New to me Gio X33
 

I got this bike awhile ago in a deal that also included an '84 Polaris Indy 600 snowmobile. I traded a '95 Chevy S10 Blazer that i had no use for at the time for the pair. (ironically im buying said Blazer back next week go figure...). Anyways i am not quite sure what year this bike is as the year i listed in my sig is just a guess....So that is one thing i would like to know is there any way to determine the year of the bike? Also what upgrades would you guys recommend for it to get the most enjoyment from it? I also own a Yamaha DT250C dual sport and a Honda VF750F Interceptor sport bike. So this is far from the first bike i have owned...just the first china bike lol. From what i understand thus far a few parts from the Honda CRF line up are compatible with this bike.

Only pic i have of it for now..

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...4/DSC_0321.jpg

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HELLO.. there should be a plate on the steering coloum that shows the vin and the year... can you tell me what the serial # is on the motor,, that might help as well..remember to keep your air pressure up on the tires especially the rear tire as if it is under inflated you will tear the tube valve stem off when the rim turns on the tire... go to princess auto and get some pressure reading valve caps they show up to 35 psi . the tires are at 40 psi.. let me know the motor serial # thanks

Welcome! I haven't been to Lloyd in a long time.

Please show us more pics, and we can guide you from there.

Thanks for the info! I managed to locate the vin plate on the steering neck of the frame as well as the build date. It was built in April 2010 indicating it as a 2010 model. I could not locate the engine number however...

Thanks, i will see what i can do about getting more pics of the bike. As you can see in the pic its parked in front of my old truck, but what is not seen is the other old truck in the driveway, that one makes it a bit interesting in trying to figure out how to get the bike out into an area to take pics of it lol.


Note: one of the first threads i read on here was by someone trying to adapt a pitbike headlight to his X33 and it appears that never got resolved, however the one thing that stuck in my mind about that thread was that the OP mentioned that he had 6v output after installing the regulator. Now my thought is this. My Yamaha DT250C has a 6v negative ground system in it with full lighting. I am just wondering if i couldnt replicate that system on my Gio to have full lighting on the Gio. I also know there are some LED headlights out there that will operate on 6 V of voltage so that is another thought worth considering. If i can manage to pull this off there is a pretty good chance i might be able to plate my Gio as a street legal supermoto style bike where i live.

I'm gonna need to see those old trucks!

The engine number is near the shifter. We can decipher that for you.

I suspect that your stator puts out 12v, and the wiring for the headlight is likely already in place. It will be a matter of probing until you find it. There are probably some unused connectors in the area where the headlight would be. Do you have a headlight switch?

Thanks for the info as to where the number should be, when i get a chance i will take another look for it. There is no headlight switch on the bike currently but that wouldnt surprise me if there are hidden unused connectors hidden behind the number plate.

This is the old truck thats in the pic with the Gio

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...n/DSC_0064.jpg

It is a 1949 Dodge B1-D 1 ton..the other truck isnt mine but it is an early 70s Dodge W100 Powerwagon club cab short box.

Ok, managed to locate the numbers, it seems i found them in two different places actually...one near the shifter as Weld suggested and on a UPC barcode type sticker on top of the engine casing. With that said here they are..

ZS1P56YMJ
8A40054

I also managed to get a couple more pics of the bike while working on the old Dodge today

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...4/DSC_0323.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...4/DSC_0324.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...4/DSC_0325.jpg

This pic shows all 3 bikes together along with the Dodge and my roomates daughters Vw bug.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c2...4/DSC_0326.jpg

ZS - Zongshen
1 - one cylinder
P - horizontal cylinder
56 - cylinder bore
Y - oil cooled
M - motorcycle
J - 150cc

I can't tell from the pics; does it actually have an oil cooler? It is not actually 150cc, but closer to 140. There might be a stamp on the right side of the cylinder that denotes displacement. A 140 in a little bike like that would be a rocket.

I have no idea what the barcode means.

Sweet old Dodge! What are your plans with it? Are you going to keep it as a duallie, or change the attitude? I'm loving that split windshield. It looks like it has MB plates; are you going to have to do an out of Province inspection?

