Another Magician 250 sprocket question--

spiritfeather · 04-03-2017, 08:47 PM

Any you Magician owners took a look at the mounting on your rear sprocket? Six-bolt cush-drive bushings they call them I think. Just curious---I've been searching to see if there are any replacements anywhere. Looks like a rare beast at the moment. My bike's brand new so not a problem now, but in days past I've worn out a bunch of sprockets on an old Yamaha. These on the Magician look weird----

spiritfeather · 05-11-2017, 01:01 PM

Update on Magician sprockets---after searching the 'net and finding nothing--I called RPS. They have them, no problems with availability. Also, the rear brakes on mine suck, but there are several brands of good brake pads available for Yamaha bikes. Looks like parts to keep a Magician going for a long time are readily available.

linemanxxlog · 05-11-2017, 01:24 PM

I hadn't looked at and/or thought about it yet. But, I appreciate the info. There isn't as many of us magician guys on here so any info on it is always nice.

Megadan · 05-11-2017, 02:46 PM

I don't have a Magician, but if you can measure the bolt circle diameter and the center hole diameter of one of the rear sprockets it shouldn't make it too hard to track one down.

Megadan · 05-11-2017, 07:05 PM

That would be rather unecessary considering there are likely off the shelf sprockets that can be used. These bikes are clones, and usually the parts generally can interchange to some degree. Sprockets especially.

Chief Smokey · 09-29-2019, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Megadan

That would be rather unecessary considering there are likely off the shelf sprockets that can be used. These bikes are clones, and usually the parts generally can interchange to some degree. Sprockets especially.

No it's not an off the shelf sprocket.

Shortlegrider · 05-23-2017, 08:04 AM

there is a company called sprocket specialist in California, in the past I have sent them a sprocket for a template and they made almost any teeth size.

culcune · 05-23-2017, 08:41 AM

When I needed a sprocket for my TMEC 200, since they used, for some odd reason, a few different Euro bike sprockets, as opposed to what most every other endure uses--Honda XL185 sprockets, I ended up ordering from a shop in the UK who agreed to send me one (it took a few shops to find the one!). It was easier and less cost than ordering direct from JT Sprockets' US affiliate (it was a JT sprocket). If you can figure out which JT the Trickster uses, email these guys http://www.urbanbike.co.uk/ and see how much it would cost. They came through for me!

culcune · 05-23-2017, 08:47 AM

Evidently JT does not have a sprocket available as of yet. Custom it might be!

http://www.jtsprockets.com/catalogue/model/2546

9fingers · 09-05-2017, 06:52 PM

hi im new here. i just bought a magician and want a 40-42 rear sprocket for mine. anyone got a link where i can just buy one?

culcune · 09-05-2017, 07:27 PM

I just looked again at the JT catalog, and still states 'TBA' so I am guessing you might want to double check with RPS to see if they really have them or just ones for the Hawk. The Magician is going to be an 'oddball' bike like my TMEC 200 enduro was.

Megadan · 09-06-2017, 12:53 AM

Rear sprockets for the Yamaha Tricker seem to be the right one, but it was not a US market bike, so aprockets have to be bought from overseas. You can find them in Europe, but they arent cheap.

culcune · 09-06-2017, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Megadan

Rear sprockets for the Yamaha Tricker seem to be the right one, but it was not a US market bike, so aprockets have to be bought from overseas. You can find them in Europe, but they arent cheap.

Who, besides JT, has them? I found out that the TMEC 200 uses an oddball hub, and I ordered a JT sprocket from a retail store in the UK who was pretty much the only retailer who would ship internationally. It was actually cheaper and less complicated than ordering from JT's US subsidiary as I did contact them as well. But, JT's site states that the rear sprockets are 'TBA' so if there is another brand, perhaps it could be ordered from the same store in the UK that I bought mine from?

culcune · 09-06-2017, 12:50 PM

Okay...found an aftermarket dealer in Japan with sprockets for the Tricker. This one seemed be the closest to being useful (as in--made for the street rather than climbing trees) at 42 teeth. https://japan.webike.net/products/23195094.html

Of course, the 'trick' (yes, pun intended) to a front sprocket, which is highly recommended to change for better street use (17 tooth is my recommendation, although I am not sure if the Magician/Hawk engine needs slight trimming to fit one, so you might be stuck with a 16) is to use the same one that the Hawk uses since the engine is Honda-based, NOT Yamaha. Those are cheap and plentiful all over the US on Ebay and Amazon.

This was the page from Webike which shows a few countersprockets (ignore those for the reason I mentioned) and a couple other rear sprockets which seem very expensive. The other reasonably priced 45 tooth states that something else is needed to work with the Tricker, so the 42 would probably do the 'trick' (couldn't resist

).

https://japan.webike.net/ps/#!p.m=844&p.c=1152&p.sk=1

9fingers · 09-09-2017, 08:13 PM

ok i might just look for a yamaha tricker sprocket from europe for now. but i will post the sprocket dimensions later. thanks guys.

