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09-07-2023, 12:40 AM | #1 |
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Looking for a counterbalanced bike
Hi there, new to china bikes and it seems like the brozz is a good combination of features for myself. Are there any other bikes with a counterbalanced engine, carb, and decent suspension (upside forks and adjustable shocks)? Or maybe if anyone knows when the brozz might be back in stock. Thank you!
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09-07-2023, 08:30 AM | #3 |
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The Lifan KPX 250 is counterbalanced, EFI and true 250cc engine with 6 speeds. Way better bike than the Hawk, TBR7, Brozz or TT250.
https://www.venommotorsportsusa.com/...d-street-legal
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09-08-2023, 11:09 AM | #4 | |
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Edit: Just saw your video on the comparison between Hawk and KPX 250. First thing I noticed is you were comparing it to a carbed Hawk, which is not a true comparison. It should go up against the Hawk DLX, and I believe the Hawk DLX would still lose. No kick starter. That may be the deciding factor for me. May need to kick start a bike that has dead batt and no way to charge...
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09-08-2023, 11:32 AM | #5 | |
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Other than price, I think the Templar X would be the better choice if you are going to primarily ride trails. The bike is taller, has the adjustable suspension and knobby tires. I ride predominately on pavement, gravel, and forest service roads and wanted a bike I could do long trips on and that required less maintenance. The KPX has accomplished that so far.
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09-08-2023, 01:15 PM | #6 | |
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But I pop it in third, rolled it down the road by the house, popped the clutch, and it started instantly (half choke). No need for a starter unless you have a dead battery and can't get the bike to moderate decline.
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09-08-2023, 10:13 PM | #7 | |
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2. Cars do not have kick starters. If it's a manual tranny, you get it rolling, pop the clutch in third gear which spins the alternator, it fires up, off you go. A slight incline is helpful.
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09-07-2023, 10:09 AM | #8 |
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Never really looked at those Lifans. Is one really worth like a thousand dollars more than a Templar X? Not really seeing it in a brief look at the page you linked to.
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09-07-2023, 08:09 PM | #9 | |
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Learner bike, then move up after a year = pay less. Long-term ownership = BOCO (buy once, cry once)
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09-07-2023, 08:49 PM | #10 |
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I totally agree, it depends on your plans for it, and how long you intend to keep it.
I plan on keeping my Templar, and feel confident in the quality. I paid $1850. Never cried! BUT... The Bashan Storm has a really sweet counterbalanced Zongshen 167FMM "250". It is a 223cc 15hp engine. Don't count it out. Brozz and Recon too. The 172FMM is definitely more powerful, but the Storm and other Bashans are nice dual purpose bikes. I still "own" the Storm. My son left it behind when he went off to college last month. I am taking care of it for him. Needs "care" mostly in the form of periodic use
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09-09-2023, 12:08 PM | #12 |
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I was curious if you can push start with EFI, guess you can! That KPX 250 is a sweet bike!
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