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madsocial 08-04-2016 09:36 PM

New RZ3! Naked bike!
 
Did you guys see this? Wow! What a beauty!

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/?p=22737

http://en.zongshenmotor.com/?q=node/...om/?q=node/933

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM4lwFqGtJE - YouTube Video

NM RETIRED GUY 08-05-2016 12:39 AM

Looks really nice. I wonder when they will be shipping?

1cylinderwonder 08-05-2016 12:46 AM

A naked RX-3????
 
What makes the RZ3 so pricey?:crazy: Isn't it just the same engine and drive train as the RX-3, in a naked frame? No windscreen, no side cases, no top case, no crash bars, no spoked wheels, and no skid plate, etc. it should be substantially cheaper than the RX-3?
Please explain the higher price for a lesser bike. :hmm:

Jay In Milpitas 08-05-2016 12:49 AM

A bit more about the RZ3 here: http://pertamax7.com/2016/07/14/zong...3-250-cyclone/

Can't they go with a nice, flat bench seat? I really dislike the bucket seats used on so many bikes these days. The TT250 seat is close, just won't swap over.

detours 08-05-2016 02:00 AM

I really like it in white. I hope it sells, but competition in the 250 beginner segment is fierce, new and used.

The RX3 was so unique there's nothing quite like it. The TT250 nails the off-road market at the price point.

But the RZ3 ... That's a tougher sell when there are plenty of Honda and Kawasakis out there used for the same price.

Lee R 08-05-2016 07:46 AM

I like the rz3 and CSC but at that price after doc and crating it's basically the price of a Honda CB300f which retails for 3999. Used are super easy to find for 3000-3500 with barely any miles or holdovers still new.

Jay In Milpitas 08-05-2016 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee R (Post 227352)
I like the rz3 and CSC but at that price after doc and crating it's basically the price of a Honda CB300f which retails for 3999. Used are super easy to find for 3000-3500 with barely any miles or holdovers still new.

I agree. Also appears that access to the valves for adjustment will be more challenging than the RX3. I see nothing special in this bike, nor with the RC version.

Approaching $4000, I'd rather have one of Steve's Mustang replicas. At least they are distinctive, and would make a great little "back of the RV" bike.

CSaddict 08-05-2016 09:21 AM

I'm not sure where CSC is going with the pricing on this bike. Anyone would spend the extra couple bucks and buy the Japanese machine.

2LZ 08-05-2016 10:58 AM

We'll see what happens. If they move, great! If they sit, sales are headed our way. I've never been one much into what I call "rolling scaffold", regarding styling....but styling taste is personal anyway. There's a big market of folks who love this look.

I wish CSC luck! Of course, we all want CSC to succeed. It's an entirely different and supportive way of marketing CB's that we've never experienced in this market before.

pyoungbl 08-05-2016 05:24 PM

I wonder if the 20L tank will fit my RX3. I'd be happy to give up those useless plastic side panels in order to have a larger tank. Oh, and my magnetic tank bag would fit better too.

Peter Y.

FastDoc 08-05-2016 05:47 PM

Looks good to me. Should be a tad lighter.

I hate that style of commercial. I feel like after watching it I need a Ritalin.

BlackBike 08-05-2016 06:03 PM

http://blog.motorcycle.com.vsassets....e-canada-f.jpg

http://i1.wp.com/pertamax7.com/wp-co...amax7.com_.jpg

2lz, I like the skeletor look. This is the differentiation they are counting on for this segment vs the honda competition. And it (rz3) is a little lower price but true , hard to not go with the Honda and its nation wide exposure.

FastDoc 08-05-2016 07:31 PM

I like the trellis frame as well, but I'm a Ducatisti.

dpl096 08-05-2016 07:32 PM

I sure like the white model and I hope CSC does well with them.

Jay In Milpitas 08-05-2016 11:15 PM

Hard to tell, but there appears to be two hoses going to the water pump. Factory applied thermostat bypass, perhaps?

