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10-21-2018, 10:21 PM | #1 |
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Downshifting Hawk 250 Use Clutch?
Probably a dumb question but I always used my clutch to downshift in the past when I rode a 2 stroke 3 wheeler or four wheeler and was reading where on a four stroke it's not necessary to use clutch for downshifting so that's new to me was just wondering if that's true.
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10-21-2018, 11:06 PM | #2 |
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downshifting without clutch is harder than upshifting without using clutch. to downshift without clutch put a tiny bit of pressure on shifter and when bike is slow enough it will easily go down a gear. upshifting is done by just flicking the throttle off and shifting. works in cars to with synchronized gears. two stroke four stroke shouldnt matter
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10-22-2018, 04:16 AM | #3 |
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I've always just brought rev up and went in to the gear that can handle that moving-speed without hurting the engine.. If I even use engine braking..
Floating gears shifting is probably a bad idea on an engine and transmission that already has durability issues.. |
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10-22-2018, 07:49 AM | #5 |
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I've upshift without the clutch while cruising but not at WOT. Not saying it can't be done but I personally wouldn't down shifting without a clutch. If you can down shift it without having to force it and it does it smoothly it shouldn't be an issue.
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10-22-2018, 01:15 PM | #7 |
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You can both up and downshift without using the clutch, but it is not recommended. Like any dog style gearbox, it is possible without using a clutch, but it is very hard on the dogs causing a lot of wear and stress that can lead to broken dog teeth. The downshifting takes that and adds the very real risk of shock damage to the gear teeth and shafts along with the very real risk of the rear tire breaking traction if done at higher RPM
With all of that said, while in motion it is very easy to shift without pulling the clutch lever all the way in. Especially on upshifts, I often only use one or two fingers to just barely engage the clutch between gears. The gear spacing on these bikes is fairly wide, so speed shifting is somewhat pointless. Combine that with the fact that the gears and shafts in these motors are made to a low price point, meaning they are not that strong to begin with, and you run the risk of creating a very bad day for yourself.
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