Your DT reminds me of an old MX175 I had for awhile. Fun bike.

Is that a Kerker pipe on the Interceptor?

It does have an oil cooler hidden between the wings of the fuel tank, and i will check the cylinder when i get some free time.

Working on 12 volt conversion currently and yes its staying a dually that was one of the biggest reasons i bought it, I plan on building a wood flat bed for it to make it into a motorcycle hauler. And no it does not require inspection due to age it is already currently plated as a Sask truck, the MB plate is from years ago.

The DT is a blast to ride on the street

and yes Kerker K series cans on the Interceptor.

That sounds like a perfect bike hauler.

Are you using a GM 10SI for the 12v conversion? What motor is in it?

Most likely using a GM 3 wire alt (10SI or 12SI) and it has a 228 Flat head I6

Please feel free to start a thread on your truck project. Many of us would enjoy that. :tup:

I will do just that, This old Dodge is one of a few project vehicles i have in my fleet. I just recently bought back another old project which is a '95 Chevy S10 Blazer. Ironically enough i am going to be picking up some items for the Dodge today.

Ok i played around with the carb on this thing and got it running a bit better but it still needs the choke to keep idling...Now it was suggested to me to adjust the needle by a couple notches...Im assuming this is refering to the needle in the slide of the carb correct?

Did you pull the carb and clean it?

The slide needle position affects mid range fueling. If your problem is solely just idling... needing choke (more fuel) to stay idling... you need to check/clean the pilot jet in the carb. The pilot jet has such a tiny hole in it for fueling at idle... that it clogs easily from any rust or debris in the fuel... or clogs when gas varnishes (goes stale).

Cheers!

Agreed. It could also be that the pilot mixture screw needs to be tweaked a bit.

Darkrider, yes, the clip is within the slide on the jet needle. As RC says, it's for midrange.

about all i have done to the carb so far is adjust the jet that is sticking out the side of it and almost had it idling that way without the choke. The carb had been cleaned by the previous owner of the bike and the bike was put away soon after so it has been ran maybe 4 or 5 times since the carb was cleaned.

Would the pilot mixture screw be the one sticking out the side of the carb on the right side? That was the one i was playing with and as said had it pretty close to idling without choke.

The screw out the right side with a spring on it is the idle speed screw. You set the idle with this screw. The fuel air mixture screw is on the bottom of the carb... facing down. Both main and pilot jets are inside the carb float bowl. Have to remove the bowl to get to them. Shut off fuel and drain the bowl with the drain screw first.

Cheers!

The location of that screw is enough to make you say bad words.

Damn it...looks like partial teardown time...joy...well at least it will give me an idea of what i will be dealing with on my Yamaha since its carb needs to come off as well to be cleaned up...

and i suppose i cant set it to get it into the ballpark where it needs to be while i have the carb out for cleaning eh?

After you have the carb on the bench... find the mixture screw. Carefully thread the screw IN (clockwise) until gently tight... while counting the # of turns. Write down this # (i.e. 1-1/2 turns, etc.). You will want to remove this screw for carb cleaning.

Now after carb clean/rebuild... when you put the mixture screw back in... thread all the way in to gently tight... and back it out the # of turns you wrote down... to put it where it was originally. If you need more fuel... turn out another 1/4 turn. Less fuel... turn in 1/4. You get the idea.

Cheers!

Ok i had a chance to tinker on the bike earlier this week and if the mixture screw is the one i think it is...i can see why people curse about its location! Would it be the one thats kinda tucked into a notch at the front of the carb bowl and you pretty much have to take the plug wire off and try not to make contact with the header to get at it with the carb on bike?

That's the one. You could try one of these: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Air-Fuel-Mix...83fe7b&vxp=mtr

Hmm may need to put that on my watch list...even though the bike doesnt have a Mikuni carb on it...

My bad. I forgot that your bike has the horizontal motor.

No worries, I do eventually want to get one of its larger brothers. I had originally got this bike with the intention of using it to teach the Fiancee to ride then we learned it was easier for her to fit on my old Yamaha DT250 dual sport...So i am probably going to be searching for another DT250 or a DT175 for her to learn on and that will more then likely become her main bike once she learns...Her learning on the DT will be easier to teach her because i already have my 250 that she can probably ride for a bit too.

