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jjn 11-10-2015 01:27 PM

interesting bike from Genuine Motorcycles
 
The article says the engine is made by Shineray. Looks pretty nice to me, and is a couple thousand dollars less than the Yamaha SR400.

http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genu...ycle-for-2016/

Mudflap 11-10-2015 02:55 PM

Great looking bike. I really like the retro styling, and 400cc is a great size for all around street use including freeway commuting.

Huck369 11-10-2015 03:36 PM

I like it!

humanbeing 11-10-2015 04:41 PM

It's based from CB400SS
http://www.honda.co.jp/pressroom/pro...0ss_2001-10-10
https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%83...3%83%BBCB400SS
Street term in chinese: 棍王 ("stick king" cuz early model is kickstart ONLY).

Weldangrind 11-11-2015 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huck369 (Post 197297)
I like it!

X2! I want that motor.

jct842 11-11-2015 02:22 AM

They have a winner for sure.

SpudRider 11-11-2015 03:48 AM

I like that bike a lot. :tup: It reminds me of my first motorcycle, a 1979 Honda CB400T. However, I like the single cylinder, and the Siemens fuel injection better on this motorcycle. :)

http://i835.photobucket.com/albums/z...400HanwkT1.jpg

http://www.scooterfile.com/wp-conten...M-1050x736.png

Huck369 11-11-2015 07:22 AM

Spud, my first street bike was a 400 Hawk too....in blue

culcune 11-11-2015 12:54 PM

Since Genuine are designing bikes to be retro, I would like to see an old enduro style bike next. A 250 thumper. Low enough seat for beginners. Kind of like the same idea that CCW has been doing a few years now with their Heist, MIsfit, and Ace. Heck, if CCW built a retro enduro with their proprietary single, I would take it!

SpudRider 11-11-2015 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huck369 (Post 197387)
Spud, my first street bike was a 400 Hawk too....in blue

I borrowed that photo of the black, Hawk 400 from the internet. ;) However, my bike looked exactly like that one. I had a lot of fun on that Honda Hawk, and looking at this Genuine G400C brings back good memories. :)

jjn 11-11-2015 01:30 PM

My best friend from grade school, through high school, had a blue Honda 400 Hawk. He later sold it to his sister. He passed away about 5 years ago now.

Here is the 400 Hawk model that I liked best:

http://motorbike-search-engine.co.uk...nda-cb400t.jpg

wheelbender6 11-14-2015 09:21 PM

Genuine Scooter 400cc motorcycle for 2016
 
Genuine Scooter Co will offer a G400C small motorcycle in 2016.
Looks like Genuine has given up on producing a maxi scooter.
Unlike their scooters, it appears that the G400C will be built in mainland China, like the Mash Five Hundred.
http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genu...ycle-for-2016/
http://www.scooterfile.com/wp-conten...PM-330x220.png

SpudRider 11-14-2015 09:56 PM

Yes, that's a nice motorcycle. :) There is another thread started on this topic at the following link. ;)

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=15482

wheelbender6 11-15-2015 08:39 AM

I believe the Genuine 400 is a single with dual exhaust ports, like the Honda XR 400 and the old XL500. That's what they told me on the ModernBuddy forum.

wheelbender6 11-15-2015 08:40 AM

Thanks for the link, Spud.

Weldangrind 11-15-2015 12:32 PM

That's what I figured. I wonder if an XR400 header would fit, rather than twin pipes. It would give it a scrambler look.

SpudRider 11-15-2015 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjn (Post 197414)
My best friend from grade school, through high school, had a blue Honda 400 Hawk. He later sold it to his sister. He passed away about 5 years ago now.

