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bountybuddy 12-12-2015 08:44 AM

Zongshen RX3 vs Honda CB500X
 
When I first saw the Honda CB500X I really wanted one and was ready to buy one after winter passes. Then I came across the Zongshen RX3 and started learning about. After seeing the video 5000 Miles At 8000 RPM I was sold on it and wanted to buy one. I have ordered the book. I have not ridden either of these motorcycles. I have not even sat on either of them. It may not be fair to compare a 250cc motorcycle to a 500cc motorcycle, but from what I have seen and read about the RX3 it will hold it's own against the CB500X. If you have any thoughts on the comparison of the RX3 and the CB500X please share them with me. I'm anxious to see what you have to say about this. Ride safe my friends.

SpudRider 12-12-2015 09:56 AM

I moved your thread to the RX3 Forum, where it will get greater exposure, and more replies. :)

The Honda CB500X is a very nice motorcycle. If you primarily want to ride on pavement, this bike is a good choice. However, even with the current $700 rebate, the $6,299 MSRP of the CB500X is much more expensive than the Zongshen RX3, and the CB500X doesn't have all the standard equipment included with the RX3. ;) In addition, the CB500X is much heavier, even in stock form, and it doesn't have the suspension, or the off road capabilities of the RX3. Furthermore, the Zongshen RX3 will have a much lower cost of ownership.

The answer for me is simple. I would much rather own a Zongshen RX3 than Honda CB500X. ;)

detours 12-12-2015 12:08 PM

Here's a good video review of the CB500X - http://www.motogeo.com/honda-cb500x-review/

I have not ridden the CB500X, but it has an advantage at highway speeds. But the RX3 has a lower seat, better ground clearance, more suspension travel, larger 18" front wheel (or optional 19"), spoked wheels and 70 mpg.

The RX3 is also 50 lbs lighter, fully equipped ... 100 lbs lighter if you remove the luggage and bars. Aftermarket accessories and parts for the RX3 will generally be cheaper than the Honda too. And CSC's service is consistently exceptional.

The RX3 has a few shortcomings that are easily addressed with inexpensive parts like sprockets, fork oil and a 55W headlight.

Overall, if someone were to give me a CB500X or an RX3 for free, I would still choose the RX3. It better matches the riding I want to do.

NoVa Rider 12-12-2015 01:31 PM

I'm a big fan of the CB500X just based on reviews and comments from owners. Haven't actually ridden one myself. That said, if I only could have one bike, I would seriously look for a CB500X at either a discount from a dealer or low mileage used. I think its a better all-round bike. More highway capability, more comfort, and more refinement.

Since I have another mid-sized Honda that is great on longer freeway trips, I have that part of the equation covered. I also have an older sportbike. My RX3 does everything else and its my most-used machine. Its fun to ride, great economy, easy to work on and farkle, and its a hoot being a part of the RX3 Club.

But my RX3 would leave me wanting more if it were my only bike. Again, if I could only have one bike, I'd go for the CB500X.

SpudRider 12-12-2015 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detours (Post 200399)
Here's a good video review of the CB500X - http://www.motogeo.com/honda-cb500x-review/

I have not ridden the CB500X, but it has an advantage at highway speeds. But the RX3 has a lower seat, better ground clearance, more suspension travel, larger 18" front wheel (or optional 19"), spoked wheels and 70 mpg.

The RX3 is also 50 lbs lighter, fully equipped ... 100 lbs lighter if you remove the luggage and bars. Aftermarket accessories and parts for the RX3 will generally be cheaper than the Honda too. And CSC's service is consistently exceptional.

The RX3 has a few shortcomings that are easily addressed with inexpensive parts like sprockets, fork oil and a 55W headlight.

Overall, if someone were to give me a CB500X or an RX3 for free, I would still choose the RX3. It better matches the riding I want to do.

As always, thanks for you considered, thoughtful input. Also, thanks for posting the link to the video review of the CB500X. :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuEsZ9FlJLw

SpudRider 12-12-2015 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoVa Rider (Post 200411)
I'm a big fan of the CB500X just based on reviews and comments from owners. Haven't actually ridden one myself. That said, if I only could have one bike, I would seriously look for a CB500X at either a discount from a dealer or low mileage used. I think its a better all-round bike. More highway capability, more comfort, and more refinement.

