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wamey 06-14-2017 04:11 PM

Hawk Fork Brace Mod
 
Here are the mod pictures:
http://imgur.com/a/PamSn

I ordered this harley brace and drilled holes in it:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/252955960539

All in all I'm happy with the front suspension being a bit stiffer! I only have an hour of riding on it thus far so I'll get back to you all once I've field tested it a bit more!

Rangerscott 06-14-2017 04:43 PM

Thats a poor design.

https://www.google.com/search?client...0XAZEQvwUIXigA

wamey 06-14-2017 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangerscott (Post 259244)

Both designs are used to brace front forks, scroll down on your search...

The reason the aluminum clamp is more difficult here is because the tire/wheel would interfere with a straight across clamp so you'd have to machine a much larger block of aluminum.

Rangerscott 06-14-2017 05:27 PM

You would put it up higher on the forks.

2LZ 06-14-2017 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wamey (Post 259246)
Both designs are used to brace front forks, scroll down on your search...

The reason the aluminum clamp is more difficult here is because the tire/wheel would interfere with a straight across clamp so you'd have to machine a much larger block of aluminum.

I've had three similar to yours on my old, stripped Yamaha Enduro's I used to race (way back when) and there was a serious difference in front end rigidity.
I think yours looks cool and it appears to fit very well.

wamey 06-14-2017 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangerscott (Post 259247)
You would put it up higher on the forks.

That would interfere with suspension travel, and not brace the parts I want braced.

The reason I want the lower part of the fork assembly braced is because these were rotating ever so slightly, allowing the wheel to turn about +/- 2 degrees from the handlebars. At higher speeds on uneven ground this manifested as a slight "speed wobble". The brace I used prevents lower fork twisting which helps to minimize wheel flop.

JerryHawk250 06-14-2017 05:39 PM

Nice job. :tup: Looks like the only option you have. The other style wouldn't work because the 21" wheels is higher than the lower fork housing. No way to mount it.

ben2go 06-14-2017 08:53 PM

On thin forks and light bike, anything to stiffen the front end is helpful.

Megadan 06-14-2017 10:01 PM

I am still on a quest for a clamp style that may work, There are a couple of possibilities, but if they don't pan out then I am going this route. Many older hondas used a similar idea to integrate a fork brace with the front fender, and trust me it makes a difference! For 20 bucks and some time drilling a couple of holes, can you really complain?

2LZ 06-15-2017 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ben2go (Post 259265)
On thin forks and light bike, anything to stiffen the front end is helpful.

This is, by far, the biggest benefit to USD forks. With the fat tubes being in the clamps and very long, it is far more rigid than a standard fork.

Weldangrind 06-15-2017 12:23 PM

Good idea! The TW200 uses a similar brace as a fender mount, to contend with skinny forks and a 4.00-18 front tire.

elevatorman 06-16-2017 03:49 PM

I like this idea and really appreciate the poster.
Immediately I went over and ordered one for my Hawk 250.
Whereas it might not be the best it is certainly something and
very affordable.
:thanks:

pcspecialist 06-17-2017 09:21 AM

I wonder if they produce them in-house? I just asked if I could get one without the mounting holes, preferably without the ears too. If they get enough requests, maybe they'll say yes if they initially say no.

Kdburtch 06-17-2017 09:35 AM

awesome write up, thank you. Does it completely clear the knobbies, or is there some rub?

Megadan 06-17-2017 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Kdburtch (Post 259487)
awesome write up, thank you. Does it completely clear the knobbies, or is there some rub?

It clears with plenty of room around the tire. Take a look at his pictures and if you go to the 5th one down you see a straight on shot showing plenty of air gap around the tire.

wamey 06-19-2017 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kdburtch (Post 259487)
awesome write up, thank you. Does it completely clear the knobbies, or is there some rub?

Totally clears! If rub happens, I've got other problems ;)

http://i.imgur.com/EMhQC5Z.jpg

hertz9753 06-20-2017 12:58 AM

Is that a soft terrain off road tire?

wamey 06-20-2017 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by hertz9753 (Post 259654)
Is that a soft terrain off road tire?

It's the tire the hawk came with. I'm planning on switching over to kenda's after these wear out.

hertz9753 06-21-2017 01:00 AM

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My Hawk front tire looked like that.

mj435 09-30-2018 12:27 AM

So I just got my new hawk and the fork is horrible? I can move the front wheel back in forth in the forks and it makes me feel like I'm riding with two flat tires.

kirbo7106 09-30-2018 11:30 AM

Thanks Wamey! Great post with pictures! I bought the same brace, but I haven’t mounted it yet.

Enjoy the Ride!

ben2go 09-30-2018 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mj435 (Post 291529)
So I just got my new hawk and the fork is horrible? I can move the front wheel back in forth in the forks and it makes me feel like I'm riding with two flat tires.




Your stem nuts are probably loose. The front tire needs to be set properly and the axle nut torqued. The triple clamp bolts need to be torqued properly as well. None of these should need thread locker as long as they are torqued properly. If you're not very familiar with motorcycles and their mechanical workings, you shouldn't have bought into the China bikes.

Megadan 10-01-2018 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by mj435 (Post 291529)
So I just got my new hawk and the fork is horrible? I can move the front wheel back in forth in the forks and it makes me feel like I'm riding with two flat tires.

If the wheel is sliding back and forth between the forks I would start by making sure you didn't forget the left side axle spacer that sits between the wheel and left fork.

LaGwAgOn6040 05-02-2019 08:02 AM

Anyone have any other links where to buy that fork brace? Seems the eBay seller doesn't have them for purchase anymore.