Here is the 400 Hawk model that I liked best:

http://motorbike-search-engine.co.uk...nda-cb400t.jpg

My goodness, except for the red stripes, that is the bike I owned. :doh: I had a 1979 Honda Hawk II, with the Comstar wheels. :) I didn't notice the spoked wheels on the previous photo I posted. ;) Once again, I borrowed the following photograph from the internet. ;)

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u...0t_hawk006.jpg

Once again, I borrow this photograph from the internet. ;)

SpudRider 11-15-2015 01:31 PM

You're welcome. :)

trailrider 11-26-2015 07:10 PM

Genuine's 400cc Motorcycle
 
Have any of you read about or seen the new "motorcycle" that Genuine Scooter Co. will soon be importing into the USA?:yay:
It's an updated version of the Honda CB400 from the 60's and 70's.
Read about it in C2W Magazine. A little bigger displacement, more horsepower and ride ability. A 400cc, 4valve, air cooled, both electric/kick start, thumper. Basically a modernized Hondaoid from the past. It supposedly will be available at Geniune's 200 USA dealers.:tup:
I'm looking forward to viewing and riding this new (old) Chinese motorcycle.

Mag00 11-26-2015 08:03 PM

http://www.scooterfile.com/wp-conten...M-1050x736.png

Weldangrind 11-26-2015 08:55 PM

Yes, I've seen it referenced on this forum before, but I'm always happy to chat about it. :D

The motor is closer to a CRF motor than a CB, since it's actually a single. I'm falling in love with it. I'm already visualizing it with a set of clip-ons and rearsets.

humanbeing 11-26-2015 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 199013)
The motor is closer to a CRF motor than a CB, since it's actually a single...

It's powered by a NC38E clone :hehe: XR400M ('06-'08) had that engine

Barnone 11-27-2015 12:15 AM

Interesting new addition.

jct842 11-27-2015 02:07 PM

Looks like genuine has more smarts than a lot of the japs. A maxie scooter is just a waste of every thing. They do nothing well and cost almost double or more than the new genuine 400. But for the uncorordinated who can't learn to shift and 10 grand of extra money......
I bought a majesty when my knee was so bad I wasn't sure I could hold a bandit up at a stop light, big mistake, should have waited till I had the knee replaced and kept the bike

Weldangrind 11-28-2015 05:16 PM

I like maxi scooters for what they are. If it's your only vehicle, it sure is handy to be able to transport groceries home on the hooks between your knees, in the trunk and under the seat. Forum member AtomicWedgie had a Silverwing 600, and it was a pleasure to ride. It cornered really well, and it had a nice low CG. It would cruise comfortably on the highway all day long.

A similar sized sport bike doesn't have any storage, unless you start adding tank bags, etc. I realize that a sport bike is built for a different purpose, but they're certainly far from utilitarian. A DS can be fitted with a trunk and panniers, but a maxi scooter is designed for cargo right out of the box. It just depends on what your needs are.

/hijack

keithmaine 11-28-2015 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Weldangrind (Post 199145)
I like maxi scooters for what they are. If it's your only vehicle, it sure is handy to be able to transport groceries home on the hooks between your knees, in the trunk and under the seat. Forum member AtomicWedgie had a Silverwing 600, and it was a pleasure to ride. It cornered really well, and it had a nice low CG. It would cruise comfortably on the highway all day long.

A similar sized sport bike doesn't have any storage, unless you start adding tank bags, etc. I realize that a sport bike is built for a different purpose, but they're certainly far from utilitarian. A DS can be fitted with a trunk and panniers, but a maxi scooter is designed for cargo right out of the box. It just depends on what your needs are.

/hijack

I had a Burgman 400 and it was an awesome ride

detours 12-01-2015 05:02 PM

I'm very interested in this bike. My wife has a TU250X, which she loves, but it's a bit small for me. The G400C is a little taller and longer and might be just the ticket. There's a Genuine Scooter shop near me, so it'll be easy to check them out in person when they come out next year.

