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02-20-2020, 04:51 AM | #1 |
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Need help on how to do wheelies.
I see YouTube videos and people on here talking about riding wheelies on their hawk 250s. I can not get my front end off the ground. No matter how hard I dump the clutch and pull..nothing.
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02-20-2020, 04:57 AM | #2 |
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Takes practice. On low powered bikes, you got to help it. Stand up slightly, jerk the throttle, sit down hard near the back of the seat, hang on. This should get you about 3 to 6 inches of wheelie for about 1 second. Keep at it and you will be like Doug Domokos in no time.
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02-20-2020, 07:54 AM | #3 |
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you may need to adjust the clutch if it is slipping badly off the line, my roketa can pop the front end up no problem, but when i bought it (second hand) i rebuilt the clutch with heavy springs, along with converted it from cable actuated to hydraulic... makes a world of difference in the feel for clutching up wheelies in 1st... i couldnt tell you where i found the heavy springs anymore though, that was almost 7 yrs ago now...LOL
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02-20-2020, 08:03 AM | #4 |
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With the stock 15/50 sprockets on the Hawk all I did was give it some throttle while shifting my weight to the rear and pulling up on the handle bars. I could pull wheelies on command. With taller gearing it took a little more effort.
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02-20-2020, 08:20 AM | #5 |
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The main thing for me to overcome was to resist shifting my weight forward. Sit a lil more towards the back, don't lean forward. The front on the Brozz comes up a bit with a swift throttle pull in 1st.
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02-20-2020, 04:54 PM | #6 |
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1) increase health insurance. 2) invite friends family and co workers to watch. 3) put in gear and rev the engine really hi 4) pop the clutch Please view this actual chinese training video
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02-20-2020, 05:21 PM | #7 |
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You forgot "Here Hold My Beer" lol
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02-20-2020, 06:32 PM | #8 |
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All joking aside, step 1 is too have all your gear on including gloves. Step 2, become very familiar with your rear brake and make sure it's properly adjusted because it can save your butt if you get too high/over center. Step 3 watch YouTube videos, there's a guy that has a whole series on riding wheelies and atleast one episode is just for under powered bikes.
I learned many years ago on a XR80 that was very heavy and under powered. You wanna be 1st gear and barely moving and sitting towards the rear of the seat. As you pop the clutch and twist the throttle throw your weight back while yanking up on the handlebars. And don't try to be a pro right off the bat. Work on seeing how long you can sustain a small wheelie first, the rest will come natural later. Hitting a small bump will help with the process. I weigh 260lbs and my Hawk will wheelie in first every time and sometimes in second if I have a bump to launch from. It's also easier to wheelie up hill. My driveway is steep and has a formidable bump halfway up it and I have no problem riding a wheelie up the second half in second gear (and it's a long driveway). Or take the easy route and buy a 2 stroke.
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02-21-2020, 04:04 AM | #9 |
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Wow that's for all the great advice. Just reading your guguys replies made me realize things I'm already doing wrong. Also the part about the clutch has me thinking also. To have a stronger grabbing clutch do I need better plates or spring or both??
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02-21-2020, 07:22 AM | #10 |
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I rebuilt mine with stronger springs because the original owner fried the clutch in about 600 miles, never changed the shipping oil out... clutch was toast, and the piston rings were stuck in the piston. I rebuilt the clutch and top end for those reasons. You should be fine on the stock clutch springs if your cable is set right, i only went the heavy duty route due to not exactly being a small guy...(6'2", 280#)
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02-21-2020, 12:15 PM | #12 |
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And that there is how it's done folks.
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02-22-2020, 05:18 AM | #13 |
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You don't even look like your having to pull up that hard or anything. You make it look easy. I'm gonna practice tomorrow and will report back. Thank you guys mean alot for the replies
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02-22-2020, 05:23 AM | #14 |
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Blip to flip.
(In a fairly rapid succession) give it a little bit of gas, turn the throttle off then yank it wide open. Works at least on more powerful streetbikes, your results may vary.
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02-22-2020, 07:49 PM | #15 |
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On very powerful bikes, just twist the throttle (aka power up wheelies lol). Works outstandingly well with my VFR. On these bikes, clutch drops and helping the bike with weight shifting, etc. It takes a lot of practice. I personally don't find entertainment in riding wheelies much, but it is a good skill to know how to lift the nose when riding off road, so it is worth practicing.
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