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09-16-2020, 11:54 AM | #1 |
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KPM 200 Resource thread
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Found a place for replacement parts https://kpclubusa.com/collections/kpm-200 Okay, since the KPM 200 (LF200-3B) basically has an updated version of the NBf-2, and is a fairly new model, I decided to compile a resource list. Basically, instead of searching through my poorly named thread that most newcomers won't associate with what I'm doing, I'll make this one more appropriate. Anyway, with everything I've found so far, Here's what's what. Exhaust: I have confirmed that the KPMOTO-Club exhaust works on this bike. It's kinda tight, but not hard to install. Just don't be afraid to force a few things here and there. https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/A...im/refuge08-20 https://photos.app.goo.gl/inAND72b25C89mi48 https://photos.app.goo.gl/JfMxkxuEC9qkndKVA Engine: So, as I've stated before, the engine comes with two oil strainers. A coarse and fine strainer. But, if you don't think that's enough, I have found oil filters that may work: Fram ch6015-04 K&N KN-112 (confirmed fitment 3-12-2021) Oil filter cross reference: https://www.oilfilter-crossreference...rt/fram/ch6015 I haven't tested them yet, but I have 637 miles on the bike as of now. At 1200, I'll pop in the filter, and at 2400, I'll take it out and compare the first two oil change pictures. I'll also try and note any problems or power loss/gains I'm currently using Mobil 1 4T racing 10w-40. I'll use that same oil for the filter to strainer comparisons, then I'll switch to Castol 10w-50 4T Here's some pictures of the oil change, and filters that could possibly work. In the filter pictures, the KN-131 is just there for size comparison. https://photos.app.goo.gl/z3k1FxixEXpvHcJh8 https://photos.app.goo.gl/fC5YusCp8xQRUDyu9 K&N KN-112 filter install : Also, the engine did come with a Magnetic Drain plug, so no need to go looking for one, unless you just want a different color, or aluminum. Suspension: Ok, these DO NOT come with a shock tool. You'll have to find one on your own. Edit: I've found that the ER32 sized shock tool works. Here's the multi set I bought https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KD6RF8N...ing=UTF8&psc=1 The shock is pre-load adjustable and a two piece progressive spring setup. The fork is not adjustable. I really wish they'd fix the wording on that, because they make it sound like the fork is adjustable also. For us heavier guys, even with the pre-load maxed out, we'll still have too much sag. I'm trying to find measurements on the shock so I can see what can be removed from other bikes to fit, or for what size you will need for aftermarket shocks. I'll post links to any adjustment tools I find that can work. For the swingarm spools, they take M8 or 8MM spools. These are readily available just about everywhere. (NOTE: It seems as if the scrambler tires are no longer sold. The chinese market bikes may no longer be sold as scramblers anymore, and are more inline with what we get. tire links no longer work.) Tire sizes are 100/80/17 front and 130/70/17 rear. These are CST tires, and I have found the scrambler replacement tires here: /_yoycart_com/Product/625795363910 /_yoycart_com/Product/625795599556 The spoked wheels, if you want them, are here too: https://www.yoycart.com/Product/615123023887/ I've not found the street tires the American bikes get. I'll be stepping up to 110/70/17 and 140/70/17 bridgestone S20 tires, but I was able to find the original tire size at Motosport.com and Revzilla.com. Brakes: FA197HH front and FA629HH rear. The front brakes are for a ninja 300, so any Ninja 300 pads should work. The rears are for a Grom, so there's a good place to look also. Miscellaneous: Rear racks, backrests, shifter and brake levers, and all kinds of goodies are found under this search. https://www.yoycart.com/Search?Searc...00&catId=0&p=1 https://www.yoycart.com/Search?Searc...00&catId=0&p=1 UPDATE: Updated search results for yoyocart If you want a more cafe racer look: https://www.yoycart.com/Product/616455251080/ This list will be updated as more things are figured out. Please feel free to add any information you have to it also. Last edited by Falkon45; 01-11-2022 at 10:14 AM. Reason: 6/4/21 Updated search results |
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09-16-2020, 12:32 PM | #2 |
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Good info! Nice to have this all in one place.
