New Templar X

AngryDick · Yesterday, 10:32 AM

Ok, so I been lurking on this forum for months and going back and forth on which bike to buy. I have narrowed it down to the Templar X and I have been reading all the threads on what needs to be done to it to make it usable and reliable but there is sooo many pages of stuff to read and the threads get sidetracked.
If you guys could be so kind as to just summarize a list of initial setup musts (like loctite and oil changing) and things that should be changed or upgraded for longevity and reliability (Like carb and chain, etc) it would be super appreciated!
I live in Idaho and will be using this bike for buzzing around the mountain dirt roads, paved roads and some single track for hunting near my cabin at about 4,000 - 7,000 feet.
I am 59 years old, 6'3" tall and weigh 240 lbs.
I am very mechanically inclined and have owned motorcycles, atv's, snowmobiles and UTV's my whole life.
I just can't justify spending over $6,000 on a name brand bike for this purpose and if I like the bike my son will probably get the same and I might get the wife a Hawk.
Thanks in advance!

**JerryHawk250** · Yesterday, 10:49 AM

Welcome aboard! Good choice on the Templar. You also might consider the Lifan KPX 250. It's a true 250cc with EFI and 6 speed transmission. It comes with a 2 year/12,000 mile part warranty. I've been really impressed with mine.
https://www.venommotorsportsusa.com/...-fuel-injected

AngryDick · Yesterday, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250

Welcome aboard! Good choice on the Templar. You also might consider the Lifan KPX 250. It's a true 250cc with EFI and 6 speed transmission. It comes with a 2 year/12,000 mile part warranty. I've been really impressed with mine.
https://www.venommotorsportsusa.com/...-fuel-injected

I looked at those and they seem like a smaller bike similar to the Hawk in size, but other than that they seem like maybe a better bike?

**JerryHawk250** · Yesterday, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by AngryDick

I looked at those and they seem like a smaller bike similar to the Hawk in size, but other than that they seem like maybe a better bike?

The KPX is a tall bike. Much taller than the Hawk. I've owned both. Here a comarision video.

Thumper · Yesterday, 10:53 AM

Based on your altitude, you may need to do NOTHING with the carburetor on the Temp X. But other stuff is pretty well summarized in the Templar Resource Guide (Sticky in the Dual Sports section).

You might consider saving a few hundred and get the M if it is still available, and if a 5 speed engine is OK. Otherwise get the TempX for the 6 speed and adjustable suspension. Both of them are 249cc ~20hp true 250s.

Other than that, post questions in your thread here as you run into them.

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Originally Posted by AngryDick

Ok, so I been lurking on this forum for months and going back and forth on which bike to buy. I have narrowed it down to the Templar X and I have been reading all the threads on what needs to be done to it to make it usable and reliable but there is sooo many pages of stuff to read and the threads get sidetracked.
If you guys could be so kind as to just summarize a list of initial setup musts (like loctite and oil changing) and things that should be changed or upgraded for longevity and reliability (Like carb and chain, etc) it would be super appreciated!
I live in Idaho and will be using this bike for buzzing around the mountain dirt roads, paved roads and some single track for hunting near my cabin at about 4,000 - 7,000 feet.
I am 59 years old, 6'3" tall and weigh 240 lbs.
I am very mechanically inclined and have owned motorcycles, atv's, snowmobiles and UTV's my whole life.
I just can't justify spending over $6,000 on a name brand bike for this purpose and if I like the bike my son will probably get the same and I might get the wife a Hawk.
Thanks in advance!

GypsyR · Yesterday, 01:19 PM

My '23 X was so tall I had to drop it a couple of inches to get on and off without jumping for it. (5'9") Depending on what pants I have on I still sometimes have a slight hitch swinging a leg over.
EFI was not a selling point for me as I don't have faith in them having all that dialed in just yet. EFI works but if you have problems a carb setup is a lot easier to troubleshoot and repair at this point.

Thumper · Yesterday, 02:09 PM

Lifan KPX is quiet, smooth and maybe 20 lbs heavier than the Templar X. The muffler is massive. Not sure where the extra weight is, but that muffler is part of it! KPX is a comfortable ride, very sedate and quiet.

Templar is raucus, less refined, less oriented towards dual sport than enduro. This makes it better off road bike, much better for single track.

If there is any way you can find an example of each of these bikes and witness them first hand, the differences will become clear.

