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Old 07-06-2014, 04:26 PM   #1
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Identifying abused bike

Hello,
I received an Enduro that has much damage to most of the plastic, lights, console, exhaust, wiring etc. These clone type bikes are new to me and here we are trying to identify this poor bike so I can get to work on it and maybe have it for the ranch here.

I think it is a GY200 and possibly 2008, but that's as far as I can go with searches here, pictures and my knowledge of these. The motor is stamped HS163FML/080F0242 and the vin starts with LWGYCML1...

Thanks for any direction, I am really starting from scratch. Thanks for the info!

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Old 07-06-2014, 06:31 PM   #2
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Picture of the poor beast

You know some of the bikes found used are so clean and wonderful with hardly any repair fun. This bike's fun factor in that regard is off the scale. Its not a bad little bike, it just needs someone to love it.

Hopefully I did the picture right. At this point most of the damage seems to be on the outside, I'll check inside the carb while parts are being shipped. I might just change the oil and clean the screen too.

Thanks again for the help!
Jim
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Old 07-06-2014, 08:03 PM   #3
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http://www.redcatonline.com/body-pla...t-p-28009.html This should be the plastic set for it . likely hs stands for hisun factory http://hsmotos.com/detail.aspx?tgid=135


 
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Old 07-06-2014, 08:39 PM   #4
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Well at least this bike started off being shiny. Thanks for the link to the plastic set! I'll keep those in mind once I am there, indeed alllll the plastic pieces are shot and then some.

Does the VIN# tell me anything?
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Old 07-06-2014, 09:32 PM   #5
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heres the manufacturer: Chongqing Huansong Industries Group Co
Address: Shiyan Industrial Park
Zip / Country 400052 China
Product Type: Motorcycle, ATV

and you are correct, its an 08 model... thats all i could find from the vin...


 
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Old 07-06-2014, 09:46 PM   #6
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Awesome! I searched for the VIN and came up with a russian 4 cylinder car! Well thanks, I can start searching for parts now. I've already stripped everything off and am ready to start.

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Old 07-06-2014, 10:20 PM   #7
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Chinese calls these as "Zongshen style" (zs125gy)
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"163FML" (CG200) had minor difference in different brands:
Zongshen http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=36115235290 63.5/76.0
Lifan http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=36366472868 63.5/75.85
Loncin http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=36309545428 63.0/76.0
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Old 07-07-2014, 12:03 AM   #8
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Getting very close

Ok so I think I'm starting to see what it's name is: 2008 Zongshen GY200-_______ <-- Is there a number here like 5 or 8 or 9? And is this how I search for parts is by this name?

And I've read so much over the last couple of days that I could've sworn there is something special about the Zongshen engine type. Right? Or maybe it's tires...I'll do a search but it seems to stand out in my memory...a little.

I also think I read a couple of times that the CG125 service manual is what I should be obtaining when working on this engine? Is there something else that is published more recently than 1994 that I'm not finding? Or is the Haynes 1994 one the one to get?

And now a search for parts lists. There seem to be a few hoses, wires, case covers and who knows what else missing. Are there parts schematics out there that would show a whole one (a whole bike)? I'm not that experienced to know yet what's important or what can stay missing on these. My long goal is to strip all the paved road worthiness off of it and it'll live the rest of it's life in the brush off-road.

Well that's a chunk of questions for the experts. I'm going to start doing general part searches to see what I'm dealing with so far from the obvious things missing--battery, battery box, spark plug wire/coil, gas cap, exhaust and there's prolly more I haven't even discovered yet.

Thanks! The excitement is building over here! I'm off to do more searching
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Old 07-07-2014, 05:39 PM   #9
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Chinese calls these as "Zongshen style" (zs125gy)
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"163FML" (CG200) had minor difference in different brands:
Zongshen http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=36115235290 63.5/76.0
Lifan http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=36366472868 63.5/75.85
Loncin http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=36309545428 63.0/76.0
How could you tell this is a Zongshen? By the picture or Vin or something?


 
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Old 07-07-2014, 09:02 PM   #10
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How could you tell this is a Zongshen? By the picture or Vin or something?
I said "style" (ie. Similar in body shape / basic components. ZS style 宗申"款" = Honda clone/ mono shock/ similar plastics) ONLY. In US u can say it's a GY2 style.
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Other style "款" such as 白菜款 (XL125S clones) http://s.taobao.com/search?spm=a230r...yes#J_relative , 五羊款 (GL145 clones/ Herder loves this style…) http://s.taobao.com/search?initiativ...1%F2%BF%EE+150
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I said "style" (ie. Similar in body shape / basic components. ZS style 宗申"款" = Honda clone/ mono shock/ similar plastics) ONLY. In US u can say it's a GY2 style.
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Other style "款" such as 白菜款 (XL125S clones) http://s.taobao.com/search?spm=a230r...yes#J_relative , 五羊款 (GL145 clones/ Herder loves this style…) http://s.taobao.com/search?initiativ...1%F2%BF%EE+150
Wahoo I finally understand that now! Heh I think with this site's counseling I am good to go--maybe.

And thank you for the links but I can't read the taobao website. Can it be translated? I am only able to handle English fairly well and butcher Spanish also fairly well.

Thanks again!
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Old 07-07-2014, 12:59 AM   #12
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Welcome to these forums, Jim. We are glad you joined us.

Zongshen makes good engines. My Zongshen 200GY-2 is atypical because it employs a clone of a Yamaha engine, has a 15-inch rear wheel, and an 18-inch front wheel. Your bike has the typical clone of a Honda engine, and the conventional, dual sport wheels.
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Old 07-07-2014, 08:13 AM   #13
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If you type in cg125 manual pdf in google search it'll be a pdf manual for the engine. Its a complete repair manual for the motor can't wait to see life brought back into it


 
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Old 07-07-2014, 08:18 AM   #14
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Also a lot of the parts for a lifan 200gy might fit your bike as it looks similar to it I'm sure the experts will either confirm or deny this


 
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Old 07-07-2014, 09:54 AM   #15
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CG125 manual search

Ok good I might be on the right track. I am finding this one for free:
http://die-kleinkraftrad-ig.de/wisse...itungcg125.pdf -which is the 'published in 1994' version.

And the same edition for download in other places too. Is this the one? I note that there are listings for the official book that cover through 2007, maybe this is the edition I need? I found the 'through 2007' by Jeremy Churchill edition on Amazon but not for free. Am I missing it somewhere else?

Woohoo I am getting closer every day!! Thanks!
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