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09-16-2020, 01:35 PM | #3 |
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Sticky, maybe?
'Dorito' from the 'Dorito and the Luchababre' YouTube channel had mentioned the engine being a slightly upgraded NBF engine. It makes sense because on the EPA/DOT certification, the KPM200 is on its own certificate whereas the KP/KPR200 are on a different certificate, and if I remember correctly, there is a 1 or 2 horsepower difference noted in the details on the EPA/DOT spreadsheet. Slightly off-topic, the 'New' KPMini 150 also has an upgraded 150cc engine as noted on its EPA/DOT certification. Also off-topic but Lifan related, American Lifan's Facebook page teased, once again, the KPT200 adv-style bike, which could be an interesting alternative as a trail bike (vs. the common dual-sports and the Zongshen RX3 which seems a little large and heavy as a trail bike) if American Lifan actually brings it in. We already know the engine is EPA/DOT certified in both NBF and NBF 2 form, so, American Lifan--yes please!
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10-14-2020, 01:43 AM | #5 |
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Yo Falkon45. Hello I'm new to the forum. I'm getting one of these KPM200's. From a local
dealer. When you ordered from Yoycart. Did you have to pay any import taxes. I want to order some accessories, for this bike from them. And was shipping expensive. |
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05-13-2021, 01:16 AM | #7 |
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For anyone looking at Yoycart I did attempt to order a few things. The shipping quote on the website estimates everything at 200 grams (just under half a pound). My order was estimated at $34 to ship by the website, so when the actual shipping quote based on actual weights came it at $250 I cancelled my order.
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04-16-2021, 04:48 PM | #8 |
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What size rear sprocket does this have?
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04-16-2021, 08:08 PM | #9 |
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It's a 49 tooth rear sprocket. I have found a 45 tooth sprocket. I haven't put it on order yet. I do have a new chain ready to go, though.
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07-22-2021, 11:44 PM | #10 |
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Did you ever throw the 45T on? Where did you get it from? Curious how it did with a 4 tooth drop. I'm interested in possibly changing mine out, but not sure what other rear sprockets are compatible. Any suggestions? Thanks!
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It doesn't take much. I thought it would take more than it did, seeing as I had to fill two radiator, plus the engine, but it didn't even empty the whole quart bottle. |
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Lol. You're probably okay. If it's not smoking or boiling over, you didn't ruin anything. These are still air cooled derivative engines. They probably left some air cooled properties in it to protect it. Just make sure you properly burped the system to have all the air out. Next time you change the oil, make sure it doesn't look like chocolate milk. If it does, you have a BHG (blown head gasket), and it need to come apart. I'm looking for gasket kits that can fit, actually. I want to do some head work, and kinda looking for a cam. Also, I'm looking for an aftermarket clutch, as I think mine is slipping. Heavy boy, plus being REALLY hard on the bike with clutchless shifts, hard full throttle acceleration almost all the time, and a few attempts at clutch dump wheelies takes it's toll. lol. Honestly, this thing is far more durable than expected. Whoever gets it next will have a lot of upgrades. lol. |
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08-20-2021, 12:56 AM | #14 |
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I hear ya, most of my work lately has been to my Royal Enfield so my KPM is lonely as well. I'll be curious to hear what you find as far as front and rear sprockets and if you have any luck with a cam. I'm a tinkerer by nature so I love to mod bikes when I can. It's the only thing I don't like about the KPM. There just isn't the support other bikes have. I'd be fine to run it at stock, but half the reason I buy bikes is to play with them when I can't ride them!
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05-14-2021, 10:08 AM | #15 |
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Is there a compatible shifter pedal for this bike? Mine is bent
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