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05-21-2016, 08:30 PM | #1 |
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Hawk: make starter work when not in neutral
Has anyone already defeated the neutral safety? If so, care to share how?
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05-21-2016, 10:17 PM | #2 |
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Mine will start when its not in nuetral and the clutch pulled in, does yours not?
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05-21-2016, 11:30 PM | #3 |
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Every other bike I've owned either had no safety or it was tied to the clutch, not neutral. This is a first for me.
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05-22-2016, 12:43 AM | #4 |
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Hmmm.. i dont think im understanding correctly. Your saying your bike wont start if its in gear?
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05-22-2016, 01:20 AM | #5 | |
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I guess I'll have to trace it out myself, was hoping someone would be able to say which color wire I need to disconnect and connect to a constant power source. |
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05-22-2016, 01:22 AM | #6 | |
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I will mess around with mine tomorrow morning, is it possible a bad clutch switch would do this? Or maybe the wiring isn't connected properly? I could see if the bike doesn't know that the clutch is pulled in, it wouldn't let you start until its in neutral. Try shorting the two wires that attach to the clutch lever and see if it will start. Ill see what I can gather tomorrow from my bike. |
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05-21-2016, 10:56 PM | #7 |
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It was simple to do on my Bashan (WILL 200) and Kawasaki (KLR 650), however I never share this type of info with people for a few reasons...
1) it's already been covered several places all over the internet... and the biggest reason I encourage everyone else to 'also not give this kind of info' is... 2) I'm not about to get blamed/sued for any "safety switch bypass accident"... It's easy to do and the info is out there and just as easy to find... just apply the knowledge from one of the "big 4 brands" to your "China Bike" if you want to bypass those safety/annoyance switches.
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05-22-2016, 02:32 AM | #8 | |
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2) If you're afraid to post up a fix why bother posting up just to post a reason to not help? If I knew these bikes better I'd give an answer, but I just got into the China bike world. Tho many would think that all bikes are the same in this regard, they are not. Many bikes are wired so that the clutch/sidestand/gear position safeties are different and can't be bypassed in the same ways. |
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05-22-2016, 07:21 AM | #9 |
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Ancient Chinese saying goes something like this... "You only making an Ass out of yourself when you Ass-ume anything"
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05-22-2016, 01:15 AM | #10 |
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Typical E-start is like http://postimg.cc/image/xsmoa2093/
--- How to bypass, i won't tell the details...
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05-22-2016, 01:32 AM | #11 |
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or is there a relay to jumper?
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05-22-2016, 01:39 AM | #12 |
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Hopefully, this will be one of those "DUH" things.
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05-22-2016, 01:52 AM | #13 |
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Hopefully! Simple fixes are always the best. (I noticed mine were loose when I got it) Order doesnt matter.
These are the wires: |
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05-22-2016, 01:48 AM | #14 |
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well, screw waiting for tomorrow. Sure enough, there is a clutch switch and it is open no matter what, no continuity.
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05-22-2016, 01:56 AM | #15 | |
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I was thinking about ordering these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pair-All-7-8...3D172046665131 |
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