Megadan 05-02-2019 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LaGwAgOn6040 (Post 307868)
Anyone have any other links where to buy that fork brace? Seems the eBay seller doesn't have them for purchase anymore.

This is their actual website listing. They are out of stock here as well, but you could contact them and see if they have any on order. https://www.demonscycle.com/chrome-s...ide-front-ends

Otherwise, there are other fork braces made for the same bike that would also work.

Here is an example for about the same price, just unpainted/plated. http://www.wpsracing.com/ulfobrrawkok.html

roundhouse 05-02-2019 10:16 PM

I bought one right after reading the original post and just have not drilled holes in it and installed. Maybe this weekend.

surfhawk 05-07-2019 04:37 PM

I know this is an old thread, but i'd like to add something. First, thanks so much for the great idea including part details. Made it very easy.

I painted mine black to make it blend in with the tire more.

Also, if you raise the front wheel and loosen the axle nut, you can get the brace in and use slightly longer bolts to coax the brace in place enough to then sneak in the original bolts at the other bolt hole. No need for ratchet straps or removing the front fender. Looks great and bike feels more stable. Thanks for the idea!

surfhawk 05-07-2019 04:38 PM

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oops, i guess pic didn't attach first time. Sorry

Megadan 05-07-2019 06:34 PM

I didn't have to even use longer bolts to get mine into place. I think my only complaint is that the brace puts outward pressure on the forks. I used my vice to try and tweak the ends together a little bit to reduce that. Another option would be to drill your new holes a bit higher up than the original holes and have less air gap over the tires. This would reduce the interference with the widest part of the fork and make it a bit easier to install. Then you could trim off the bottom to reduce the size and weight.

surfhawk 05-07-2019 09:18 PM

with your vice were you able to squeeze the round part at the top? That's the widest part on mine putting outward pressure on the forks. The ends are actually easy enough to bend with my hands, but that didn't help the top round part. Thanks.

Megadan 05-07-2019 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by surfhawk (Post 308385)
with your vice were you able to squeeze the round part at the top? That's the widest part on mine putting outward pressure on the forks. The ends are actually easy enough to bend with my hands, but that didn't help the top round part. Thanks.

Yep, that is exactly what I did. I didn't go too crazy with it, just a small squeeze. Mine still puts a bit of pressure on the forks, but it is a lot less than it was before. I think the consistency in manufacturing is off enough that everybody will have different experiences. I would still like to find a different style of brace eventually, but this works rather well and for $20-25 the cost to improvement ratio is really high.

roundhouse 05-12-2019 06:08 PM

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Did mine today. I put it on, after having one for a yard. I drilled it out and squished the brace by sitting on it. Bent it just a hair and it fit great. I found my breather hose thingy was all cracked and rotted out so I threw on a pod filter and ordered a little breather to put on the crankcase.

I have mismatched bolts on it now. I will pull it apart next weekend and get new bolts and paint it black. I may use my sawzall to chop off the corners and use a bench grinder to round it off. I think it would look better.

Just have to wait until I get the breather and I will ride it and see how awesome it is with the brace.

JerryHawk250 07-03-2019 12:44 PM

I installed my fork brace last night. Too dark to take pictures and then the rain came so didn't get to ride to try it out. :cry: I'll do all that tomorrow and report back. Whoohoo! nice long weekend and lots of ride time. :yay:

JerryHawk250 07-08-2019 10:19 AM

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Hot as it was over the long 4th of July weekend I did get some ride time in. This is what I found. Front brakes just felt better as in braking felt more controlled. Bike felt more stable at higher speeds especially on rough sections of road. The front didn't feel like it wanted to wonder around. When going over bridges with grating the grating didn't pull side to side like it used to. Then again this could just all be in my head. lol :crazy: Mod well worth it IMO.

Megadan 07-08-2019 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 313789)
Then again this could just all be in my head. lol :crazy:

Not in your head at all. These long thin forks have a lot of flex in them, so the difference in feel when they are braced together is immense. Ride it for a while and take it off for no reason in particular to really notice the difference.

JerryHawk250 07-08-2019 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Megadan (Post 313794)
Not in your head at all. These long thin forks have a lot of flex in them, so the difference in feel when they are braced together is immense. Ride it for a while and take it off for no reason in particular to really notice the difference.

Only time it's coming off is when I replace the fork seals and oil. ;)

OneLeggedRider 07-17-2019 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by JerryHawk250 (Post 313463)
I installed my fork brace last night. Too dark to take pictures and then the rain came so didn't get to ride to try it out. :cry: I'll do all that tomorrow and report back. Whoohoo! nice long weekend and lots of ride time. :yay:

Where did you find yours?

JerryHawk250 07-17-2019 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OneLeggedRider (Post 314279)
Where did you find yours?

I bought it on Amazon but out of stock now because I bought the last one. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1 They all come from the same place, Demons Cycles. You just have to keep checking until they have them in stock again. That's what I did and jumped on it when it was available. There are other styles available but triple the price.

JerryHawk250 07-17-2019 02:23 PM

If you have access to a steel plate roller you could fab one up. I was going to make one from 3/16" x 3" aluminum flat bar because I was tired of waiting on them to come back in stock. A friend of mine has a fab shop and I was going to use his roller to form it. Was going to drill a few holes and polish it up to make it look nice.

OneLeggedRider 07-17-2019 04:36 PM

I shan't be outdone! :hehe:

I just ordered the one from the other link Dan posted, $24.95 + $12 shipping.


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