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Bob Kelly · 12-02-2022, 01:01 AM

I have a TT250 and with the LOW seat the seat height is something like 31" which is still too tall for my short butt as I have a 30" inseam ( I can touch flat footed with a 28" seat height) I always am amazed at how many guys ride around on bikes that they cannot safely flat foot on.... this is very necessary for your safety and the bikes well being too
a young friend of mine in Bhutan is just learning to ride on a MT 15 and he has to
Tippie-toe the bike .... it's that tall for him ! but being a hard head he has been practicing in a parking lot at walking speeds or a tad more....
he reported to me that he dropped the bike last night because he killed the engine and
tried to put his foot down to catch himself and the bike but his foot went into a slight hole.... no contact with the ground and over he went....
For some stupid reason the bike manifacturers have been producing all bikes for people that need to be 7' to 8' tall..... yet the average height is much shorter than that
I'm only 5'9" with my boots on so I'm a short stocky individual but seat height is something I take very seriously.... I lower my bikes I have 4 bikes in the back yard
and I have lowered every one but the Triumph T120 as I can flat foot it the way it came.
all the rest I have had to lower.... and in most cases it's not that hard
just raise the front forks in the tripple trees (both the exact same amount) and then back off the pre-load on the rear shock..... and that is all it takes to be able to at least flat foot one foot.... on my new RX4 I had to make a new lower link because of the extreamily short stroke of the shock but I did get it lowered to where I can flat foot both feet....
Sure You don't have to lower your bike but I am telling you it is 9 times better if you do ! I fell over 3 times with the RX4 before lowering it ... because of it's weight and height off the ground and my dwindling striength ( I'm now 70 years old) but sense I have lowered it I haven't dropped it sense. that should tell you something !
seat height is everything when it comes to bike controlability putting your left foot down and doing a burn out really isn't possable if your seat is too high by the time you lean the bike over that far the tire is on it's side completely and it's not the same at all
at the most you want it at a 45 degree so you can pivot around your foot but that isn't easily done with a tall seat height....
..... Obviously.... your bikes are too tall guys, lower them for your own good and for less bumps and scratches on the bike ! if you have riding buddies here is a challenge for you... one of the group lowers his bike as low as he possably can say 2" and then let the other guys ride it and see what it feels like.... it's a night and day difference ! believe me !
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I lowered the TT250 about 2" and it helped alot, but I had to raise it back up or cut the side stand to match and my Kid didn't want the side stand cut on his new bike so I raised it back up a bit so it would stand on the side stand it's too tall for me now
but I can at least touch well with the balls of my feet on both sides but I can't get the heals down at all....(he can but I can't! LOL)
on the RX4 I took out 1.5" of side stand to make it lean on the side stand that is how much it is lowered.
a low seat height is far better than a high seat height ANYWHERE even hopping over logs....
just my opinion, you do what you want, but it is not hard to lower one of these 250's
.....
Bob.....

12-02-2022, 01:01 AM	#10
Bob Kelly Join Date: Jan 2022 Location: Weed, California. Posts: 271	I have a TT250 and with the LOW seat the seat height is something like 31" which is still too tall for my short butt as I have a 30" inseam ( I can touch flat footed with a 28" seat height) I always am amazed at how many guys ride around on bikes that they cannot safely flat foot on.... this is very necessary for your safety and the bikes well being too a young friend of mine in Bhutan is just learning to ride on a MT 15 and he has to Tippie-toe the bike .... it's that tall for him ! but being a hard head he has been practicing in a parking lot at walking speeds or a tad more.... he reported to me that he dropped the bike last night because he killed the engine and tried to put his foot down to catch himself and the bike but his foot went into a slight hole.... no contact with the ground and over he went.... For some stupid reason the bike manifacturers have been producing all bikes for people that need to be 7' to 8' tall..... yet the average height is much shorter than that I'm only 5'9" with my boots on so I'm a short stocky individual but seat height is something I take very seriously.... I lower my bikes I have 4 bikes in the back yard and I have lowered every one but the Triumph T120 as I can flat foot it the way it came. all the rest I have had to lower.... and in most cases it's not that hard just raise the front forks in the tripple trees (both the exact same amount) and then back off the pre-load on the rear shock..... and that is all it takes to be able to at least flat foot one foot.... on my new RX4 I had to make a new lower link because of the extreamily short stroke of the shock but I did get it lowered to where I can flat foot both feet.... Sure You don't have to lower your bike but I am telling you it is 9 times better if you do ! I fell over 3 times with the RX4 before lowering it ... because of it's weight and height off the ground and my dwindling striength ( I'm now 70 years old) but sense I have lowered it I haven't dropped it sense. that should tell you something ! seat height is everything when it comes to bike controlability putting your left foot down and doing a burn out really isn't possable if your seat is too high by the time you lean the bike over that far the tire is on it's side completely and it's not the same at all at the most you want it at a 45 degree so you can pivot around your foot but that isn't easily done with a tall seat height.... ..... Obviously.... your bikes are too tall guys, lower them for your own good and for less bumps and scratches on the bike ! if you have riding buddies here is a challenge for you... one of the group lowers his bike as low as he possably can say 2" and then let the other guys ride it and see what it feels like.... it's a night and day difference ! believe me ! ..... I lowered the TT250 about 2" and it helped alot, but I had to raise it back up or cut the side stand to match and my Kid didn't want the side stand cut on his new bike so I raised it back up a bit so it would stand on the side stand it's too tall for me now but I can at least touch well with the balls of my feet on both sides but I can't get the heals down at all....(he can but I can't! LOL) on the RX4 I took out 1.5" of side stand to make it lean on the side stand that is how much it is lowered. a low seat height is far better than a high seat height ANYWHERE even hopping over logs.... just my opinion, you do what you want, but it is not hard to lower one of these 250's ..... Bob..... __________________ It's too late when you've gone too far !
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