Can a 12 year old drive a brozz?
 

I'm a 12-year-old with some experience driving a 250cc scooter. This will be my first bike, would I be able to ride it? is it the right bike? where is the cheapest price?
my budget is about $2000 (I wish it was more but...)
I'm looking to take it around my neighborhood and a few trails, can it fit in a minivan?

My son is 14 and at around 5'7" he almost flat foots the bike. However, he still needs to grow into it. Being a 300 pound bike and tall for him, he is at more risk to drop it on the trails and when he does he can't lift it up alone.
With that being said you'd do better with his former bike or something similar to a Tao DBX1

By the time I was 15 I had owned a 175 two stroke kawasaki, a 250 two stroke suzuki, a 500 triple suzuki (I started on mini bikes and honda 50). My buddies where a little younger and had an RM250 and kx80.

They all had more power and heavier than our Chonda 250s. So I say if you can reach everything and you don't ride beyond your abilities, it MAY be OK. Let's face it, on a bad day I could wreck a moped. Lol

You won't be legally allowed to ride on the street for several more years to come (assuming your in the US) anyway, so a dual sport isn't really necessary. A better bike for a 12 yo might be something like this Viper DB-W001 150cc https://www.powersportsmax.com/produ...ducts_id/17666
It's a little smaller and a little lighter, and that can make a huge difference. And actually, this is the bike that will be arriving this week for my 11 yo.

Don't know where you're located, but I see 150cc bikes used all the time for cheap. Kids outgrow them, and their parents just want to unload them. There's one near me for $200.

yeah, what is that list for (the bikes) I have heard about the recon, but don't know the difference

I think the bikes you should be focusing on are in the 110cc, 125cc and 140cc range. These should be small enough to fit in a minivan, i doubt the Brozz will unless handlebars removed and it being jimmied in a slanted position to make it fit.
Plus these bikes will be fast, fun and easy to learn on and master in the dirt and if you wipe out, easy to pick up as well as transport.

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This attaches to any standard trailer hitch. Some minivans have trailer hitches. It's easier to secure a motorcycle to this carrier than to strap it down inside a minivan.


https://www.harborfreight.com/400-lb...ier-62837.html



My daughter is 13. I bought her a 2021 CSC TT250 for Christmas. It is way too much bike for her right now, but I got it for a fantastic price. She's tall at 5' 4" but doesn't have the upper body strength to manage it right now. It weighs a bit over 300 lbs. In the next couple of years, she will grow into it. I explained that her foray into the world of dual sports will be in stages and take time. She's totally cool with that.

If you really need a street legal bike because of the headlight and taillight, I suggest this bike. https://www.orionpowersports.com/ori...embled-tested/

Nearly full-size, but shorter seat height, and even though you will be wearing boots, a lower seat height will give you far more confidence being a new rider.

If you do not need lights, then I suggest any number of pit bikes in the 125cc-150cc range to learn on (I do suggest a manual transmission to learn how to shift), with the bonus being very low price point. As someone pointed out, you might find some in the few hundred dollar range which will be a bonus.

That being said, you might want to consider a semi-automatic transmission due to your age. You are only 12 so have a few years until you are able to legally ride on the street, so practice makes perfect.

A dual-sport is not necessarily recommended unless you are really riding on trails as opposed to dirt bike riding. The dual-sports can take abuse, but up to a point and are really not designed as 'dirtbikes'. The Orion I linked to is kid of technically a 'dual-sport' due to having full lighting, BUT is more of a dirt bike with street lighting, and I do feel you should be leaning towards a dirtbike at this point being a new rider. When you are going to street ride, then I suggest a proper dual-sport like the Brozz.

Let us know what you decide. :tup:

can that bike carry passengers? just curious. I'm not going to be taking anyone on a ride anytime soon lol.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y6cWZMoBcCQ
Should have no issue with a little Brozz .

The problem with orion is that there are 0 reviews online and no videos whatsoever. I don't want to take such a big risk on a bike that nobody buys.

I agree with what Britt is saying here. IMO, you shouldn't be looking for a bike with lightning. The temptation to ride on the street and/or at night might be too great. Best to keep safe and legal. And yes, I'm speaking from experience. Got caught by the police driving on the road at your age. They didn't care that I was just "using the road to get from trail to trail."