Lowering the Temp X

https://www.chinariders.net/showpost...0&postcount=59

Shortening the kickstand

https://www.chinariders.net/showpost...9&postcount=63

Crossbar · Yesterday, 02:12 PM

New TempX here also. Got it mainly for road paved/gravel. Youll want to drop the rear sprocket teeth as its geared high factory. Ended up with 40T rear on mine.

AngryDick · Today, 10:22 AM

If I put on a Nibbi Carb what jet sizes should I start with at 4,000-7,000 ft?

Yesterday, 10:32 AM	#1
AngryDick Join Date: Jun 2024 Location: Idaho Posts: 3	New Templar X Ok, so I been lurking on this forum for months and going back and forth on which bike to buy. I have narrowed it down to the Templar X and I have been reading all the threads on what needs to be done to it to make it usable and reliable but there is sooo many pages of stuff to read and the threads get sidetracked. If you guys could be so kind as to just summarize a list of initial setup musts (like loctite and oil changing) and things that should be changed or upgraded for longevity and reliability (Like carb and chain, etc) it would be super appreciated! I live in Idaho and will be using this bike for buzzing around the mountain dirt roads, paved roads and some single track for hunting near my cabin at about 4,000 - 7,000 feet. I am 59 years old, 6'3" tall and weigh 240 lbs. I am very mechanically inclined and have owned motorcycles, atv's, snowmobiles and UTV's my whole life. I just can't justify spending over $6,000 on a name brand bike for this purpose and if I like the bike my son will probably get the same and I might get the wife a Hawk. Thanks in advance!
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Yesterday, 10:49 AM	#2
JerryHawk250 Moderator Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Houma, La. Posts: 11,585	Welcome aboard! Good choice on the Templar. You also might consider the Lifan KPX 250. It's a true 250cc with EFI and 6 speed transmission. It comes with a 2 year/12,000 mile part warranty. I've been really impressed with mine. https://www.venommotorsportsusa.com/...-fuel-injected __________________ 2023 Lifan Lycan 250 Chopper 2023 Venom Evader 2022 Lifan KPX250 2020 Kawasaki Vulcan S (Sold) 2004 Honda ST 1300 2016 Black Hawk 250 (sold) Keihin PE30 carb,125 main,38 slow.Pod filter,ported & decked head 10:1 CR,Direct Ignition Coil,15/40Sprockets,NGK DPR8EIX-9,De-Cat,Dual Oil Cooler,Digital Cluster 2016 Cazador180 XL 2014 Coolster150 JerryHawk250.com My YouTube Channel
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Yesterday, 01:19 PM	#6
GypsyR Join Date: Feb 2023 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 293	My '23 X was so tall I had to drop it a couple of inches to get on and off without jumping for it. (5'9") Depending on what pants I have on I still sometimes have a slight hitch swinging a leg over. EFI was not a selling point for me as I don't have faith in them having all that dialed in just yet. EFI works but if you have problems a carb setup is a lot easier to troubleshoot and repair at this point. __________________ 2023 Templar 250 X
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Yesterday, 02:09 PM	#7
Thumper Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: Kansas City Posts: 2,405	Lifan KPX is quiet, smooth and maybe 20 lbs heavier than the Templar X. The muffler is massive. Not sure where the extra weight is, but that muffler is part of it! KPX is a comfortable ride, very sedate and quiet. Templar is raucus, less refined, less oriented towards dual sport than enduro. This makes it better off road bike, much better for single track. If there is any way you can find an example of each of these bikes and witness them first hand, the differences will become clear. Lowering the Temp X https://www.chinariders.net/showpost...0&postcount=59 Shortening the kickstand https://www.chinariders.net/showpost...9&postcount=63 __________________ -2022 5 speed Templar X Orange, OEM 51T rear sprocket, 14T front sprocket -NOS 2020 KTM 250SX (2-stroke motocross), less than 10 hours on it
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Yesterday, 02:12 PM	#8
Crossbar Join Date: Jun 2024 Posts: 5	New TempX here also. Got it mainly for road paved/gravel. Youll want to drop the rear sprocket teeth as its geared high factory. Ended up with 40T rear on mine.
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Today, 10:22 AM	#9
AngryDick Join Date: Jun 2024 Location: Idaho Posts: 3	If I put on a Nibbi Carb what jet sizes should I start with at 4,000-7,000 ft?
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