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Old 06-15-2024, 09:42 PM   #1
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Why I bought the CFMoto 450MT

Cheeky title but also is the video title

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- Stock OEM battery, carburetor, spark plug still going strong
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Old 06-15-2024, 10:03 PM   #2
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I'm also tempted considerably by the CFMoto 450mt.


Seeing him pick it up from a side down and talking about his wife ok with pillion position. Makes me contemplate my first new bike acquisition and going into debt/payment plan for the opportunity. I don't have a wife but im not opposed to finding a girlfriend.



Im thankful for my XL185/cg250 restomod project and I would never sell it. But I think after the registration runs out next year I might have down payment saved up by then...


 
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Old Yesterday, 07:37 PM   #3
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2022 1/2 Templar X 250
- 6 gear model
- 13 Front / 40 Rear Sprockets
- #42 / #120 Jets
- 1mm thick nitrile O-ring needle shim (removed)
- Kenda K761 Dual Sport Tires
- Sedona Standard Thickness Inner Tubes
- Stock OEM battery, carburetor, spark plug still going strong
- https://youtu.be/dhAYEKH-jFQ

  1. Texas Pete's Templar X 250 Torque Specifications Sheet
  2. Texas Pete's Engine Displacement Calculator
  3. Texas Pete's Tire and Rim Compatibility


 
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Old Yesterday, 08:09 PM   #4
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This would have been an excellent all round bike, but if they could only make this bike between 33-50% lighter. I mean, nearly 400lbs is probably what most of these bikes will weigh, until the Chinese will start working with aluminum alloys and carbon fiber.

Sure, the bike may cost 30-50% more to make, however, the Chinese do pass those expenses on to the customer (unlike US factories which add a ton of money to the final sales price, just for the novelty).
I can't wait to see a 400cc engine in a 300lbs bike wet weight.
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Old Yesterday, 09:11 PM   #5
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Already here:

https://www.gpxmoto.com/fse450r

41hp 4 stroke, 100% Chinese made

Dry Weight: 261lbs (in the specifications section.
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Old Today, 12:19 AM   #6
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if you want the light bike the KTM 500EXC exists.


If you want the off-road reliability a single cylinder is cheaper/lighter/easier



I don't mind the weight for freeway/highway use. I like the 270* parallel twin...I have no intention of doing single track enduro riding. So dropping the bike and picking it up every 10min isn't my intended use.



I cant afford a Yamaha T7 and my RE Australian motorcycle license wont cover anything over 650cc.


For me the 450MT is a heavy unicorn. But I am ok with making compromises in life...especially when its half the price...


 
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Old Today, 04:55 AM   #7
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For your needs, check out bikes like the BMW G310GS or Kawasaki Versys-X 300. They're lighter, good on highways, and can handle light off-roading without breaking the bank.


 
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Old Today, 05:49 AM   #8
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the GS is a single cylinder...and I don't want to deal with BMW or their spare parts.

The versys 300 has some merit, however it is only 300cc with a 180* twin engine. Probably a good used case argument. There is not much of a price difference new.

I don't believe either option comes with 21" front and 18" rear. Yes i am after highway capable distance eating I don't believe anything under 400cc will do it comfortably. but I'm also thinking about neglected back roads and rural potholes with the infrequent bush bash if required.

I think the +25kg wet on the 450MT gets you quite a lot over the Versys 300x.

I also think the 450MT looks better...



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