#Everide is going to review the rx-3
 

If you havent heard of this guy, I think he's pretty cool to watch, has good tips, videos and is pretty entertaining as a dual sport "vlogger" (and boy do I dislike that word). He is a pretty educated and well spoken guy whose opinions I don't always agree with, but it's nice to hear someone with actual thoughts and ideas be able to communicate them well. His review of the RX3 should be honest, non biased and entertaining. He's one of the 4 people I subscribe to on YouTube.

EDIT: He isn't just going to ride it and review it, he BOUGHT ONE. Now, while he admits he doesn't even like or want the bike, he bought it used, private party, and has no ties to CSC nor any other manufacturer, and the review will be in depth and cover (and I am speculating on this) some pretty hard core ADV rides, as well as mods to the bike. This should be good...

It's funny hearing he bought one... considering all the crap he talks about China Bikes on his videos/online posts... Hell must be freezing over as I type...

All that said... I like to watch both Everide Channels ;)

Never heard of him, but based on what you say, it sounds like he's a tad bit biased going in. Sounds like just another CB basher. Yawn.

Everyone I know is biased against China Bikes. What does bother me is that he bought a used bike and will be judging that. Who knows how it was set up, especially if it was out of the first "boat deal" when they shipped them direct to customer.

Granted, the bike wasn't even broke in yet so that's a plus.

I'm looking forward to this review....but he almost used CSC's sole propitiatory situation as a negative....and we all know that's incorrect. I've gotten better response and better customer service out of CSC than any Japanese dealership I've ever dealt with. Establishing a relationship with CSC is half the joy of owning this bike and he's not granting himself this opportunity.

These concerns aside, I'll be watching this with much interest.

Maybe it's just me, but when I watch the video in the OP, the guy sounds like he's primed for a hack job on the bike. I've never watched any of his other videos or even heard of him, but that's the impression I got from the video. I hope I'm wrong.

He'll give it an honest shot. It's not made for what he's going to do with it though. And he bought a 2015 orange that will turn yellow in a matter of weeks in the sun.

I know the guy has a ton of subscribers...myself among them. This guy can certainly have some influence over the popularity of the bike, as well as its reliability and it's "acceptance" into the ADV culture. I don't think he's going to sway any of us, as this seems like a mature crowd here and on the thread on ADVRider. I am very interested in following along as he's going to do some mods, and ride it further and harder than I probably will. I do hope it's not going to turn into a hate fest or just an all out juvenile bashing session for YouTube publicity/ratings. Like I said in my previous post, he seems educated, fair, well spoken and claims it will be honest and real. I hope it is.

CSaddict has a very salient point, I've seen what this guy does on his rides, and when he takes his KLR... I'd not take a KLR nor an RX3 on those rides. Also, he rebuilds the KLR pretty often, for fun or necessity I'm not sure. I'd hate to see him put the RX3 in a situation where it's set up to fail. It'd be like watching the American version of the Top Gear show, where you just know the car will end up as a smoking, twisted hulk as they (and their viewers) laugh their way to it's demise. It would be nice if the RX3 came out as a surprise badass....

Having followed the motovlogger scene for quite a while now, I can honestly say the following:
1) This video sounded more like a hatchet-job than an honest review.
2) It sounds like he's only ever bought used bikes, so I'm not sure I trust his opinion on "good bikes"
3) Not to make it personal, but under 50K does not a leading light in the motorcycle community make. (C2W has millions)
4) Its good to see some videos on the bike, even if its someone groaning about it being made in china.

I think he'll do alright reviewing the bike although he lives in Utah it looks like by the backdrop which may not be a great place for the RX3 with all the high speed limits and wind. He's going to see it from the perspective of a used bike buyer as well as someone dirt focused so I doubt he'll compare it favorably against the swarm of used KLRs and DR650s out there. The RX3 isn't bad by virtue or its weight in rough spots but it's very much lacking in suspension vs the previously mentioned bikes in dirt. I listed my honest negatives in the comments block below the video. The brakes, fuel range and really low mpg and limited speed in wind are my main lows. I'm also working through some top end ticking issue on it right now with Gerry. Putting valves in spec (checked twice) didn't fix the issue.

