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Appel_1978 07-26-2018 04:24 PM

After market Fuel Mixture Screw????
 
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So i saw a youtube video on a guy showing how to tune your fuel mixture screw and he highly suggested an aftermarket one like this. Of course he was demonstrating on a Jap bike. But it would make all our lives easier if we had one of these on our tt250s. No more using specialty tools or having to to take carb off and adjusting screw a little at a time. and better yet you can adjust on the road if need be if traveling. So for everyones sake can someone let us know what jap bike fuel mixture screw is comparable to our TT250s, Hawks, Storms and other china factory carbs. and also the michuni variant would be nice also. So we can get one of these and swap the pain in the @$$ factory one out. it would make tuning these so much easier......Lests start with the TT250 since thats what i own hehe.

Chinabike 07-26-2018 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Appel_1978 (Post 286949)
So i saw a youtube video on a guy showing how to tune your fuel mixture screw and he highly suggested an aftermarket one like this. Of course he was demonstrating on a Jap bike. But it would make all our lives easier if we had one of these on our tt250s. No more using specialty tools or having to to take carb off and adjusting screw a little at a time. and better yet you can adjust on the road if need be if traveling. So for everyones sake can someone let us know what jap bike fuel mixture screw is comparable to our TT250s, Hawks, Storms and other china factory carbs. and also the michuni variant would be nice also. So we can get one of these and swap the pain in the @$$ factory one out. it would make tuning these so much easier......Lests start with the TT250 since thats what i own hehe.

I have this now on my hellcat 125cc just put it on yesterday, seems to work. on a vm22 carb

https://image.ibb.co/fWOrM8/IMG_0109.jpg

Chinabike 07-26-2018 04:36 PM

I also have the flex jet kind but it didn't fit perfect.

https://image.ibb.co/h7TPdJ/IMG_0624.jpg

Kingraider 07-27-2018 10:03 AM

where is the fuel mixture located on this carb?

Kingraider 07-27-2018 10:04 AM

i saw a spot on the bottom of my carb but there is a metal cap there

blanc12 07-27-2018 01:31 PM

I just ordered one for my hawk. I will let you know if it fits.

Chinabike 07-27-2018 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingraider (Post 286991)
where is the fuel mixture located on this carb?

bottom of my carb could be diff on yours. side or bottom

Appel_1978 07-27-2018 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingraider (Post 286991)
where is the fuel mixture located on this carb?

Im assuming you are talking about the TT250 which is what i have. It is located on bottom front (front as in closest to front of bike) of the carb. Im not sure what the new ones look like but on my 2015 the screw was grinded down to look like a brass cap. but you have to take carb off and use a dremmle and small cutting disc to make a slot to be able to use a flat head screw driver to adjust it and or remove it and replace it with one that already has a screw head.

Appel_1978 07-27-2018 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by blanc12 (Post 287012)
I just ordered one for my hawk. I will let you know if it fits.

If if fits does the hawk and tt250 have same fuel mixture screws? i know the carbs are different

blanc12 07-27-2018 07:50 PM

I saw a video of someone using the same one in a pz30 and a vm26. I think it might work.

Appel_1978 07-28-2018 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by blanc12 (Post 287034)
I saw a video of someone using the same one in a pz30 and a vm26. I think it might work.

So your saying a fuel mixture screw for a Makuni vm26 should work on the stock Hawk carb. Once that is confirmed then great we will have an answer to the Makuni carbs and the factory Hawk Carb. But what about the TT250s

Appel_1978 07-31-2018 11:29 AM

anybody with info on the tt250 carb

Kivi 07-31-2018 06:43 PM

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This is my self-made tool for mixture screw.

Red Hawk 07-31-2018 08:49 PM

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I tried the generic red screw sold on line, and it didn't fit. The shape is close but the threads are off. So I turned one out of brass. The metric threads were 6mm x.075. The tip was so thin, .030 inch. It wanted to snap off !

