for the tip, it'll be my next mission after the warranty service.

Thanks a lot guys, once I'm done with these, I'll hit you all back on how it went.

Adjuster · 07-20-2015, 01:02 PM

If you open his image links then click on the pictures they open up very full size. 3 pictures total. Nice looking bike.

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07-20-2015, 10:20 AM	#1
just a rider Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 10	Apollo orion 36-rx 250cc Hey guys. I'm new to the forum, so hello to everyone here. Does anyone know anything about the given bike? It's like 2-3 weeks old by now, it has some eletrical problems but that's not the case. I would like to get rid of the limiters, so far we have an idea it has 3 limiters. 1 in exhaust, 1 in air-intake, 1 in carburetor. Possible the rev limiter is in the CDI (the brain I guess). Any tips about the bike or anything? Since the bike is really dead to me, as in it doesn't really go into revs, impossible to wheelie with it and so on. It's a nice bike and I believe it'll ride just fine, only needs some changes. With best regards, Me Last edited by just a rider; 07-20-2015 at 10:33 AM. Reason: typo
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07-20-2015, 11:48 AM	#2
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	Welcome! For starters, please show us a pic of the bike. It's tough to get a sense of it from your avatar. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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07-20-2015, 12:41 PM	#5
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I can't seem to get the image to display in a reasonable size. perhaps someone smarter than me can assist. __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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07-20-2015, 12:43 PM	#6
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	That's a really cool bike. It looks like it might be an OHC water-cooled engine. Can you show us the CDI? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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07-20-2015, 12:59 PM	#10
Weldangrind Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sardis, BC, Canada Posts: 25,977	I know it is water cooled; what I meant is that it looks like a water-cooled OHC engine. Most of the water cooled China bikes I've seen have been pushrod motors (at least the Honda clones). When you say it has a guarantee, do you mean there is warranty coverage on this bike? __________________ Weldangrind "I figure I'm well-prepared for coping with a bike that comes from the factory with unresolved issues and that rewards the self-reliant owner." - Buccaneer
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07-20-2015, 12:27 PM	#3
just a rider Join Date: Jul 2015 Posts: 10	images then http://imgur.com/dTkCNz6,HTMZV5h,mf8cwFM#0 i hope that helps
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07-20-2015, 01:02 PM	#15
Adjuster Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Deerfield Beach FL Posts: 1,410	If you open his image links then click on the pictures they open up very full size. 3 pictures total. Nice looking bike. /
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