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2LZ 02-04-2021 12:42 AM

2006 Suzuki DL650 V-Strom
 
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I started feeling bad about jumping herbies thread so I thought I'd start one.

This is a pic of the shakedown cruise after doing some initial work and stripping off unnecessary items. It ran great! Geared WAY to high though. The previous owner said he jumped a tooth on the countershaft sprocket (from 15 stock to 16). Up here in Canyonland, I don't need to do 130 mph.....but when necessary, I do need to get the front end up or pull out of a deep corner without having to downshift. The 14 tooth has been ordered. New tires and wheel bearing arrived today. Time for some surgery.

Huck369 02-04-2021 07:02 AM

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I had an 05 Wee-Strom for a while, great bike, did everything well....mine was blue....

2LZ 02-04-2021 12:13 PM

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So after years of owning a Swedish bike, American bikes and China bikes, this is my first Japanese bike in decades. Funny how these "vastly superior" Japanese bikes share some familiar parts! LOL!

2LZ 02-04-2021 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Huck369 (Post 353129)
I had an 05 Wee-Strom for a while, great bike, did everything well....mine was blue....

Love the blue. Do you recall any dislikes about the bike or problems that stood out? All I ever read is how long these things are supposed to last.

Huck369 02-05-2021 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ (Post 353174)
Love the blue. Do you recall any dislikes about the bike or problems that stood out? All I ever read is how long these things are supposed to last.

Absolutely no issues with it, like I said it was a Great "Do it all" bike.....I sold it when I dislocated my knee back in 2010, was on crutches for 3 months, and couldn't bend my knee enough to ride it when I finally got off the crutches...sold it and bought a 600 VLX Shadow, as the forward pegs let me get back to riding, sold the Shadow as soon as I got my knee back to bending better and got me another Guzzi (750 Breva)

The "Only" downside to the V-Strom was, it didn't have the "Soul" that I find some bikes have, even though it did everything well, with the stock exhaust, the motor sounded like a sewing machine....I don't like load bikes.....BUT, I do want to hear (or "Feel")the exhaust.

herbie 02-07-2021 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Huck369 (Post 353206)
The "Only" downside to the V-Strom was, it didn't have the "Soul" that I find some bikes have, even though it did everything well, with the stock exhaust, the motor sounded like a sewing machine....I don't like load bikes.....BUT, I do want to hear (or "Feel")the exhaust.


You just have to twist the throttle a little harder :lmao: Just kidding
That's one thing I love about the bike is how quiet it is, I guess I'm getting old! :hmm:

herbie 02-07-2021 09:48 AM

2LZ, I'm interested in how you like the 14 tooth sprocket. I was on the fence about 14 or 15 and went stock with the 15. It suits me pretty well.

2LZ 02-07-2021 03:05 PM

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2LZ, I'm interested in how you like the 14 tooth sprocket. I was on the fence about 14 or 15 and went stock with the 15. It suits me pretty well.

Considering I rarely hit 60 and only in short bursts, the 14 rocks for where I ride.

Here she is after some TLC.

2LZ 02-12-2021 04:44 PM

Valve Check/Adjust
 
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This makes the "difficult RX3 valve adjustment" look like child's play. Sheesh...
Waiting for my shims to come in......

herbie 02-13-2021 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ (Post 353650)
This makes the "difficult RX3 valve adjustment" look like child's play. Sheesh...
Waiting for my shims to come in......

Dang, you are more meticulous than I am and I thought I was OCD! Good on you for taking such good care of your machines! Part of the fun for me and motorcycling is the maintenance, it's almost therapeutic.

Megadan 02-13-2021 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ (Post 353650)
This makes the "difficult RX3 valve adjustment" look like child's play. Sheesh...
Waiting for my shims to come in......

It's the trade off. Cam on bucket style setups are a bit more time consuming due to having to figure out what shim size you need and then waiting for them to come in.

The upside is, they don't usually need correction as often. Japanese manufacturers tend to be conservative with their valve checks, often stating every 16k miles, but the actual need to make an adjustment is easily past 30k in most instances.

herbie 02-14-2021 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Megadan (Post 353694)
The upside is, they don't usually need correction as often. Japanese manufacturers tend to be conservative with their valve checks, often stating every 16k miles, but the actual need to make an adjustment is easily past 30k in most instances.

