SSR Xf250 OR CSC TT250

mjs91882 · 05-12-2017, 01:44 AM

Anyone have thoughts on which is the better bike? Quality and performance wise. I have the money to purchase one of them in June and really could use some help from all you great knowledgeable friends. I have been leaning toward the TT250 but I have heard the Ssr xf250 is a pretty good bike. Some say the XF goes 75 mph and I hear the TT maxes out at 60. How's the build quality on both bikes. Thanks for the help!! Can't wait to share pictures!!

BlackBike · 05-12-2017, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by mjs91882

Anyone have thoughts on which is the better bike? Quality and performance wise. I have the money to purchase one of them in June and really could use some help from all you great knowledgeable friends. I have been leaning toward the TT250 but I have heard the Ssr xf250 is a pretty good bike. Some say the XF goes 75 mph and I hear the TT maxes out at 60. How's the build quality on both bikes. Thanks for the help!! Can't wait to share pictures!!

If you got the $ you should get the ssr. Better faster bike. If you cant make it on your own (which is the ssr) you better get the TT. Otherwise, plenty of help here in the community for the ssr. Go for it.

Get it from gokartsusa.com a little better support than most.

mjs91882 · 05-12-2017, 02:23 AM

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If you got the $ you should get the ssr. Better faster bike. If you cant make it on your own (which is the ssr) you better get the TT. Otherwise, plenty of help here in the community for the ssr. Go for it.

Get it from gokarts.com a little better support than most.

Are they pre crated or do we have to build them ourselves?

2LZ · 05-12-2017, 12:13 PM

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Are they pre crated or do we have to build them ourselves?

You get the SSR's assembled at dealers. Superior Powersports used to carry them but I haven't seem them there in a while.

mjs91882 · 05-12-2017, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ

You get the SSR's assembled at dealers. Superior Powersports used to carry them but I haven't seem them there in a while.

Thanks for your great input. I really appreciate it. Do you have any idea if parts are hard to come by for these machines? How is you Qlink to work on? Sounds like a excellent bike for my needs. Looking forward to checking one out soon.

mjs91882 · 05-12-2017, 03:43 AM

I found a used 2014 xf250 with 625 miles at a dealer for $2100.... Too much??

Megadan · 05-12-2017, 04:23 AM

My opinion is biased, but I have only ever had the pleasure of riding one of the two you are looking at. My friend has a 2016 XF250, and he let me ride it - which is what made me decide to get my Hawk. The XF250 is a great bike, just the right amount of power, will cruise at 60-65 all day without feeling like it will explode, although I think 1 or 2 up on the front sprocket, or two or three down out back would be better for more regular highway use. A part of me wishes I would have spent more and got one, but I am sure the hawk with a few tweaks will be more than fine for me (I will keep telling myself that lol).

I would say look around for sales, as it is a Holiday weekend. You might be able to get a brand new one for around 2700 bucks, if you decide to get the SSR that is.

culcune · 05-13-2017, 03:17 PM

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I would say look around for sales, as it is a Holiday weekend. You might be able to get a brand new one for around 2700 bucks, if you decide to get the SSR that is.

Our local Honda/Yamaha dealer picked up the SSR lineup recently and sure enough, the XF250 which I based my thread on the other week is STILL there, and listed at $2699 +'fees' fully assembled. I went over the bike (with my hands and eyes--I don't have a smart phone...nor even a dumb phone since I lost it) and it looks just as high quality as the Honda dirt bike parked next to it. They did not have an 'apples to apples' CRF250L or a dual-sport Yamaha, either, to compare it to, but the last time I sat on the CRF250L I remember the seat feeling quite narrow as compared to my TMEC 200, and less comfortable. The XF250 seat was a little narrow (again, as compared to my TMEC) and not as comfortable, but seemingly a little more comfortable than the CRF250L seat. The welds all look good, and it just seems to have inherent quality, which it better have at twice the price of a mail-order Hawk (okay, when they are on sale). Living in Yuma, which is quite literally half way between Phoenix and San Diego (about 175 miles either way) I could see myself hopping on the XF on Interstate 8 and riding either way. Okay, towards San Diego, there are about 2/3 of the way off-interstate routes which I would take through the mountains and parts of the desert, but I couldn't see myself going either way on the TMEC with as much confidence. In other words, whatever I would do theoretically on a CRF250L or Yamaha XT250 I would do on the XF250.