One of the reasons im happy that we sold my son's Tao DBX1 and i passed my Brozz along to him, is that sinces its registered/insured and plated, we can ride together on gravel roads near the house without fear of being stopped if a cop happens to be driving by.. plus he gets to learn the rules of the road, signaling, stop lights/signs, etc. for later on.

is he my age?

he's 14.. i bought him the Tao DBX1 at 13 for his birthday and he learned and rode it for a year before wanting something bigger

here's what a 13 year old after a few months of learning can do on a Tao DBX1 140cc :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s51OtQtPJtk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUEUZi0spFI

Video isnt working, can you just explain please?

I just clicked my video from your post and it worked just fine .Anyways what is there to explain?its a 10 year old kid ,hopping on a 450 Ktm race bike and riding it on a motocross track with no issues .If a 10 year old can ride that ,a 12 year old can ride a 250 with only 1/4 the power and much less suspension .

But I suspect that's not the typical 10 yo kid, and I suspect that isn't even close to his first bike.

That’s Dangerboy Deegan ,he is 15 now and races for Star Yamaha ,at the time of the video he was racing 60cc bikes ,but it seems you missed the point ,he was only 10 and was fully capable of riding a much larger bike than what the older OP is asking about .Many here are steering the OP into buying a smaller bike ,the kid is 12 and should be growing ,he certainly can ride a china 250 with just a small fraction of the power and size the 10 year old above was riding .

I didn't miss your point at all. I simply wanted to suggest I don't think your point is particularly relevant to the OP.
Can a 12 yo ride a Brozz? Certainly. You're video clearly shows that. However, the OP is actually trying to determine if HE should buy a bike that size, and the answer to that question is a somewhat different matter.

Agreed, it should be easy to ride, yes, in a straight line, on even trails/easy trails but throw in obstacles, steep inclines, etc and thats when you want a bike that is easy for you to manage, ie, you are tall enough to control.
Case in point, my son on the Brozz steers clear of steep hills and obstacles that he would without hesitation have taken with the Tao DBX1. I guess after slipping into a rut on a muddy decline and then wiping out and subsequently lifting and then dropping the bike a number of times as it was too heavy has made him much more cautious to what he can and cant do with it..

Im in nc, where do you see there bikes?

How tall is he?

About 5' 7"

So Yes Or No?
 

I would like a brozz or csc

What about lifan x-pect
 

and on amazon there's an x-pro lifan x-pect, what is the difference?:lmao:

Reminder:
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Pretty sure there's no difference, they just slap their branding on it. I got mine from Venom Motor Sports, and a few other places sell them. They're all the same bike.

Its alot cheaper with x-pro

Welcome to the world of China bikes. :lmao: You will see a lot of that between the different dealers. They will just slap some sticker on it to separate it from the rest.

Your biggest decision will not be on what bike but what dealer. Be aware of the Manny own dealerships. Some have been lucky with no issues and some just get plain screwed. Your best dealers will be folks like Venom Motorsports, CSC, Orion Powersports and PowerSportsMax. Venom, Brozz250 and CSC will be at the top of the list.

Now back to your original post. If you planning on stuffing any of the larger bikes in the back of a mini van that might be an issue. Being that you are 12 and it will be a few years before you can even think about riding on the street. I would seriously look into smaller 125-150cc dirt bikes. I did a quick search o Facebook Marketplace here locally and found lots of hardly used Chinese dirt bikes for $400-600 range. At the age of 13-15 i rode larger 185cc dirt bikes and found the smaller 100-125cc dirt bike were easier to handle, lighter and were way more fun to ride. By the time you hit 15 you will be a much better rider and then you can look for something street legal. Hell even at my age i still ride one of my buddies 125cc dirt bikes and love it.

Thing is that my parents are already against getting a bike but they might agree 1 time, there’s no way they will get me another in 3 years

Well in three years you should be able to save enough money to buy a new bike on your own. I grew up poor so every bike, car or truck I owned I had to work for. Take good care of the bike you are getting and show some effort into earning that money for the next bike, I'm sure they would agree to help on the next one.

Most of us (if not all) older people on this forum are parents. And as such, most will meet their child at least half way on a purchase as long as they've (the child) shown responsibility by following the rules that everyone has agreed to. You might want to discuss your future plans with them to see what they are willing to do.