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09-16-2024, 08:38 PM | #17 |
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reviews I've seen so far put the CFM slightly ahead of the Himi 452. although most are saying you couldn't go wrong with either one.
At this point though, I'm sticking with my KLR. my gen 1 has comparable weight and comparable power/torque. But the KLR makes it a bit lower. What I don't get is a 6th gear though. That only becomes a question of how one would use the bike. I would submit that anyone buying this size of bike shouldn't be planning to do long highway miles to get to riding locations. Yes, it can, but it won't be comfortable to the rider. Nor will the motor hold up as long under such abuse. my 2 cents won't buy a cup of coffee though.
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09-16-2024, 10:52 PM | #18 |
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My RE and CFmoto dealer has stated that the Himmy isn't selling while the MT450 is in high demand.
If you want the RE single cylinder and better fuel economy then perhaps yes... But if I am going to be spending this much I'll take the 270 crank twin. Having test rode it I see no issue doing highway distances with normal rest stops. Most are switching out the 14t front for a 15t to keep motorway speeds at about 5000rpm, so I would not call it abuse in any way... Though I wish the choice between the factory low seat and high seat was not an optional extra. If you have a KLR650 already then I don't see any reason to switch either... |
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09-17-2024, 10:29 AM | #19 |
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I swapped the sprocket on my KLR because I was using it to commute to work on the interstates. the downside is the gearing isn't as good for slow speed work. the only option I see is to take extra sprockets along and do field service when I get to my destination. Same may be true of the 450. I don't see a problem with doing that, but it is a little bit of nuisance. it's the only way I can think of to have the best of both worlds.
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09-18-2024, 10:11 AM | #20 |
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Here in my area I'm seeing the Himalayan selling for 5799. as it's a dealer, I'm assuming that does not include freight/setup.
no actual prices on the MCM yet but the web site says 6499 plus freight/setup. That shows be a $700 difference between the bikes. But the Himi price is the cheapest I found on Cycle Trader and the dealer is only 190 miles away from me. Not sure if MCM dealers will be showing any discounts (likely not initially given all the hype).
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10-19-2024, 11:48 PM | #22 |
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It's nice to have so many choices.
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Other than that, it'll be 6k rpm with a 17/38. And the 45 real mpg isn't particularly good. That's on the nk, so the Mt should get even less. I hear the 700cl-x gets just 36mpg. Ridiculous. |
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Yesterday, 11:43 PM | #24 |
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14 & 41 gives a 1:2.92 ratio.
18 & 38 gives a 1:2.11 ratio. That is so tall that first gear starts might be an issue; and probably top gear would be only useful for level cruising. 16 & 41 might be a better first try, then go to a 38 if still needed.
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Today, 07:48 AM | #25 |
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a 15t front sprocket is $20 from ali express and for most riders is enough for 100kph highway speeds.
Nathan the postman claims 75mpg for the 450mt and 100mpg+ for the Himmy 452. Though that might be UK imperial gallons. I doubt they would be worse than a carburaterd CG250 |
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Today, 07:52 AM | #26 |
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article suggest 5.6lt per 100km or 42mpg
https://amcn.com.au/editorial/2024-cfmoto-450mt/ Australian Rider/comments sections suggests 3-4lt per 100km So closer to 50-60mpg. So getting about 3 times the power of a cg250 that can do highway speeds comfortably at a minor increase in fuel consumption but a 17lt tank from factory... If that engine sound hurts gas mileage then I'll take the hit. |
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