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Join Date: Mar 2022
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CARB approved sites
Hey all,
I'm pretty new here but I recently got into bikes and since I live in California I've seen a lot of bikes that either say not CARB approved or don't list the information at all. Are there preferred verified online dealers that have a CARB-approved section on their sites? |
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Join Date: Oct 2016
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The easiest way to check would be through the EPA certifications. https://www.epa.gov/system/files/doc...6-present.xlsx
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Join Date: Mar 2022
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I was looking at EPA certification but it appears that CARB standards are different and more strict. I found a lot of bikes that are DOT & EPA compliant but not CARB approved
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If you look in the Sales Location column you will see if it's 49s or 50s approved. Some will state 49s+CA. If it's 49s then its not CA approved.
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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Venom https://www.venommotorsportsusa.com/ has a CARB section (https://www.venommotorsportsusa.com/...ed-motorcycles) and Powersportsmax.com mentions whether a bike is CARB legal or not.
Boom/Baodiao has several California CARB bikes (they are a manufacturer/distributor and don't sell bikes directly to consumers but Venom sells their bikes and a few are listed). They don't mention it on their site, but on the EPA/DOT spreadsheet, their models are listed as being '50 state' legal. The two dual-sports will be available in the next couple months. http://www.baodiaomt.com/MOTORCYCLE_SCOOTER_BIKE/ The CT70 clone is CARB legal and was distributed by Amigo Motorsports and sold as the 'Amigo Rocky 125'. https://www.bobcatsmotorsports.com/ sells them. https://www.bobcatsmotorsports.com/category_s/323.htm
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Join Date: Mar 2022
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Thanks a bunch! I was looking at Venoms CARB section but I'll check out the other links too
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Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Volcano, Ca
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Take it from a CA guy who's been down this path numerous times with China bikes. Many sites twist the truth. They may say their bike is CARB Approved....but only for off road use, either red or green sticker, even if it's a fully lit enduro-style bike. I would suggest contacting the site directly and finding out if the bike can be plated for the street.
To the best of my knowledge, only the CSC bikes and the SSR XF250 are plateable for the street. If that's changed, I'm unaware.
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Join Date: Mar 2022
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Venom Motorsports emailed back and assured that all bikes in the CARB approved section are CA street legal. But I definitely understand what you're saying. Some sites have a CA legal section and then on the product page say not CARB approved; can get frustrating to find out what I can and can't own here
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Location: Volcano, Ca
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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There will be a Boom/Baodiao dual-sport or dual-sports (their site shows two models) that use the same 223 EFI engine as the cruiser and sport bike that Venom sells. They are apparently available in April according to Pete from Kronik Racing, and they are mentioned on their 2021 CARB certification https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/sites/default..._223_1d0_h.pdf
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Join Date: Mar 2022
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Yep, everything is going to have to be fuel injected from 2022 going forward, even for dirt/pit bikes. The Boom/Baodiao BD250-5, 6, & 7 are already out on Venom Motorsports, and I think the 2, 3, & 11 are coming soon. It looks like not a lot of bikes have been approved since July 1, 2021 for the 2022 model year
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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They have a couple of the Boom/Baodiao bikes at Powersportsmax, but they have the 'Not legal in California' disclaimer by those bikes for some reason. Unless, and I have seen it on the EPA/DOT site where a bike has a dual-certification; both 49-state and a 50-state certificate for the feds (they do mention California bikes on the EPA/DOT site which seems to be for informational use). I don't recall how the 'Boom' bikes were listed (some bikes on the EPA/DOT site just show '50-state' for the bikes that are legal everywhere). Okay, just checked the EPA/DOT site and all their models are on one certification (they use the same EFI 223cc engine across all their bike-types) and they are certified as '50-state'. Maybe the Powersportsmax bikes are older models before they obtained '50-state' and CARB certification?
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Join Date: Mar 2022
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Thanks for the investigation! To my understanding the laws changed, starting Jan 1, 2022 for model year 2022 going forward all bikes (both street and dirt) must have some form of fuel injection. So no carburated bikes may be sold in CA now, unless they are model year 2021 or earlier. If I understand it right you can still buy new carburated bikes like right now as long as the model year is before 2021. This was done so people who already own those bikes can still sell them on the used market and products they already paid thousands of $ for aren't illegal overnight. If someone knows better please correct me, ride safe y'all
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