Pull the cam. Probably wiped out a lobe. Happened already.

Thank you for bringing up this point. In my entire life of buying decades worth of Dirt Bike Mag, Motocross Action, Cycle World, Cycle Guide, etc...etc... I've never until recently have seen people (online blogs mostly) compare a 250 against a 650. I mean, really? Of course a 250 isn't going to match up against something more than twice it's size, suspension and displacement.

I wonder what started this trend? It would be like saying back in the day, "We ran the Honda Elsinore 125 up against the Maico 450 and we were disappointed by its performance."

Good point, 2LZ, and I hope everide takes that into account.

On the other hand, there's not much comparable to the RX3 right now. You could compare it to other 250s on road. But I don't know any 250s in the US designed for touring. And you could compare it with the 250 offroad bikes, but that's more inline with the TT250, not the RX3.

I would love to see a head to head comparison between the RX3 and the Honda CB500x ... with comparable equipment (bars, bags, etc). That's the closest matchup in the US market that I can think of.

Be interesting to see a shootout with the RX3, RX4 450 and the Himalian, KTM 390 DS, CB500x ? rj
http://www.cycleworld.com/sites/cycl...4JS61&fc=50,50

2LZ.. good point. I think the comparison (to which there is really none) is due to the physiological factors in play. Hang on for this one people...

The nasty word is chinese. We Americans want to see our selfs as the innovators in quality and production in every thing . Unfortunately this has long passed. I remember in the mid 2000's looking for a laptop computer that was not assembled in China. I was never able to find one and chose an acer. I began to realize that everything in our society was manufactured in China. Was this bad...of course as far as domestic manufacturing jobs go, a big yes. But should we demonize the Chinese for playing a game which we invented? And whole heartedly participated in ? No... (harbor freight #1).

This leads me back to the video blog dude who, if he is trying to make a comparison of a klr and a rx3 , he is only being Patriotic in a sense. Now I understand there are Japanese bikes and German bikes etc but those have long since been considered under the Patriotic wing of the United States and her allied sphere and will naturally get favor. But a CHINESE adv motorcycle...oh pleeessse.

Thank you and good nite...please step away from the pitchforks and torches.

I hope it's not the same metallic tapping/ticking I had...... :cry:

Please keep us updated.

jb

LOL! You crack me up sometimes....

I get into that with people about the China Bikes and China in general, as well. On my old Victory site, I took HUGE FLACK for not buying American when I bought Q. I said, "If there was a "Milwaukee 200cc Dual Sport or a "Michigan 250 ADV bike", I'd be happy to go get one....BUT WE DON'T BUILD ANYTHING HERE ANYMORE!....and no one can blame China or anyone else, for taking advantage of the open and free market that we are not. (speaking of pitch forks).

In my mind, buying Japanese isn't buying American. It's buying Japanese and I don't owe them squat. The question is "which foreign country is going to give me the best bang for my buck?". Obviously, not Columbus Ohio or Bangor Maine.....or anyone else here. The smallest bike the U.S. builds is the Sporty and they suck on trails.

Bottom line, we don't have a ton of choices out there for small displacement get-arounds.

New vid on utube. He does walk back on some of somewhat negative comments made on the first vid. Looks like some pretty rough trails for the RX-3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZK8eouYKuk4

Rojo

Thanks for posting the new vid rojo. We'll see what happens.....
I think he may end up like many of us with China bikes and especially the RX3. Your somewhat surprised for how much it gives you, as compared to how much you were expecting....and it grows on you.

Some of those trails were pretty rough. I wonder if he has the 13T sprocket. I commented on his youtube channel and recommended it.

I'm looking forward to seeing more of his thrash sessions.