Beanerds 12-01-2015 11:32 PM

:tup:That is one good looking bike , hit the nail on head in design and build , hope we get these down here , they would sell well I should think .
Beanerds

jjn 12-02-2015 12:53 AM

Here's the first test ride and review:

http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genu...0c-motorcycle/

SpudRider 12-02-2015 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjn (Post 199408)
Here's the first test ride and review:

http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genu...0c-motorcycle/

Thanks for posting the link to the review. I enjoyed reading it very much, and would love to see one of these bikes in person. :)

Cyborg 12-08-2015 01:00 AM

G400c
 
The bike is made by shinray in China to genuines spec,,,the factory made the bike for honda ,,,I can't wait for one,,,,

Weldangrind 12-08-2015 10:53 AM

Where did you find that info, Cyborg?

Cyborg 12-10-2015 09:31 AM

interesting bike from genuine motorcycles
 
All the info i can find on it is on scooterfile,,it has 3 writeups on it,, all exclusive to scooterfile ,,,first look,,first ride,,,details,,,,pretty good articles,,,i'm excited about this bike,,,and also i read (through scooterfile) that there's going to be extensive performance and upgrade parts available,,,,i hope genuine gets off their duffs about parts/service tho,,,,it may just be my local dealer but the parts availability is miserable (i own a 4t stella),,,and i get all my parts online ,, i do my own service so i'm not worried about that aspect of it but parts availability is a concern for me,,,i've been looking into crossreferencing Honda cb400ss parts but there are things like efi and a few other things propriatary to the bike,,all in all i'm looking forward to getting one,,and with a few judicious tweeks it can be a homerun for me

Cyborg 12-10-2015 07:26 PM

G400c
 
I was looking forward to seeing one at the ims in Los Angeles ,,,got busy with work and life and didn't notice that they had it in November instead of December like they've done since Moses was a kid,,,so I'm SOL,,,,,:doh: I love it when that happens

detours 12-20-2015 02:22 AM

Here's a detailed article about the G400C by the same writer of the ride report. The more I read about this bike, the more I like it.

http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genu...cle-in-detail/

SpudRider 12-20-2015 02:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by detours (Post 201065)
Here's a detailed article about the G400C by the same writer of the ride report. The more I read about this bike, the more I like it.

http://www.scooterfile.com/oems/genu...cle-in-detail/

I agree; it's a very nice motorcycle. :) I've been watching the 400cc Shineray engine in that bike for a while; it's a good engine. ;)

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=12001

detours 01-03-2016 11:11 AM

I went down to the Denver Genuine shop yesterday to ask about the G400C, and it looks like a fairly limited release of the bike.

They're only getting a few in the first shipment in March or April. Buyers can reserve one of those and choose the color, but after that you have to pre-order on the next shipment. They aren't going to buy a bunch and keep them in stock.

The shop was friendly, but their focus is obviously in scooters not motorcycles. They didn't have any brochures, specs or pics of the bike from Genuine yet. I couldn't find anything on the Genuine site either, just a few articles on scooterfile and some blog posts.

I'm still interested, but I admit it took some of the wind out of my sails to see how little marketing effort is going into this bike when the launch is only three months away.

SpudRider 01-03-2016 12:15 PM

Thanks for visiting the dealer and reporting back to us. :) It's too bad this nice little motorcycle is not generating much support from the dealers. :hmm:

detours 01-04-2016 02:07 AM

I have to say the dealer was disappointed too. They wished they had something to give me, but Genuine hasn't even sent out posters to their dealers. Kind of hard for the dealer to drum up preorders when they have nothing to show a prospective buyer.

The other thing was that - at least at this shop - they don't refund deposits ... store credit only. So if you reserve a G400C at Sportique Scooters and change your mind after it comes in, you're stuck with $500 credit at a scooter shop. It's a tough sell to order sight unseen, without even a brochure or final specs, even with the nice review on scooterfile.com

SpudRider 01-04-2016 04:50 AM

Thanks for posting the clarification. It seems the corporation itself is primarily responsible for the lack of support regarding the G400C. However, I do think the shop should refund your deposit if you change your mind about buying the motorcycle.


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