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Bill Hilly 05-29-2021 10:12 AM

Cheap soft saddlebags ?
 
I have a small trunk on my Brozz, but would like more room .I ordered some cheap soft saddlebags https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1, and don't know if I will be able to use them due to the exhaust ,but as cheap as they are I can use them for something. Do any of you use such bags, and is the factory exhaust shield enough to keep them from burning?, or have you made a better shield. Thanks

Boatguy 05-29-2021 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Hilly (Post 361005)
I have a small trunk on my Brozz, but would like more room .I ordered some cheap soft saddlebags https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1, and don't know if I will be able to use them due to the exhaust ,but as cheap as they are I can use them for something. Do any of you use such bags, and is the factory exhaust shield enough to keep them from burning?, or have you made a better shield. Thanks

It should work with the exhaust. I got these ones.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B089Z...b_b_asin_title

Basically, you lose some space in the side with the exhaust because the exhaust crushes it down a bit. Just allow this to happen and the bags work fine and look symmetrical.

The heat shielding on my Lifan x-pect (very similar) keeps the bags cool enough and mine are like a heavy vinyl material. Very meltable.

Keep the back of the bag far enough forward it doesn’t overhang past the heat shielding. You’ll be good!

Bill Hilly 05-29-2021 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Boatguy (Post 361006)
It should work with the exhaust. I got these ones.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B089Z...b_b_asin_title

Basically, you lose some space in the side with the exhaust because the exhaust crushes it down a bit. Just allow this to happen and the bags work fine and look symmetrical.

The heat shielding on my Lifan x-pect (very similar) keeps the bags cool enough and mine are like a heavy vinyl material. Very meltable.

Keep the back of the bag far enough forward it doesn’t overhang past the heat shielding. You’ll be good!

Them are nice bags you have. I couldn't resist the cheap price of the ones I ordered. They are showing as being $15, but they had a coupon, and a promotion of some sort ,and I was only charged $14 after tax.

stewbrash 05-29-2021 01:14 PM

Billyhilly, thanks for the link on those as you can't beat $15 for NICE, functional saddlebags! They originally listed for $46.79, so kudos to you! I placed my order, then sometime later I was looking at all my orders and they went back up to $46.79 dollars.

Baby Huey 05-29-2021 06:44 PM

Just ordered some! Thanks!

idle_purr 05-30-2021 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Hilly (Post 361005)
I have a small trunk on my Brozz, but would like more room .I ordered some cheap soft saddlebags https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1, and don't know if I will be able to use them due to the exhaust ,but as cheap as they are I can use them for something. Do any of you use such bags, and is the factory exhaust shield enough to keep them from burning?, or have you made a better shield. Thanks

Can you post a pic when you put them on? I'd like to see the Brozz with these, I just always worried about the exhaust melting the material

Bill Hilly 05-30-2021 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by idle_purr (Post 361040)
Can you post a pic when you put them on? I'd like to see the Brozz with these, I just always worried about the exhaust melting the material

I will do just that . I even thought about slinging them over the tank if it seemed like they would melt. I guess that a person could just use a bag on one side if they did not mind the non-symetrical look.

ChillRider 05-30-2021 12:06 PM

I have seen some local bikers in Greece, both cruiser and dual-sport/adv riders use a couple of US Army M71 butt packs -granted, those are on the small side. I remember it was quite the achievement to cram everything that you should -by the book- require for an emergency deployment inside that small thing!

Biker_Andy 05-30-2021 01:58 PM

It would be nice if someone out there made a somewhat universal luggage rack that would fit all our China bikes...

I bought the Nelson Riggs dual sport saddle bags but now that I have the eBay exhaust installed I'm worried about damaging my new bags. I'm considering removing the cat and putting the stock exhaust back on just to be able to keep the heat shield. In the meantime I'm using the giant Saddlemen TS3200 tail bag and mounting it with padlocks to my CSC top rack. It's the only bag I can find that's long enough to fit my shotgun.

Boatguy 05-30-2021 04:52 PM

We definitely need the racks. I’d love hard luggage panniers and a rack.

China Rider 27 05-31-2021 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Biker_Andy (Post 361049)
It's the only bag I can find that's long enough to fit my shotgun.

That for bear protection?

mtiberio 06-01-2021 04:47 PM

$24 amazon:
Stansport Saddle Bag https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004Z1239G...ing=UTF8&psc=1

krat 06-01-2021 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mtiberio (Post 361128)

I have a set of those, they are flimsy and don't hold their shape. Also difficult to close securely when loaded.

You guys act like your computers don't access E-bay or Amazon? They have leather saddle bags all day for $50. No rack needed. Also top cases of 30-70 liters.

I bought a set of soft luggage with a soft top case used at the local cycle shop (yes you are allowed to go in as long as you don't tell them you ride a China bike) for less than $50. Also got a nice tank bag for $10.

Or you can always zip tie the old milk crate on the rack and bungie a surplus duffle bag on the pillion. It works!