Yeah I've just not had any time to work on it since I got back from Newfoundland. Im glad it at least made it home. I set the valves twice but other than that it's been sitting on the lift for a month and I've been riding the Guzzi.

just keep in mind he is supported by patrons who primarily ride Japanese products and he needs to keep them happy. I cant speak for others but I've been the victim of Jap-owner bias when it comes to my Zong. They learned it from Harley owners so I reckon they feel it's comforting to look down their noses at a China rider. Piss on 'em. I know the RX3 I ride is a damned fine bike, proven dependability and more than acceptable quality & craftsmanship so reviews by a biased clown are meaningless to me. I've owned Harleys, Yamaha, Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki and a Husky so my personal experience is what I base my findings on. ... bottom line for anyone who is trying to make up their own mind - dont take my word for it and certainly dont listen to this assbag ... .. CALL CSC (800.884.4173) AND ASK FOR YOUR NEAREST AFFILIATE ! go look at it, sit on it and ride it and make up your own mind. The fact that he is a rider I can respect, his hatchet review :tdown:

On his Facebook page he's been talking about it a bit. The word *fun* has slipped out several times.

But we all know that.

And knowing you saved thousands.

:p

That was some pretty serious trail for a stock RX3. I wish he had equipped it to match the conditions of the test ... Lower gearing, better tires, lighter weight ... But maybe he's just establishing a baseline for now and will test accessories later.

I thought it was pretty juvenile of a "test". Its like watching the guys on the Top Gear show destroy the cars doing things far outside the design parameters. Everyone gets a big laugh out of it. The problem is there seem to be a lot of viewers interested in the bike and if it fails on purpose due to silly abuse, than that is misleading. Its like watching idiots rock crawl their Subaru's. Can the car do some off roading? Of course (I've had 4 of them and lived most of my life out West, so I know the desert and mountains) will it do as well as my Jeep 4 door Wrangler ? On fire roads, they do better, on rough stuff or deep mud/sand/snow, Hell no it won't. Analogy being the RX3 is more of a Subaru Outback. Use them for what they're intend for and you'll have a nice machine both before and after the trip. I don't want the dude to baby the thing, but there is a reason he's never ridden his precious KLR on that trail. Now all of a sudden he rides the RX3 on it? He has an actual dirt bike (WR250) and a highly modded DRZ...how can he even really compare? Right now, people are getting a kick out of how much abuse the bike can take. Long term, I fear it's setting the RX3 up to fail. Just one guy's .02

Yeah I'll be surprised if he doesn't break something doing those trails. The RX3 is definitely not a dirt bike. The Subaru Outback comparison is spot on. It gets pretty far into nasty places but so will a Honda Ruckus if you don't mind abusing it.

It does seem as though he's doing to the RX3 what I used to do to rental cars back in the day. Abuse it well beyond its means all for fun and laughs.

I can only speak for where I live and how I ride but to me, the RX3 is great for dirt roads and some light trails to find yer favorite fishin' hole...but really, really shines on paved tight twisties. I can easily drag my toe on the road (from the peg) without any hint of it becoming sketchy...and that's with the stock tires! In stock form this bike handles amazingly well. It's a shame but he's missing out on its true characteristics.

Too bad he wasn't around a generation ago when my grandfathers crew was giving my heavy flack about riding a Japanese bike.

But another way of seeing it... if the RX3 survives that kind of abuse, then more so will keep up with its intended use. It's clear for him and for his viewers that that's not what the RX3 is for. It's just for fun. One commenter asked "how many missing bolts after that?". None, you naysayer. So I'll keep racking miles (well ok, kilometers) in mine. By the way: although there's a lot of better choice of bikes to tackle terrain like that... I've been on travels where you have to do five hundred kilometers of two lane asphalt, then two hundred kilometers of packed dirt... and then a few kilometers like that. All in one day. And then I don't know if there's a bike more apt than the RX3 for -that-

Yeah like my Webster Pass trip. About 130 miles of pavement and 15 or so miles of trail. But I also setup the RX3 for the off-road portion ... wheels, tires, gearing, shock, fork oil, handlebar riser. It did awesome because I wanted it to succeed, not fail.