1cylinderwonder · 05-13-2017, 10:51 PM

I am wanting to pre-purchase a 1 or 2 tooth larger front sprocket for my new 2017 SSR XF250 when it arrives. Anyone know how many teeth are on the stock, from the factory, front sprocket. I want to be able to cruise a little faster at a lower, smoother, RPM when doing highway riding?
Second question, anyone know where would be a good location, online source, dealership, or parts store? Or is the front sprocket on the XF250 kind of a generic part that is a common fit for a lot of motorcycles and available most places.

Any suggestions on how many teeth can be added to the front sprocket without needing to cut or replace the stock chain? Or should I add teeth to the front sprocket, and at the same time subtract teeth from the rear sprocket?

humanbeing · 05-14-2017, 11:00 AM

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I am wanting to pre-purchase a 1 or 2 tooth...

Stock is 15-43 http://www.cmpo.co.uk/ | taobao tells something...
http://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=18922&page=2 F:JTF434 | R:JTR279 Why JT (made in Thailand) http://www.jtsprockets.com/ ? Cuz it's easy to find...

dh · 05-14-2017, 11:29 AM

Thanks for finding that Spanish review. That's good to see the XF continues to get updated. EFI and a gas gauge would be pretty nice additions to this bike. I rely on my odometer and reserve and have only come close to running out of gas 1 time between Vegas and CA where gas stations are about 50 miles apart.

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Stock is 15-43 http://www.cmpo.co.uk/ | taobao tells something...
http://chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=18922&page=2 F:JTF434 | R:JTR279 Why JT (made in Thailand) http://www.jtsprockets.com/ ? Cuz it's easy to find...

dh · 05-14-2017, 11:38 AM

The JTF 434.16 adds 1 tooth up front and there is no need to cut the chain, especially if you wait a few hundred miles for the stock chain to stretch a little. The 16 tooth has worked well for me except for last week I went up 7,000 feet into the mountains with the wife 1 up and the bike got a workout. Although we got where we needed to go, I will definitely bring the 15 tooth and extra jets next time we go up.

ChopperCharles · 07-25-2024, 06:22 PM

Just FYI for anyone finding this thread so many years later, the XF250's motor is a clone of the Suzuki TU250 motor. It's light-years more modern than the TT250/Apollo/Hawk mill, and the TU250 was loved by many for its torquey fun (for a 250 street bike) motor.

I've seen the CSC TT250 up close and the SSR XF250 as well, and if I had the money I'd go for the XF250. That said, the XF250 has 18" rims front and rear, where the TT250 has a 21" up front. Suspension on the SSR is better tho. SSR has a lower seat height, CSC has more ground clearance. I know the specs say otherwise, but after having thrown a leg over both, the CSC is noticeably taller. Stock XF tires are better suited to off-road than the stock TT250 tires. XF looks chunky, almost like a TW200, and that is my aesthetic. XF250 also comes stock with a luggage rack, and a street-oriented supermoto variant with 17" rims and sporty rubber.

Both are carbed bikes. Both are putter-through-the-woods-at-a-slow-pace bikes. The better engine and better suspension of the XF, along with the lower seat height and chunky looks... well, that ticks all the boxes for me. But you may have other needs.

Charlie.

2LZ · 05-12-2017, 12:11 PM

I just posted in this thread, post 54.

http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...t=18922&page=4

mjs91882 · 05-14-2017, 05:22 AM

Is there a gas gauge we can bike that's aftermarket for this bike?