I knew there was a reason I didn't get to the valve check yet, I just didn't know what it was! :lmao:

My bike only has 18k miles on it so I'm probably good but plan on tackling it some time later in the year

2LZ 02-15-2021 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by herbie (Post 353734)
I knew there was a reason I didn't get to the valve check yet, I just didn't know what it was! :lmao:

My bike only has 18k miles on it so I'm probably good but plan on tackling it some time later in the year

Dan makes a good point regarding the valve styles. The bucket/shim setups are more stable for the longer haul, albeit vastly more time consuming and technical to service.

The scary part is my bike ran perfectly....with a rear exhaust valve that had zero lash and probably never closed all the way.

Herbie, this article was a WEALTH of information (linked to me from Gert @ Stromtroopers) and will save you tons of heartache with the tensioners, especially the rear cylinder. Feel free to bookmark it for future reference.

https://www.circlenz.co.nz/Library/s...and-adjustment

herbie 02-20-2021 11:09 AM

Thanks 2LZ! That looks like a good article, I put it in my favorites and will use it. I read on stomtroopers about what you found on your check, that's crazy. I'm like you as I have adjusted many many screw type valve lash adjusters and this would be my first bucket style check. I'm not afraid to tackle it as I've done lots of mechanical repairs over my 60 years :D

2LZ 02-20-2021 07:01 PM

Yet another reason to do a baseline maintenance on a used bike. I changed fork fluid today.

Fork #1 - I dumped out ATF.
Fork #2 - I dumped out fork fluid.
Both different volumes.

My guess would be the fork with the ATF had a seal changed at one time.

After a quick flush, I refilled both to spec with my favorite Bell Ray 10w and reset the preload. Much nicer now!

2LZ 04-21-2021 01:12 PM

2006 Suzuki DL650 V-Strom 1000 mile review:

The pro's....
1- Power. Lots of torque from 2500 that pulls to red line. Love that part of a V Twin. After years of riding 200's, the 66 hp and 44 torque are a welcome guest. Very smooth and predictable. The motor does zero funny stuff in how it presents its power.
2- Super comfy seat, even for my fat ass. Go out for two or three continuous hours and zero monkey butt. After adding pull-back risers and pedal extenders, it's also now has a much more prone riding position. That helped a lot. This isn't a crotch rocket but the seating was tending toward that feel.
3- Suspension is more than adequate, especially after finally dialing it in. The forks have a preload adjust and the rear shock has preload adjust (nice accessible side knob) and also, dampening adjust. I do have to keep in mind that it's 15 years old so high tech, it's not.
4- Handles really well for a big bike. Sweepers are almost like dancing with a graceful partner. Very predictable.
5- Gauge cluster is large-ish and very easy to read. Awesome for old eyes.
6- A 6 gallon gas tank. It's got a good range.

The cons:
1- It's big....and heavy. While this adds to a super-solid feel, after years of riding smaller bikes, it's an adjustment. Kind of like after years of slow-grilling chicken and ribs, grilling a steak now is a crap shoot.
2- Not a mileage miser. Even with a full tune and filters. I guess that happens when the throttle is twisted.
3- Regarding simple maintenance, virtually everything is hidden. After years of wrenching on super-simple China Bikes, this thing has tons of Tupperware to remove. Just yesterday, I had to remove the seat, two side panels and the rear grab bar.....just to get at the rear brake fluid reservoir. It is nice that they left a small hole in the side panel to see the fluid level but if it's low....bust out a wide variety of tools.
4- I have no idea how Suzuki marketed this behemoth as a "dual sport". It's not. Dual sports don't weigh a million pounds and have boatloads of fairing plastic to crush. If I want to ride a true dual sport, I'll get on Q.
5- BIGGEST complaint, by far. THE REAR BRAKE SUCKS! People complain about the RX3 brakes???? They are Brembo/Willwood compared to this rear.
Depress pedal....it's a dead block of wood. Press harder....still wooden....but I may feel something. Press harder....lockup. No joy felt at all.
I did re-pad the brakes all around and I bled the rear with new DOT 4, just yesterday. Zero change. I'm going to rebuild the caliper and take a heavy scuff pad to the rear disk to see if that helps. Feels like a froze piston BUT.....there are rear brake complaints on older V-Strom forums all over the web. I hope I can do something with it. The all-mechanical drum on my old 1974 Harley worked better....seriously. I'm trying to keep in mind I did buy a 15 year old, used bike. The jury is currently out.