Watched the video last night and agree with AdventureDad. Testing the bike on conditions and terrain that it was not designed for in the stock configuration and trying to compare it to a modified /plated dirt bike and a heavily suspension modified KLR is not really a valid "test". I think the test is trying to find the failure point to say "I told you so" on the whole CB thing. He's beaten the bike pretty hard so far and its done really well. He may just end up proving how tough and reliable the RX-3 really is.

Yes of course. You have to prepare for it, and you have to want to keep it within the limits (bikes and yours). But man, it's rewarding...

Rojo and others, I agree. Just looking at the view counter, these RX3 videos have a much higher viewer count that a lot of his other videos. I read through the comments (and commented as well) and a LOT of folks, the vast majority are interested in the bike and hoping it fares well. There was a valid point made that if the bike survives the abuse then it will look even better, but on the other side of that coin, if it fails (and all bikes break parts) then will we get an "I told you so...blah blah...Chinese crap...blah blah..." that was mentioned. A while back, he did do a very fair comparison of the KLR and the Vstrom. It seemed non-biased and realistic to the design and most common usage of the respective bikes. I wish this one was more like that in regards to riding style and terrain. All said, I am glad the bike is getting "mainstream" exposure, and maybe with his group of dual sport friends, we will discover some good, cheap mods out of all this.

I have been following eveRide for quite a long while now. And boys & girls I must voice my thoughts & opinions here.
He will break it. Somewhere, somehow, I would bet a steak dinner on it.
1) He rides them ALL hard. He is TRYING to find it's weak spot. and he will
find that weak spot. Maybe tear off a front fork. Maybe split the swingarm into.
May blow the motor sky high. Who knows. But it will fail somehow. Test it till it breaks.
2) He will tell everyone to go get a used KLR650 instead of a new RX3 when it is all said and done. You just wait & see.
3) There is nothing, NOTHING else available in the USA made that one can realistically compare the RX3 to. ( as we all know here ). So he has no choice
but to compare it to what he has already ridden.

I am surprised, heck impressed even, how well it DID handle the terrain in yesterdays video!!! Not sure why he kept bogging it down. IT'S A 250, , , DOWNSHIFT DUM A**. . . . . lmao !!!!!

Can I have the steak dinner if I agree with you?

Man... I'm glad they didn't have test/shootouts like this when I was younger and reading bike mags. "Abuse it till it breaks" isn't a test of quality or craftsmanship, it's entertainment.

Agreed. As someone else wrote, this is the equivalent of Top Gear for automotive reviews. Entertaining? Yes. Useful? Not so much.

LOL, I typed a quite articulate and entertaining post earlier referencing Top Gear, but deleted it because I seem to make reference to that show too often, even though I haven't seen it in a few years.

Keep in mind, this is the guy's job. His livelihood. He makes money "selling" himself, based on some foreign-to-me YouTube algorithm of views. He's got to be over the top, do the unexpected, the out of the box stuff to keep it going. I get that. It's why these young actors/actresses act like total dumbasses. They have managers and agents telling them to do whatever it takes to stay in the spotlight. Forget the old days of class and style, have wardrobe "malfunctions" shoplift, get a DUI or 3, just stay in the spotlight, good or bad. Sad thing is we as a society eat it up.

I'm not saying he is like that, but I am looking forward to him doing things on the bike I won't or can't, and the mods that come from it. Also, a lot of the comments are positive, and people are interested in our bike, and that's a good thing.

Totally agree. I think that there's those out there who get the schtick but are really looking for something that suits their riding needs for a good price and value.
I'm sure there's a handful of people out there who are thinking "That China Bike hasn't broke YET!?"