Since I have another mid-sized Honda that is great on longer freeway trips, I have that part of the equation covered. I also have an older sportbike. My RX3 does everything else and its my most-used machine. Its fun to ride, great economy, easy to work on and farkle, and its a hoot being a part of the RX3 Club.

But my RX3 would leave me wanting more if it were my only bike. Again, if I could only have one bike, I'd go for the CB500X.

Thanks for sharing your detailed, helpful reply, NoVa. :) Indeed, if someone wants to ride primarily on pavement, with a few gravel roads added to the mix, the CB500X is an excellent choice. :tup:

However, I enjoy riding off road too much. I wouldn't want to be limited to one motorcycle, but if I were, I couldn't give up the versatility of a dirt bike, or dual sport motorcycle. If I had to pare down my current stable of motorcycles, I would keep my street legal, Honda CRF250X. My next choice would be my Honda XR650L.

If I sold all my current motorcycles, and I were buying another new bike, I would probably choose a Honda CRF450X, as the best compromise between the two Hondas I currently own. The Zongshen RX3 is the farthest compromise I am willing to make for comfort on the pavement, at the expense of off road capability. Therefore, it's my bias toward off road riding which leads me to prefer the Zongshen RX3 over the Honda CB500X. ;)

katflap 12-12-2015 06:25 PM

A bit off topic, sorry,
Here's 2 500cc bikes i stumbled across from Benelli 2016

Pretty cool i thought :)


http://bikes.motobank.co.uk/2016/Ben..._502/White.jpg

http://www.benelli.co.uk/new-bike-de...-TREK-502-2016

http://bikes.motobank.co.uk/2016/Ben...oncino/Red.jpg
http://www.benelli.co.uk/new-bike-de...-Leoncino-2016

SpudRider 12-12-2015 06:36 PM

It's always great to hear from you, Kat. :) Indeed, those are nice motorcycles. Benelli is making some interesting bikes. :tup:

jbfla 12-12-2015 06:51 PM

That Benelli Leoncino reminds me of the new Ducati Scrambler.

Are Benelli's sold in the US?

As far as the Honda CB500x, I think it would be my choice if I could only have one bike, and didn't do off road riding.

I took a close look at the Honda. There was a local dealer that had new, left over 2013 and 2014's in the $5k range.

I decided on the RX3 for the lower price and the off-road capabilities.

jb

DanKearney 12-13-2015 10:36 AM

I'd really like to see one of the moto magazines do a comparo test of the RX-3, CB500X, and BMW F700GS/G650GS.

We all know the RX-3 would lose the highway portion of the comparo (Just because of its top speed limitations), but I bet it would win both the canyon carving and off-road portions. And if the test included urban traffic riding, I think the RX-3 would be on top there too.

Cheers,

Dan K.

culcune 12-13-2015 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbfla (Post 200431)

Are Benelli's sold in the US?

jb

They are represented by SSR, and have links, and show bikes on the SSR site, but it seems like there are no bikes in the US as of yet.

http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/

Jay In Milpitas 12-13-2015 03:58 PM

Just my opinion, but two positives I see in the design of the CB500X are:

1. Less prominent beak. I'm not enamored of that GS styling aspect on the RX-3.

2. Looks to be a plastic bash plate guard under the front of the engine, so it will tear off if hitting a log or rock instead of hanging the bike up. That's a good thing, yes?

My RX-3 will never be my only bike as I will always probably keep an interstate burner in the garage. But I can foresee always keeping it as long as I'm able to stay up on 2 wheels.

jbfla 12-13-2015 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by culcune (Post 200455)
They are represented by SSR, and have links, and show bikes on the SSR site, but it seems like there are no bikes in the US as of yet.

http://www.ssrmotorsports.com/

Thanks.

jb

Danimal 12-13-2015 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanKearney (Post 200452)
I'd really like to see one of the moto magazines do a comparo test of the RX-3, CB500X, and BMW F700GS/G650GS.

We all know the RX-3 would lose the highway portion of the comparo (Just because of its top speed limitations), but I bet it would win both the canyon carving and off-road portions. And if the test included urban traffic riding, I think the RX-3 would be on top there too.

Cheers,

Dan K.