05-12-2017, 01:44 AM	#1
mjs91882 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Lake George Ny Posts: 249	SSR Xf250 OR CSC TT250 Anyone have thoughts on which is the better bike? Quality and performance wise. I have the money to purchase one of them in June and really could use some help from all you great knowledgeable friends. I have been leaning toward the TT250 but I have heard the Ssr xf250 is a pretty good bike. Some say the XF goes 75 mph and I hear the TT maxes out at 60. How's the build quality on both bikes. Thanks for the help!! Can't wait to share pictures!!
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05-13-2017, 10:51 PM	#9
1cylinderwonder Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Pismo Beach Posts: 387	How many teeth on the front sprocket of 2016 SSR XF250 I am wanting to pre-purchase a 1 or 2 tooth larger front sprocket for my new 2017 SSR XF250 when it arrives. Anyone know how many teeth are on the stock, from the factory, front sprocket. I want to be able to cruise a little faster at a lower, smoother, RPM when doing highway riding? Second question, anyone know where would be a good location, online source, dealership, or parts store? Or is the front sprocket on the XF250 kind of a generic part that is a common fit for a lot of motorcycles and available most places. Any suggestions on how many teeth can be added to the front sprocket without needing to cut or replace the stock chain? Or should I add teeth to the front sprocket, and at the same time subtract teeth from the rear sprocket?
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05-14-2017, 11:38 AM	#12
dh Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: NW Arkansas Posts: 454	The JTF 434.16 adds 1 tooth up front and there is no need to cut the chain, especially if you wait a few hundred miles for the stock chain to stretch a little. The 16 tooth has worked well for me except for last week I went up 7,000 feet into the mountains with the wife 1 up and the bike got a workout. Although we got where we needed to go, I will definitely bring the 15 tooth and extra jets next time we go up. __________________ 2013 SSR XF-250
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05-12-2017, 12:11 PM	#14
2LZ Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Volcano, Ca Posts: 7,112	I just posted in this thread, post 54. http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...t=18922&page=4 __________________ "Light a fire for a man, and you heat him for a day. Light a man on fire, and you heat him for the rest of his life." 2007 Suzuki DRZ400S (SM convert) 2009 Q Link XP 200 1967 BSA B25 250cc Starfire 2022 Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 2023 Royal Enfield Scram 411 1948 Royal Enfield Model G 350
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05-12-2017, 03:43 AM	#6
mjs91882 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Lake George Ny Posts: 249	I found a used 2014 xf250 with 625 miles at a dealer for $2100.... Too much??
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05-12-2017, 04:23 AM	#7
Megadan Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 8,110	My opinion is biased, but I have only ever had the pleasure of riding one of the two you are looking at. My friend has a 2016 XF250, and he let me ride it - which is what made me decide to get my Hawk. The XF250 is a great bike, just the right amount of power, will cruise at 60-65 all day without feeling like it will explode, although I think 1 or 2 up on the front sprocket, or two or three down out back would be better for more regular highway use. A part of me wishes I would have spent more and got one, but I am sure the hawk with a few tweaks will be more than fine for me (I will keep telling myself that lol). I would say look around for sales, as it is a Holiday weekend. You might be able to get a brand new one for around 2700 bucks, if you decide to get the SSR that is.
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07-25-2024, 06:22 PM	#13
ChopperCharles Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: RDU, NC Posts: 683	Just FYI for anyone finding this thread so many years later, the XF250's motor is a clone of the Suzuki TU250 motor. It's light-years more modern than the TT250/Apollo/Hawk mill, and the TU250 was loved by many for its torquey fun (for a 250 street bike) motor. I've seen the CSC TT250 up close and the SSR XF250 as well, and if I had the money I'd go for the XF250. That said, the XF250 has 18" rims front and rear, where the TT250 has a 21" up front. Suspension on the SSR is better tho. SSR has a lower seat height, CSC has more ground clearance. I know the specs say otherwise, but after having thrown a leg over both, the CSC is noticeably taller. Stock XF tires are better suited to off-road than the stock TT250 tires. XF looks chunky, almost like a TW200, and that is my aesthetic. XF250 also comes stock with a luggage rack, and a street-oriented supermoto variant with 17" rims and sporty rubber. Both are carbed bikes. Both are putter-through-the-woods-at-a-slow-pace bikes. The better engine and better suspension of the XF, along with the lower seat height and chunky looks... well, that ticks all the boxes for me. But you may have other needs. Charlie.
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05-14-2017, 05:22 AM	#15
mjs91882 Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Lake George Ny Posts: 249	Is there a gas gauge we can bike that's aftermarket for this bike?
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