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Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Lisbon, IA
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2022-1/2 Templar X 6sp review
1st post and all that...
Happy to have found the forum. Spent a couple months lurking prior to joining while researching chondas. Anyway, Settled on the newest version of the Templar-X for use on rural Iowa gravel. I ordered the bike from PowerSportsMax.com Shipping was quicker than expected, however, R+L carriers made an appointment to deliver on 8/22 but actually delivered on 8/19 when I was out of state for work. The spouse didn't know what to look for and accepted delivery. Not happy about that and if I would have been home I would have refused delivery. I now believe that what I actually received may have been somebody else's rejected delivery. It arrived in a beaten up cardboard box and bottom of crate bent up. It was NOT shrink wrapped, much of the internal packaging was intact but very beat up. It had no protective film on any of the decals. Damage in no particular order: Both sides of the outer cardboard and inner shipping cage had damage. Where the handle bar and front caliper was packed was bashed in. The front brake lever was bent, and master cylinder gouged. Starter button switch sticks engaged. The front caliper was scuffed and the rear brake foot lever was bent into the engine case. The exhaust header pipe bracket has a broken weld. The forks had not been fastened securely enough and both fork tubes have dings and gouges in them. Missing front axle pinch bolts. On the other side of the bike/cage, the front wheel had been pushed/shifted into the rear turn signal stalk causing it to split. The rear wheel rim had a significant gouge along the rim edge and into the tire. The handlebar pad cover is missing velcro and can't be attached. Once I completed assembly and started break in I found that the rear brake switch is bad and not activating the brake light and the Hi/low beam wires were reversed. Additionally, the owners manual is missing information for this new model and does not provide the wiring diagram that includes the lighting system. I had no problems with first start up other than the usual very lean settings. I pulled the carb without removing any body/seat/tank/exhaust (easy once you figure out how). Had to do the same thing as Thumper to get the bowl off. Shimmed needle, changed Main jet from 120 to 125 and Idle jet from 40 to 42 for now. Pulled the plug off the mixture screw and discovered it was around 1-1/4 turns out, currently set at 3 turns out. Further uncorking steps are to come. Other issues found so far include excessive chain stretch at around 50 miles, adjusted and now needs it again at 100 miles. Adjustment slot almost used up and will have to remove links. Chain upgrade will be ordered. LED "Headlight" is laughably useless. Hi/low beam doesn't matter, my sons moped has a better headlight ![]() I have contacted powersports max with these issues and photos and have heard exactly crickets since. Will try to add some more photos later. Last edited by IA_Grvlrnr; 09-11-2022 at 06:02 PM. |
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Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Lisbon, IA
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Join Date: Oct 2020
Location: Central VA
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Sorry to hear of the damages. It sadly seems that we either get lucky and the shipment is perfect or unlucky and get to tally the damage. But rest assured, PSM will take care of you and if any parts are not available will issue part related refunds. Make sure to check your spam folder as most of the emails from them wind up there. Look for MaxPro LLC.
Out of curiosity, which side did you remove the carb from? Im assuming throttle side but it looks so jumbled up in there
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Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Lisbon, IA
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Pulled carb from throttle side. Loosened clamps, popped off boots, removed cable/slide. Rotated carb to access choke attachment and unbolted from carb (14mm iirc). Removed fuel line from petcock and then was able to fish everything out through opening at frame/cylinder/head pipe. Installation was reverse, Hardest part was connecting intake boots back up. |
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Join Date: Nov 2020
Location: Northern Neck of Virginia.
Posts: 165
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I do not want to appear critical but are you claiming a new packaging crate cause that is all I can see barring a scratch on the back rim. What other damage was there to the bike itself. The difficulty here is where was the damage done at Powersports Max or by the transport carrier. Once the package leaves the supplier the carrier would be liable for damage and if you can prove that they caused the damage you would have to deal with the carriers insurance and good luck with that. But still you should expect Power Sport Max to assist you in sorting this out.
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Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Lisbon, IA
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![]() I am on the road again for 2 weeks for work and have limited connectivity and pc access where I am. Forums from a mobile phone is not the best either. |
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Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Lisbon, IA
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Location: Lisbon, IA
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Join Date: Mar 2023
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I still can't decide between the Xpro titan or the trailmaster TM31, my use will be 100% mud I don't intend to put a license plate on it and take it out on the road
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Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Ohio Valley
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I wonder if other chinese imported products suffer from the same lack of concern when it comes to packing and handling. I mean, when Walmart gets a big skid of chinese dvd players, do some have birthmarks?
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Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Kansas City
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You've got to be specific with vendors... I am working on a return to AliExpress, and FINALLY got indication of a reimbursement. I had to be real clear with them ( for their translation to Chinese). Not sure if would understand what birthmarks are.
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Join Date: Sep 2022
Location: Lisbon, IA
Posts: 24
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Templar start/run/off switch
Still no word from PSM/Xpro, have been regularly checking spam folder. I find it annoying that a company that has an ad on the forum acts this way. Looks like I am going to have to continue going down the road of finding "aftermarket" pieces to replace things. First item was the sticky starter switch.. The closest I could find a couple weeks ago was just a little wider/thicker.
Taiss 12v 7/8″ Universal Motorcycle Starter/Kill Push Button Switch SW-02 ASIN B08FHMXVYW on amazon. This switch is available from several sources. ![]() Got this installed a couple days ago. I did end up swapping all wiring over from the stock switch as the provided harness had wrong contact/pins and some different color and extra wires, and I didn't want to splice. Of course, after I received it I found what looks like a couple options for the exact same style as oem Templar-x. Couldn't find them previously. One looks like oem, including connector, for $8.99. Wish I would have found this one before I gutted and rewired the Taiss. It actually popped up when I was searching for something else. GOOFIT Two-Function 7/8" Handlebar Switch Button H054-048 ASIN B09JKG94B5 ![]() The other is for a Suron e-bike application that looks like it could be repurposed...... for $20.99 ![]() Switch Assembly for Sur-Ron S/X Electric Bike ![]()
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2022.5 X-pro Templar-X 6 speed undergoing break-in. 130 main, 42 idle, shimmed needle .042", 2.5 turns out mixture. 142T rear sprocket. CAT delete "kit". Modified starter interlock. 2022 Pioneer SHNG - SSR XF250. Sigma Jet Kit, Muffler & Air inject delete. |
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