I've got something to say about this to anyone listening...I've beat the living snot out of my RX3 the last 6 weeks. The last three weekends I have joined group ADV rides flying around all kinds of backroads and trails in Ohio.
Aside from making new friends (which is good), I have marked SOOOO many exquisite roads and trails on my GPS it'll keep me happy for years, as there are spurs off of these as well.
And riding alongside the following bikes...Yamaha WR250R (four different ones), Several KLRs all farkled...yesterday a GS1200 Beemer...a SuperTenare...Veestroms, KTMs,, you freaking name it.
And the RX3 can hang right there in the worst with them.
It's fast enough for hauling mail on roads not intended for mail. And the power and top speed the big bikes offer? Unusable on these backroads and trails. Literally.
And a detriment when you go down or break down compared to the RX3s simplicity.
Really kinda amazed at the damn competency of this bike.

Jay In Milpitas 12-13-2015 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danimal (Post 200483)
I've got something to say about this to anyone listening...I've beat the living snot out of my RX3 the last 6 weeks. The last three weekends I have joined group ADV rides flying around all kinds of backroads and trails in Ohio.
Aside from making new friends (which is good), I have marked SOOOO many exquisite roads and trails on my GPS it'll keep me happy for years, as there are spurs off of these as well.
And riding alongside the following bikes...Yamaha WR250R (four different ones), Several KLRs all farkled...yesterday a GS1200 Beemer...a SuperTenare...Veestroms, KTMs,, you freaking name it.
And the RX3 can hang right there in the worst with them.
It's fast enough for hauling mail on roads not intended for mail. And the power and top speed the big bikes offer? Unusable on these backroads and trails. Literally.
And a detriment when you go down or break down compared to the RX3s simplicity.
Really kinda amazed at the damn competency of this bike.

Where's the freakin' *Like* button? Way to go, Dan.

SpudRider 12-13-2015 11:59 PM

X2. :tup:

SpudRider 12-14-2015 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay In Milpitas (Post 200466)
... Looks to be a plastic bash plate guard under the front of the engine, so it will tear off if hitting a log or rock instead of hanging the bike up. That's a good thing, yes?...

No, the log or rock will tear off the exhaust headers, and then hang you up. ;)

http://bikersnews.net/wp-content/upl...b500x_1132.jpg

keithmaine 12-14-2015 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danimal (Post 200483)
I've got something to say about this to anyone listening...I've beat the living snot out of my RX3 the last 6 weeks. The last three weekends I have joined group ADV rides flying around all kinds of backroads and trails in Ohio.
Aside from making new friends (which is good), I have marked SOOOO many exquisite roads and trails on my GPS it'll keep me happy for years, as there are spurs off of these as well.
And riding alongside the following bikes...Yamaha WR250R (four different ones), Several KLRs all farkled...yesterday a GS1200 Beemer...a SuperTenare...Veestroms, KTMs,, you freaking name it.
And the RX3 can hang right there in the worst with them.
It's fast enough for hauling mail on roads not intended for mail. And the power and top speed the big bikes offer? Unusable on these backroads and trails. Literally.
And a detriment when you go down or break down compared to the RX3s simplicity.
Really kinda amazed at the damn competency of this bike.

Awesome Dan :clap::clap:

Huck369 12-14-2015 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danimal (Post 200483)
I've got something to say about this to anyone listening...I've beat the living snot out of my RX3 the last 6 weeks. The last three weekends I have joined group ADV rides flying around all kinds of backroads and trails in Ohio.
Aside from making new friends (which is good), I have marked SOOOO many exquisite roads and trails on my GPS it'll keep me happy for years, as there are spurs off of these as well.
And riding alongside the following bikes...Yamaha WR250R (four different ones), Several KLRs all farkled...yesterday a GS1200 Beemer...a SuperTenare...Veestroms, KTMs,, you freaking name it.
And the RX3 can hang right there in the worst with them.
It's fast enough for hauling mail on roads not intended for mail. And the power and top speed the big bikes offer? Unusable on these backroads and trails. Literally.
And a detriment when you go down or break down compared to the RX3s simplicity.
Really kinda amazed at the damn competency of this bike.