Appel_1978 07-31-2018 11:55 PM

Nice work Red Hawk thats exactly what i want for mine. Id pay you to turn me one but i assume you have the hawk due to your name and not the tt250

DaveinOC 08-04-2018 10:40 AM

Idle Screw and Mikuni VM26 Clone on TT250
 
I bought one of the red screws and it fit fine on my Mikuni vm26 clone. The needle taper looks a bit different but it seems to work ok. I still have some work to do dialing in the Mikuni, but accel and off idle are now working fine - I just have a pretty bad backfire on closed throttle higher rpms. Here is what I have done to date:
  • Aftermarket exhaust "like everybody else has"
  • Airbox delete, trash can mod and pod air filter
  • Mikuni VM26 clone carb
  • Extended idle fuel mix screw
  • Jetting is (I think) 120 main / 25 pilot
  • Needle in 4th slot (1 rich from center)
I am pretty close on the carburetion but need to dial in the pilot mixture a bit more. The extended screw fitted fine, but forget requesting a color, I asked for black or silver and got red, LOL.

Before I dropped the needle clip to richen it up I had a bad hesitation just off idle, and richening up the pilot jet did not help. Dropping the needle clip to raise the needle and richen initial slide opening seems to have cured that issue. I am going to start a new thread with my results as soon as I get this dialed in.

david3921 08-04-2018 05:47 PM

Dave, do have a link for the one you bought? Some of the ones I'm seeing on Amazon say they are for Keihin. I know that ours are Mikuni based but they all the same on the site.

o2jmpr 08-04-2018 11:18 PM

I just bought a billet one off eBay for under $6.00. It’s the only one on there that says it’s for the pz30 (and I believe vm26).

I’m tired as hell of trying to reach that screw. I’m happy to let you all know how it fits and works once I get it delivered.

DaveinOC 08-06-2018 08:45 AM

Not 100% sure if this is the same one that 02jmpr bought but here is my link:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mikuni-VM26...53.m2749.l2649

o2jmpr 08-06-2018 04:11 PM

Billet Air Fuel Mixture Screw Adjuster For MIKUNI VM26 PZ30 30mm Red Carburetor


Search for that. Sorry no direct link. I bought that one because it specifically said Pz30. As soon as I get a t I’ll let you guys know if it works. Promise. :)

DaveinOC 08-07-2018 09:36 AM

OOPS - I THOUGHT this thing screwed in okay, but today when I was changing pilot jets it was apparent that the threads and shaft are either slightly too small (Maybe 0.5mm?) or this thing is just not the right pitch. Either way the durn thing won't screw all the way in now and pulls out, so I put the stock mixture screw back in. I still haven't figured out how to adjust it without burning my fingers though!

o2jmpr 08-07-2018 10:43 AM

The painfully tedious way I've been adjusting up to now is to cut a small length of hose and jam a screwdriver bit in the end. I hold it between my two index fingers and rotate back and forth like I'm trying to start a fire with a stick. If I try to use one hand to get a grip on it something gets burnt for sure. Using two hands I can get my hands into a tight enough wedge to afford a little breathing room. That said, I usually drop it 5 times to every time I get it in there and I only get a half turn max before I have to reposition.

I do have a 90 degree bit driver from Harbor Freight but it's too short to use the handle and there's not enough room to spin the end by hand. I think Megadan has gotten that method to work for him though.

Digger 08-12-2018 05:56 PM

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This fuel mixture screw came in a pz30 carb kit I bought on ebay. Makes adjustment a bit easier.

o2jmpr 08-24-2018 12:04 PM

This one https://www.ebay.com/itm/282484440706 does NOT fit. It's not even close. The needle is too short, wrong taper and the threads are completely different.

I quit. It's easier to just suffer the burns and hand cramps at this point. :)

o2jmpr 08-24-2018 12:13 PM

I just tried to contact the seller before leaving NFB on Ebay and funny enough, the seller is no longer listed as an Ebay member. Seems like Ebay used to be great a decade or more ago but it's so full of scammers and crap now I don't want to use it. Don't get me wrong, I love my Hawk but finding parts that aren't at CSC is a real bugger.


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