1cylinderwonder 08-06-2016 12:01 AM

Different bars, different model?
 
I thought that thr RZ3 had "CLIP ON" handlebars. The photo shown above has high rise bars????? I guess that's a different version than CSC is bringing in to the USA.

BlackBike 08-06-2016 12:48 AM

Madsocial...is csc showing rz3 on their website? Haven't checked. This pic is from Indonesian website.

2LZ 08-06-2016 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastDoc (Post 227408)
I like the trellis frame as well, but I'm a Ducatisti.

Prime example, Doc! A Duc....probably one of the most finely built, bada$$ bikes out there.....but I feel like I need to roll it up to a house and start painting! ;-)
Just kidding! Just kidding!!! Put away the pitch forks!

madsocial 08-06-2016 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1cylinderwonder (Post 227334)
What makes the RZ3 so pricey?:crazy: Isn't it just the same engine and drive train as the RX-3, in a naked frame? No windscreen, no side cases, no top case, no crash bars, no spoked wheels, and no skid plate, etc. it should be substantially cheaper than the RX-3?
Please explain the higher price for a lesser bike. :hmm:

Naked bikes are hot right now. It's supply demand pricing. That's all.

madsocial 08-06-2016 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pyoungbl (Post 227398)
I wonder if the 20L tank will fit my RX3. I'd be happy to give up those useless plastic side panels in order to have a larger tank. Oh, and my magnetic tank bag would fit better too.

Peter Y.

hahaha You and Luke think alike! :tup:

madsocial 08-06-2016 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 227438)
Madsocial...is csc showing rz3 on their website? Haven't checked. This pic is from Indonesian website.

No they are not. They just blogged about it. I went to the Zongshen's site for more details. Not really 100% sure what version they will actually import or what colorways or even if the bike will have clip-ons or not.

It will be interesting to see. I do agree with a lot of the folks, the price point would push me to probably buy a Honda over the Zong. At least for this type of Naked bike. Manufacturers just price point these things so high because they are naked bikes. It's just what is popular now. Kinda of like long beards and skinny jeans, if you get what I'm saying.

1cylinderwonder 08-06-2016 12:01 PM

Check it out!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by madsocial (Post 227451)
No they are not. They just blogged about it. I went to the Zongshen's site for more details. Not really 100% sure what version they will actually import or what colorways or even if the bike will have clip-ons or not. .

If you go to the CSC's Home Page you will find a itemized list of the features and colors and equipment of the RZ3 they will be selling.:hmm:
You'll find three color choice and the clip-ons mentioned prominently. So I do not believe that the actual colors and equipment of the RZ3 is still undecided. It's a done deal!
Check it out! :yay:

BlackBike 08-06-2016 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1cylinderwonder (Post 227474)
If you go to the CSC's Home Page you will find a itemized list of the features and colors and equipment of the RZ3 they will be selling.:hmm:
You'll find three color choice and the clip-ons mentioned prominently. So I do not believe that the actual colors and equipment of the RZ3 is still undecided. It's a done deal!
Check it out! :yay:

No link ? :cry:

madsocial 08-07-2016 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1cylinderwonder (Post 227474)
If you go to the CSC's Home Page you will find a itemized list of the features and colors and equipment of the RZ3 they will be selling.:hmm:
You'll find three color choice and the clip-ons mentioned prominently. So I do not believe that the actual colors and equipment of the RZ3 is still undecided. It's a done deal!
Check it out! :yay:

They must have put it up after my post. It was only on the blog when I first saw them post about it.

Here's the link: http://www.cscmotorcycles.com/CSC-RZ3-2017-p/zrz3.htm

I think I like the rounder headlight as noted below by jontando

dpl096 08-07-2016 06:40 PM

With the CSC press release today on the RZ3 the trolls will crawl out of their holes. Let the bias and ignorance begin :tdown::tdown:

BlackBike 08-08-2016 12:22 AM

Wow!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jontando (Post 227580)
It just looks so much better with a round headlight.
https://i.imgur.com/rRXNfIQ.jpg

Where is this coming from? Is this something you photoshoped?:hmm:


Thats a big ol gas tank, even being conservative it's close to 350 miles per tank.(5.28×65mpg)

Really pushing the 250 technologies :tup:

BlackBike 08-08-2016 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jontando (Post 227651)
Yeah, I mocked it up in PS.