Agree :)

rojo_grande 12-14-2015 11:17 AM

I'm jealous
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danimal (Post 200483)
I've got something to say about this to anyone listening...I've beat the living snot out of my RX3 the last 6 weeks. The last three weekends I have joined group ADV rides flying around all kinds of backroads and trails in Ohio.
Aside from making new friends (which is good), I have marked SOOOO many exquisite roads and trails on my GPS it'll keep me happy for years, as there are spurs off of these as well.
And riding alongside the following bikes...Yamaha WR250R (four different ones), Several KLRs all farkled...yesterday a GS1200 Beemer...a SuperTenare...Veestroms, KTMs,, you freaking name it.
And the RX3 can hang right there in the worst with them.
It's fast enough for hauling mail on roads not intended for mail. And the power and top speed the big bikes offer? Unusable on these backroads and trails. Literally.
And a detriment when you go down or break down compared to the RX3s simplicity.
Really kinda amazed at the damn competency of this bike.


I'm jealous. I would love to spend that much time out and about on the RX3 (marzhere's bike but she lets me get seat time). I am becoming more impressed with the bike over time as well. Will be on the CSC Baja trip in March for the next extended rides on the bike. I'm limited in Colorado now to some blue bird days when the roads are clear.

The RX3 does not have as much low end power as my KLR (stock except for $.22 mod on carb) but is more than capable on the dirt county roads and forest service roads I've been on so far. The weight and handling of the RX3 is great compared to the KLR. The comfortable hwy cruising speed is not much lower on the RX3 vs. KLR so not really a negative.

I've had several people at work stop me in the parking lot asking about the RX3. I can't praise it highly enough. Then when I tell them the price they are blown away.

Rojo

bountybuddy 12-14-2015 01:33 PM

Many thanks to all of you for replying to my post. I really enjoyed reading your reply's. In the spring I'll be buying an RX3. It's hard for me to stop thinking about it. I can't wait to get it. I hope our paths cross on some of the rides. Ride safe my friends.

Jay In Milpitas 12-15-2015 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bountybuddy (Post 200554)
Many thanks to all of you for replying to my post. I really enjoyed reading your reply's. In the spring I'll be buying an RX3. It's hard for me to stop thinking about it. I can't wait to get it. I hope our paths cross on some of the rides. Ride safe my friends.

How are your wrenching skills, Buddy?

Lee R 12-15-2015 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Danimal (Post 200483)
I've got something to say about this to anyone listening...I've beat the living snot out of my RX3 the last 6 weeks. The last three weekends I have joined group ADV rides flying around all kinds of backroads and trails in Ohio.
Aside from making new friends (which is good), I have marked SOOOO many exquisite roads and trails on my GPS it'll keep me happy for years, as there are spurs off of these as well.
And riding alongside the following bikes...Yamaha WR250R (four different ones), Several KLRs all farkled...yesterday a GS1200 Beemer...a SuperTenare...Veestroms, KTMs,, you freaking name it.
And the RX3 can hang right there in the worst with them.
It's fast enough for hauling mail on roads not intended for mail. And the power and top speed the big bikes offer? Unusable on these backroads and trails. Literally.
And a detriment when you go down or break down compared to the RX3s simplicity.
Really kinda amazed at the damn competency of this bike.

I AGREE.

I've owned the KLR 650, the Vstrom DL650 and I have a Moto Guzzi Stelvio in my garage with the RX3.

This bike is a better choice for anything involving dirt than any of those including the KLR. The big bikes are better for anything that involves going over 65mph. The Stelvio is terrifying on anything more than an improved dirt road due to weight. Some lunatic's can do it but one slip and your looking at a pricey mistake.

http://www.advpulse.com/wp-content/u...uzzi-013-2.jpg

SpudRider 12-15-2015 02:42 PM

That kind of riding is why I own a dirt bike. :wtf: When I fall, my CRF250X doesn't get damaged, and I only have to lift 260 pounds after I drop it. ;)

Lee R 12-15-2015 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 200642)
That kind of riding is why I own a dirt bike. :wtf: When I fall, it doesn't get damaged, and I only have to lift 260 pounds after I drop it. ;)

Yes, these big ADV bikes can be ridden like a dirtbike by very talented people, average rider's are probably only going to hurt themselves or their wallet attempting that! RX3 is a far far better choice!