And don't try to say you would be embarrassed, you're riding a China-bike!

idle_purr 06-01-2021 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by krat (Post 361135)
And don't try to say you would be embarrassed, you're riding a China-bike!

I mounted the bed of a Ford Ranger to the luggage rack of my China Bike.:hmm:

XLsior 06-02-2021 03:28 AM

would it be possible to fab/bend an aluminum insert/back plate for side support rather than requiring a full rack with side extensions?

Nothing against milk crates though....

ChillRider 06-02-2021 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by XLsior (Post 361144)
Nothing against milk crates though....


In Greece, just about 99.999% of old geezers living in villages have a milk crate strapped to the back of their 30-yo underbone motorcycle (Yamaha Town Mate, Honda Cub, GLX etc.) which of course they ride with no license whatsoever :lol:

mtiberio 06-02-2021 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by krat (Post 361135)
I have a set of those, they are flimsy and don't hold their shape. Also difficult to close securely when loaded.
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All soft bags are sh*te AFAIC.

Bill Hilly 06-02-2021 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by krat (Post 361135)
I have a set of those, they are flimsy and don't hold their shape. Also difficult to close securely when loaded.

You guys act like your computers don't access E-bay or Amazon? They have leather saddle bags all day for $50. No rack needed. Also top cases of 30-70 liters.

I bought a set of soft luggage with a soft top case used at the local cycle shop (yes you are allowed to go in as long as you don't tell them you ride a China bike) for less than $50. Also got a nice tank bag for $10.

Or you can always zip tie the old milk crate on the rack and bungie a surplus duffle bag on the pillion. It works!

And don't try to say you would be embarrassed, you're riding a China-bike!

Embarrassed? I think not !! I ride my Chinese motorcycle around with pride. I even dress like Chairman Mao, and have a big red star on my helmet. In fact , I am so proud that about a week ago I pulled right up in the center of a rough looking motorcycle gang, and asked "Pardon me ,Have you any Grey Poupon?", and I tell you what, As soon as I get out of the hospital I'm gonna go to the super market, and buy the biggest jar of Grey Poupon that I can get, and I ain't sharing with nobody.

Hunnicutt 06-02-2021 02:06 PM

I found this while searching:


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WV7TW42...ing=UTF8&psc=1


Has anyone bought and installed this set? I'm wondering if they'd work on my TT250.

stewbrash 06-02-2021 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hunnicutt (Post 361173)
I found this while searching:


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07WV7TW42...ing=UTF8&psc=1


Has anyone bought and installed this set? I'm wondering if they'd work on my TT250.

It even comes with a Beer-holder! For around $35, those are nice looking!

krat 06-02-2021 03:16 PM

In Australia they took the improvised luggage to the extreme and made it standard government issue.

https://theoldbloke.homestead.com/postie-bikes.html

XLsior 06-02-2021 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by krat (Post 361181)
In Australia they took the improvised luggage to the extreme and made it standard government issue.

https://theoldbloke.homestead.com/postie-bikes.html


Yes the Postie CT110... I Hope to find a project worthy example eventually after I get the XL229 on the road.

Not so much a fan of the newer current issue NBC110 but even those might be getting replaced by Auspost with E-trikes...

Some of you might enjoy this YT Channel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKAD...bZE6yLTFKJ_wID

XLsior 06-02-2021 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ChillRider (Post 361145)
In Greece, just about 99.999% of old geezers living in villages have a milk crate strapped to the back of their 30-yo underbone motorcycle (Yamaha Town Mate, Honda Cub, GLX etc.) which of course they ride with no license whatsoever :lol:

What a weapon, Australian standard milk crate are cubes, I kinda wish we had the wider style like they have in Europe.

Thinking with 2 crates you could turn 1 upside down cut out an saddle and wheel arch for side racks then mount the other crate on top.

Having 2 crates also gives you a table and chair at camp...

Anyway a drink holder on saddle bags is a worthy addition.

dhilbish 06-02-2021 09:49 PM

Soft bag & Luggage Rack
 
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I have the same interest to use a softbag with a luggage rack. I like soft bags but had one melt on the exhaust.

I looked all over and could not find a rack system to buy. I was planning to build my own and was trying to find a design that looked good.

I stumbled across these photos and although it is a commercial part it seems to not be available in the US. The design is simple enough and I will be bending some conduit this weekend to make them.

I am using these join the parts together.

https://makerpipe.com/collections/mo...ts/t-connector

I hope the photos help someone else and I will post my output when it is done.

China Rider 27 06-02-2021 10:27 PM

There are some on Amazon that look close to fitting but to try it cost is $150.00 plus $25.00 shipping. I contacted a welder to see what it would cost to build just the rectangle section and got a quote for $110.00, with material $12.00 worth of pipe. If I had a welder and a pipe bender might be worth a try, but when you factor in the cost of the welder and finding the time to do the work. The cheapest material is electrical conduit but is galvanized so welding is nasty as the gas is poisonous. This guy did a great job for the money with conduit.

http://www.chinariders.net/showthrea...509#post330509


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