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07-21-2014, 12:09 PM | #1 |
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Zongshen 200GY-A, Thar's yer problem! Starter Wires Rewire
This topic is about the starter and getting it going again. The starter wires are cut at the handlebar assembly, and what I think are the corresponding wires going to the coil are burnt. I will attach the two pics of this. I still need to hunt the wires from the handlebar cut and tucked inside tape somewhere along the main harness.
To fix I'll be re-running these wires along the main harness if my experiments connecting them directly work. Do I need to hunt a pair of actual connectors or make my own? Is there any reason not to? Thanks! Jim
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07-21-2014, 12:22 PM | #2 |
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you can use your own connectors... i would suggest insulated bullet style connectors... when i had to rewire my whole bike (i had a used harness to start with that needed help) thats what i used... quick, easy, clean looking.... i suggest the ones with heat shrink on the back side, as they are much more weather proof...
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07-21-2014, 12:41 PM | #3 |
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You can definitely use your own connectors. Upon the advice of my best friend, a professional diesel mechanic with over 30 years of experience, I switched from bullet connectors to spade connectors. I use these spade connectors for all the electrical connections on my motorcycles.
http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...ade+connectors http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/de...ade+connectors The spade connectors never loosen from the harsh vibrations induced by riding off road.
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07-21-2014, 12:58 PM | #5 |
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That's funny; I have had the opposite experience. I have had the bullet connectors loosen, but never had spade connectors loosen.
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07-21-2014, 01:30 PM | #6 |
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interesting... perfect example i have...LOL the spade on my roketa's coil input loosened to the point of making the bike not run right, then not at all..LOL
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07-21-2014, 03:28 PM | #7 |
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OOo Here's a fancy one--> like this one that way no vibration issues and kind of matches the old one. $3 though.
I'm still looking around; I know there are simpler two wire auto/computer connectors by the dozen I'm not finding at the moment. On hand I do have crimp connectors of all sorts, shrink tubing and can use those if I can get away with it. I'll report back! Jim
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07-21-2014, 09:50 PM | #8 |
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Excellent sleuthing! By coil wires, do you mean solenoid wires?
I rewired my old Suzuki with bullet connectors, because that's what it came with originally. it was a '77 TS185 that would vibrate your fillings loose, and the connectors never failed. Another alternative is to build your own Molex connectors. Not too spendy, and they're quite sturdy.
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07-21-2014, 11:47 PM | #9 |
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Oh yes solenoid, the coil actually has all good wiring to and from.
I was rummaging through my box of computer parts and had several sets of molex connectors and went to molex.com, but I'll prolly use the regular old crimp-ons though, it is easy and no cash required. Woohoo I still haven't spent any cash! I'll post pictures. Jim
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2008 Zongshen 200GY-A, HS163FML : Needs: Battery, Battery Box, Both clutch and brake handles, exhaust system, all plastics, gas cap, starter rewired. Her name will be Phoenix. 2007 Shineray Speedee 150, 1P57QMJ: Needs: starter rewired, exhaust connected, cleaned up, ignition switch simplified, new seat and lights, new front and back racks. There's no such thing as a free puppy or motorcycle. I think I have caught the fever from y'all. |
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07-22-2014, 01:29 AM | #10 |
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You and I are gonna get along well.
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07-22-2014, 05:41 PM | #11 |
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I think I heard "Make do, make it do, or do without"a million times growing up. It seems to have stuck as I am quite the resourceful packrat. I have a love/hate relationship with baling wire too. I'll even accept free motorcycles on the off chance I can get it to work.
Jim
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07-22-2014, 09:47 PM | #12 |
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What you can't get to work can always be parted out or scrapped.
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