They sell big ADV by showing you Chris Birch and letting you think you even have a tiny amount of that ability: ( I would like to see him on an RX3 lol!

https://youtu.be/NpCubYprqFQ

SpudRider 12-15-2015 08:14 PM

Egads! That man can ride. :tup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpCubYprqFQ

Wolftrax 12-16-2015 09:24 PM

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Not all CB500X's are created equal. For the price of a couple RX3's, you can have a very competent 50/50 Adventure Bike. Here's mine.

SpudRider 12-16-2015 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolftrax (Post 200798)
Not all CB500X's are created equal. For the price of a couple RX3's, you can have a very competent 50/50 Adventure Bike. Here's mine.

Hello there, stranger! It's good to hear from you. :)

That's a nice bike. :tup: What modifications did you make to the stock CB500X, and how much did they cost?

Lee R 12-16-2015 11:27 PM

Ralley raid kit?

detours 12-17-2015 01:51 AM

Looks like Rally Raid. They make a great multi stage kit that transforms the CB500X suspension.

pete 12-17-2015 03:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpudRider (Post 200679)
Egads! That man can ride. :tup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpCubYprqFQ

He has a few exstreme enduro titles to his name...
Romaniacs / Roof of Africa / Elzburg Rodeo... so on...
He runs a Enduro school over here when he's not riding..

SpudRider 12-17-2015 05:09 AM

You turned me on to the extreme enduros, Pete. Those races are crazy. ;) Johnny Walker won the 2015 Romaniacs. :tup:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAmUT0nkTh8

SpudRider 12-17-2015 05:21 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aJXAkIOIDU

keithmaine 12-17-2015 06:35 AM

Romaniacs are awesome, I watch a lot these videos along with trials videos.

Tiger12XC 06-09-2016 12:40 PM

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Wife just took delivery of her new 2016 CB500X yesterday and she loves it. I took a spin on it once we got home and that thing is nice I must say. I need to add that it is not an off road bike, we have the RX3's for that, it maybe ok on light dirt road but would need upgrades in suspension and tires to do anything more at $2800.00 the Rally Raid stage three would do the trick but we are talking $10,000.00 all in not counting luggage and farkles. She did not buy it for off roading, she bought it to run with me on my long 1000+ mile weekends I do on the Triumph Tiger Explorer XC. I run 80-90+ MPH the freeway (still being passed by cars and trucks) and she does not want to be a passenger on those trips.

2LZ 06-09-2016 01:50 PM

Very nice bike. Congrats! I was looking at the NC700X a few years ago but it just wasn't the right time.
Mrs. 2LZ is doing the opposite of what your wife is doing. She has her Kingpin for the street and long hauls, but now she is seriously downsizing to the TT250 for local running and dirt roading. Compared to the Vic, she'll be able to flick around the TT.

dpl096 06-09-2016 08:54 PM

Good looking bike - Congratulations to the lady of the manor!

BlackBike 06-09-2016 09:59 PM

That's a beautiful ride.

detours 06-09-2016 11:14 PM

Congrats on the new ride! It's a great bike stock and the rally raid upgrades are really something!

Motocrazy 06-13-2016 09:45 PM

I have both
 
Bounty Buddy,

I have both bikes. I bought the RX3 first for a commuter bike and light offroad. Not that it can't do much more. But after just a few weeks I needed more power for freeway use. After seeing some videos of the CB500X with the Rally Raid Stage 3 kit. I fell in love. Don't let anyone tell you the CB500X won't go off road. Stock it has seriously crappy suspension but I threw some good knobbies on the front and back and I've ripped down some trails I didn't think I should have gone. But even stock the CB500X took it all in stride. I've purchased the Rally Raid stage 2 kit already and I'm just waiting on it's arrival. I picked up my 2013 CB500X with 3,400 miles on it for $3700.00. I had to drive 8 hours both ways to get it but the bike is becoming one of my all time favorite bikes. And at 52 yrs old I've had alot :yay: I still ride my RX3 at least 3 time a week to work but I know in the long run the Honda will outlast the Zong. My Goldwing currently has 157,000 miles on it and I don't see it croaking anytime soon. Anyway I thought I'd throw my .02 cents worth in the ring. :D Enjoy doesn't mater what bike you have it's always better than not having one at all.


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