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Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Earth, USA
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Templar X 250
Anyone on here heard of this bike? Powersports Max has them listed for around 1750, and at a quick glance, they are a pretty decent looking ride. To me, they are new to the crowd, but, for all I know they have been floating around a bit. Curious to know what you guys may know. The Suzuki style shrouds on the tank scream second generation RMZ 250, which always a plus with me
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Join Date: May 2015
Location: Houston area
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I have not heard of them, but it comes with a Zong 19hp engine. Could be a great bike.
https://www.powersportsmax.com/produ...ducts_id/23812
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Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: De Soto, MO
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Looks promising. Has all the pieces for street legality. Just need to see if your state recognizes it for the street.
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Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Earth, USA
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Oh I’m not going to take the leap of faith on it…. I’d just never seen it before, and it does have some promising bits about it. It really has a “Nicot” look too it, which is who builds the new Orion 250. The hot start lever, or at least it appears to be, on the clutch side has me scratching my head. Or possibly it’s the choke?
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Yuma, Arizona
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But, Powersportsmax has a lot of connections to factories in China, so my guess the Titan was made either in the same factory or used the same parts that were pieced together and badged as an 'X-Pro'. Their power in the industry is evidenced by them renaming many different bikes with the 'X-Pro' brand, such as the Hawk, and the Vader. I think this new bike is an updated version of the Titan and may or may not be from the same OEM as the Orion, but at least uses many of the same parts. The Chinese motorcycle industry is made up of many 'manufacturers' who oftentimes will buy their parts from a few sources and piece together bikes. The scooter side of it is a good example of this. In other words, the 'manufacture' puts the bikes together from parts it obtained from suppliers (the same suppliers other manufacturers use), has them EPA certified and thus legitimizes the 'manufacturer' as its own identity, even though it might have pieced together scooters from the same suppliers, and many scooters look the same. I am sure the Templar is a quality bike, along the same lines as owners of the Titan dirt bikes and dual-sports have attested to, so should be worth a look as long as one is able to plate them in their particular state.
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Join Date: Oct 2021
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I like the suspension and engine upgrades, but they list it as "off-road only." I'm guessing that means the MCO says "dirt bike" and it doesn't have an FMVSS label. Usually, these "off road" bikes don't have EPA certification, but the listing for that bike says it is EPA approved.
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Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Kansas City
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Nice catch ExMxer
Maybe they haven't paid the fees and gone through the process of getting it approved for road use. There must be an administrative process to get EPA approval, if nothing else. I do not see a cat bulb (maybe one in the exhaust, but I doubt it). I would have snagged one for my son if available when we made the mistake of getting the TBR7 But the list of highend components is defintitely impressive. -that engine ![]() -engine guard plate! -decent footpegs -roller throttle ass'y -short shifter with a real folding tip and a tucked in brake lever!!?! -21"/18" wheels with knobbies -adjustable USD forks!?!? -adjustable KKE rear shock -and is that a compression release lever for easy starting on the left hand grip?!?!! -a kill switch (not high end, but good to have) -even the seat looks more substantial than most enduros! |
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Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Earth, USA
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I’ve done some digging on this thing (day off today), and I can’t find crap. I cannot find an oem, but man this thing screams Nicot to me. It is impressive, but I’d be rather scared to buy one from those guys. Pretty rough dealings several folks have had. But that bike next to the Orion, sure looks like a close cousin………
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Join Date: Feb 2021
Location: Kansas City
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I would buy one, just to test the theory. I can afford it, but can't get away with it at the moment -too many toys in the garage as it is ![]() And besides, my real goal is to acquire a GPX TSE250 so I am saving up my mojo for that ![]() By the way, I created a set of postable jpg from the photos on the web page to post on the forum in this thread, but then noticed a scary little warning that the pics are the property of powersportsmax, and any use will be fully prosecuted (or something like that). |
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Join Date: Mar 2022
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Newbie here. I've been researching this bike for a couple of days. For whatever reason yesterday they dropped the price by $50 so I placed my order today. From what I can see this is a Zongshen 250 FMM motor. Seems extremely popular in Russia. If you can stand to use Google translate on some YouTube videos there's quite a bit of information on the engine. Appears to also be the same engine in the Orion rbx250l only with a five-speed transmission and not counter balanced. EGL A16 Pro has lots of similarities to frame and suspension...
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Join Date: Mar 2022
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I'm glad you posted the question about this bike. Will be fun to see exactly what I've really bought. Its curiosity only that I purchased the bike. How is it possible to have a spec sheet as lengthy for under 2k... Will post plenty of pics and information...
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Join Date: Sep 2021
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I am guessing that with Powersportmax's connections, this bike is made by the same OEM as the Orion bikes (hence it looks like the RXB) but Powersportsmax did not spec it out with all the same bits as the Orion.
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