More to follow.....

herbie 04-22-2021 10:32 AM

Good honest review 2lz! I agree with most things you said, can’t really speak to the maintenance part as I haven’t had to do much of anything to remove the Tupperware. I’m not sure what’s happening on the rear brake issue, mine seems just fine. The bike is a bit of a pig and not great on off road stuff but I have another bike for that, well almost :lmao::lmao:

2LZ 04-22-2021 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by herbie (Post 358900)
Good honest review 2lz! I agree with most things you said, can’t really speak to the maintenance part as I haven’t had to do much of anything to remove the Tupperware. I’m not sure what’s happening on the rear brake issue, mine seems just fine. The bike is a bit of a pig and not great on off road stuff but I have another bike for that, well almost :lmao::lmao:

I pulled the brake apart yesterday afternoon, even though I'm still waiting on the caliper kit (all the rubber stuff). I took my die grinder and heavy scuffer to the disk, resurfaced the new pads, buffed the sliders and bolts on my bench grinder, then reassembled everything with brake grease, where needed. More miles today to see if it helps.

Thanks for letting me know that your rear seems normal, herbie! There is hope....

A couple days ago, I was hooking it up a steep twisty we have by my house called "Ram's Horn Grade". I was getting a good rhythm going and picking up the pace. Came out of a sweeper left pretty hot, was tossing it over to the right while downshifting and on both binders setting up for the super-tight right.....and the rear walked right out on me, locked up. It went from numb to skidding, just like that.
After I got my butt un-puckered, that's when I decided to tear it apart again.

cheesy 04-22-2021 12:30 PM

You might take a gander at the rear master and the rear brake hose while you are at it. Possibly some crud in the return side of the master or the hose may be delaminating internally. The hose thing I kinda doubt but the bike is going on 15 years old.

2LZ 04-29-2021 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by cheesy (Post 358913)
You might take a gander at the rear master and the rear brake hose while you are at it. Possibly some crud in the return side of the master or the hose may be delaminating internally. The hose thing I kinda doubt but the bike is going on 15 years old.

UPDATE: Yesterday, I rebuilt the caliper, master cylinder, and installed a brand new braided brake line. It helped a little, I think....but the brake still sucks. I can only hear the bike reviewers online if this brake was on a China bike.

I just now ordered a new rotor with pads. I already have new pads on it but I want to try newly mated surfaces, just to keep an even playing field. This will mean every part will have either been rebuilt or replaced. If the brake still sucks....then it really is just a lousy brake.

I'm hoping the rotor is glazed or blued and just not dispersing the heat properly.

2LZ 05-08-2021 01:50 PM

Done! I finally replaced the disc (rotor) and new pads, yet again. After a good seating, the brake finally feels as it should. Out of all the bikes, over all the decades, I've never had to replace a rotor before.
I guess if a guys replaces/rebuilds every component, positive results should follow, right?

herbie 05-08-2021 07:44 PM

Dang 2LZ, all that time and money for a rear brake! I'm glad you got it fixed though. But who needs brakes anyway :lmao:

2LZ 10-22-2021 02:19 PM

Well..... After the mishap in this thread:

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=29791

It seems things are looking up. I got every batch of parts in and installed, with the exception of the hand guard and bar ends, which are probably sitting on a ship in the LA harbor.

Of course, the tank fairing is currently unavailable but my paint kit came in from Colorite. I just need to wait for warm, dry weather. Probably do it in the Spring.

I went to breakfast with the boys dad this morning and we were chatting. He said he was talking to his son and asked about his future plans, even if he would be riding anymore. He took quite a spill and tumble, after all.

He then informed his dad that he'd like to find something just like my V-Strom 650. He really liked it. That was code for, "I wonder if Funcle 2LZ would sell me his?"

I may just do that. Come to find out, my buddy who found me this bike, is selling his pristine 2006 V-Strom 1000 with only 12K miles on it. He's like herbie and doesn't hang onto bikes for too long. We'll see!

herbie 10-22-2021 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 2LZ (Post 367948)
. He's like herbie and doesn't hang onto bikes for too long. We'll see!

:lmao::lmao: you know that’s right!


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