Neat, Looks like the real deal.

Ghaniba 08-08-2016 12:44 PM

Not my cup of tea. Much like the RC3 -- if you've got that look on a bike, it better have some snap under that throttle...

Dave aka Ghan

Lee R 08-08-2016 01:32 PM

With doc and crating it's only 300 dollars less than a Honda CB300f or R here in NY. They go for 3980 plus tax.

I'd go for the extra power and reliability of the Honda, and the resale. Zongshens not up to Honda quality just yet.

dpl096 08-08-2016 02:39 PM

That may turn out to be a deciding factor for many .... I'm satisfied with my RX3 and while the RZ looks sharp Im not their target customer. I wish them great success.

BlackBike 08-08-2016 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpl096 (Post 227727)
That may turn out to be a deciding factor for many .... I'm satisfied with my RX3 and while the RZ looks sharp Im not their target customer. I wish them great success.

18-25 audience perhaps?

Lee R 08-08-2016 04:25 PM

Both the RC and RZ are in a very competitive spot in the market. For now the RX3 is in its own niche, and the TT250 is super competitive in price (if you ignore the 1400 dollar Hawk).

I do hope they do well, CSC is a great company to buy from, I wish they sold every brand by mail lol.

BlackBike 08-10-2016 12:28 AM

From csc blog
 
http://californiascooterco.com/blog/...8_4403-650.jpg

detours 08-10-2016 02:13 AM

The more I look at the RZ3, the more I like it. But I'm a sucker for naked bikes with a standard seat position.

If I didn't already have the perfect 250 (my sweet RX3), it would be on my short list :tup:

david3921 08-10-2016 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 227869)

I can't find this picture on the blog. It looks like something broke off the cover under the C and the Y. The other pictures show that there a cap of some kind there. Is it on the RX?

rtking 08-10-2016 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by david3921 (Post 227941)
I can't find this picture on the blog. It looks like something broke off the cover under the C and the Y. The other pictures show that there a cap of some kind there. Is it on the RX?

I can't find that picture on the blog either. But that circular thing is actually the sight glass for the oil level. Nothing broken there. ;)

BlackBike 08-10-2016 08:55 PM

Its in the middle of the trip I think past the gobi desert. This is where I lifted the pic from. Sure it's a Chinese domestic unit .not sure what our imports will look like

CSCDude 08-10-2016 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtking (Post 227950)
I can't find that picture on the blog either. But that circular thing is actually the sight glass for the oil level. Nothing broken there. ;)

Yep, that's right. Nothing broken.

That particular bike was at a dealer's in Xianyang. Nothing was broken on it, but it had a few scrapes and scratches. The RZ3 is already in service in China.

You would not believe the condition most of the motorcycles are in over there. They ride their bikes hard and put them away wet.

Our colors will be gray with a red frame, and white with a red frame, at least for the 2017 model year. They had a couple more colors on the Chinese version (all metallic red, and all metallic blue). Those look good, too, but I think ours will be better.

CSCDude 08-10-2016 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 227954)
Its in the middle of the trip I think past the gobi desert. This is where I lifted the pic from. Sure it's a Chinese domestic unit .not sure what our imports will look like

One thing I might add, and it's the same comment Joe Gresh had on his FB page after he saw the RZ3...the photos don't do it justice. It is a very attractive motorcycle when you see the actual bike. We saw a lot of cool stuff over there.

david3921 08-10-2016 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rtking (Post 227950)
I can't find that picture on the blog either. But that circular thing is actually the sight glass for the oil level. Nothing broken there. ;)

Hmmm. The more I look at it the more it looks like it could be a protective cover. Do all of the Chinese versions say "Cyclone" on the engine covers?


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