04-03-2017, 08:47 PM	#1
spiritfeather Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 12	Another Magician 250 sprocket question-- Any you Magician owners took a look at the mounting on your rear sprocket? Six-bolt cush-drive bushings they call them I think. Just curious---I've been searching to see if there are any replacements anywhere. Looks like a rare beast at the moment. My bike's brand new so not a problem now, but in days past I've worn out a bunch of sprockets on an old Yamaha. These on the Magician look weird----
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05-23-2017, 08:41 AM	#8
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,056	When I needed a sprocket for my TMEC 200, since they used, for some odd reason, a few different Euro bike sprockets, as opposed to what most every other endure uses--Honda XL185 sprockets, I ended up ordering from a shop in the UK who agreed to send me one (it took a few shops to find the one!). It was easier and less cost than ordering direct from JT Sprockets' US affiliate (it was a JT sprocket). If you can figure out which JT the Trickster uses, email these guys http://www.urbanbike.co.uk/ and see how much it would cost. They came through for me! __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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05-23-2017, 08:47 AM	#9
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,056	Evidently JT does not have a sprocket available as of yet. Custom it might be! http://www.jtsprockets.com/catalogue/model/2546 __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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09-05-2017, 07:27 PM	#11
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,056	I just looked again at the JT catalog, and still states 'TBA' so I am guessing you might want to double check with RPS to see if they really have them or just ones for the Hawk. The Magician is going to be an 'oddball' bike like my TMEC 200 enduro was. __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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09-06-2017, 12:53 AM	#12
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 8,110	Rear sprockets for the Yamaha Tricker seem to be the right one, but it was not a US market bike, so aprockets have to be bought from overseas. You can find them in Europe, but they arent cheap. __________________ Hawk Information and Resource guide: http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20331 2018 Hawk 250 - Full Mod list here. http://www.chinariders.net/showpost....62&postcount=1 2024 Royal Enfield Shotgun 650 https://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=34124
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05-11-2017, 01:01 PM	#2
spiritfeather Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 12	Update on Magician sprockets---after searching the 'net and finding nothing--I called RPS. They have them, no problems with availability. Also, the rear brakes on mine suck, but there are several brands of good brake pads available for Yamaha bikes. Looks like parts to keep a Magician going for a long time are readily available.
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05-11-2017, 01:24 PM	#3
linemanxxlog Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Kansas Posts: 31	I hadn't looked at and/or thought about it yet. But, I appreciate the info. There isn't as many of us magician guys on here so any info on it is always nice.
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05-11-2017, 02:46 PM	#4
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 8,110	I don't have a Magician, but if you can measure the bolt circle diameter and the center hole diameter of one of the rear sprockets it shouldn't make it too hard to track one down.
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05-11-2017, 07:05 PM	#5
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 8,110	That would be rather unecessary considering there are likely off the shelf sprockets that can be used. These bikes are clones, and usually the parts generally can interchange to some degree. Sprockets especially.
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05-23-2017, 08:04 AM	#7
Shortlegrider Join Date: May 2017 Location: new hapmshire Posts: 20	there is a company called sprocket specialist in California, in the past I have sent them a sprocket for a template and they made almost any teeth size.
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09-05-2017, 06:52 PM	#10
9fingers Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Maine Posts: 5	hi im new here. i just bought a magician and want a 40-42 rear sprocket for mine. anyone got a link where i can just buy one?
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09-06-2017, 12:50 PM	#14
culcune Join Date: May 2006 Location: Yuma, Arizona Posts: 9,056	Okay...found an aftermarket dealer in Japan with sprockets for the Tricker. This one seemed be the closest to being useful (as in--made for the street rather than climbing trees) at 42 teeth. https://japan.webike.net/products/23195094.html Of course, the 'trick' (yes, pun intended) to a front sprocket, which is highly recommended to change for better street use (17 tooth is my recommendation, although I am not sure if the Magician/Hawk engine needs slight trimming to fit one, so you might be stuck with a 16) is to use the same one that the Hawk uses since the engine is Honda-based, NOT Yamaha. Those are cheap and plentiful all over the US on Ebay and Amazon. This was the page from Webike which shows a few countersprockets (ignore those for the reason I mentioned) and a couple other rear sprockets which seem very expensive. The other reasonably priced 45 tooth states that something else is needed to work with the Tricker, so the 42 would probably do the 'trick' (couldn't resist ). https://japan.webike.net/ps/#!p.m=844&p.c=1152&p.sk=1 __________________ "They say that life's a carousel, spinning fast you got to ride it well..." TGB Delivery Scooter 150 TMEC 200 Enduro--carcass is sadly rotting in the backyard
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09-09-2017, 08:13 PM	#15
9fingers Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Maine Posts: 5	ok i might just look for a yamaha tricker sprocket from europe for now. but i will post the sprocket dimensions later. thanks guys.
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