So with that said i guess im going to be setting this lil X33 up for myself...Suspension height wise it seems to be about right though i would like to adjust the rear shock so the spring is a little more firm in the rear. More then likely will end up draining the front forks and filling them with heavier weight fork oil along with some PVC plastic pipe spacers to increase preload on the front springs. I was able to adjust the air/fuel mix jet with the aid of a pair of needle nose vice grips but i still need to set it up a bit better...so i will probably wait till i can pull the carb and note where i have it set now.

Other then that i will probably end up doing the following:

Bicycle speedometer
rechargeable LED lights (seen some awhile ago that are self contained and are bright as hell while holding a charge for about 2 hours of use)

Might research retrofitting some sort of charging system onto the bike to run a gel cell battery and possibly an LED light like a Rigid dually 3x3 cube light as a permanent headlight.

If i can sort out the charging system idea there is a slim chance i might be able to register the bike as a street legal super moto type bike. If i manage that one...well there is a damn good chance i may go looking for spare rear hub to lace up a 17" rim to...

You could solve the charging issues by Frankensteining a CG200 motor in there. That would be fun!

I am jumping in on this late so sorry if it was already covered. Your bike has to have a stator and a cdi putting out power to your coil for engine spark. With a multimeter how many volts is your stator putting out? I would think all you need is a regulator if you don't already have one, a battery and a headlight. You can even skip the battery and run the headlight straight off the regulator like the old time bikes but your headlight will go dim when the engine slows down. You might be able to keep the headlight bright by using an led lamp instead of incandescent. I wouldn't install a headlight switch, just wire it straight in so it is always on if the bike is running. Keep it simple as possible.

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Stator-Gener...item20e4db613f


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rectifier-AC...3D141278535999


http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from...light&_sacat=0


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This looks like a pretty good thread that should get you going. But to be honest this should be extremely simple. You need to jump the output power wire from your stator to a regulator/rectifier and then the output power wire from the regulator/rectifier to an led headlamp. Ground the headlamp to the frame. That should be it unless I am missing something confusingly simple.


http://atvconnection.com/forums/1-en...ing-setup.html


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This thread is about doing a headlight install on this model of GIO...Ironically enough it was this thread that led me to this site in the first place..If im understanding things correctly from reading that..There is a chance that i could use a headlight from an older model motorcycle that uses a 6 volt headlight like my Yamaha DT250.

http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=8045

Are you 100% positive your system is 6v and not 12v?


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Im only going by what the guy in the linked thread found on the exact same model of bike. After installing the pit bike headlight kit he found it was only putting out 6V.

I read it as his was putting out low voltage because it was failing and he needed a new one.

If you have a 5 or 6 wire stator you should be good to go. You just need to get a regulator and I would go with an led light.

http://www.pitbikeclub.co.uk/showthread.php?t=19804


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To Quote the op of that thread:


I will def need to take a look at my bike to ensure that mine is the same which it should be considering it is the same model...but who knows if that changed from year to year on these bikes. But lets just say for the moment that if it is the same...according to the OP of that thread i should be seeing around 25 Volts AC directly off of those yellow wires...Which now makes me consider the fact that the Rectifierr he used may have been far too restrictive since it goes down to around 6-7 volts with the Rectifier installed...

Ironically enough the same link you posted was posted in that thread as well...I may just reread it a couple times so i understand it properly and go from there.

Hmmm ok! I found this link which kind of explains the same basic process as the one you posted Adjuster but for some reason i found it far easier to understand....Basically it uses a 100 W H3 light wired straight off of one of the yellow wires...Not both..just one of them...Which makes sense...i may give this method a try to see where i get with it...it also looks like he eventually also fitted a rectifier to actualy build a charging system using a small battery...hmmm may be able to make something like an SLA battery for an emergency back up light work for that....Now i wont be able to have turn signals or anything..might be able to make some sort of stop/tail light work especially after the Rectifier is in place....


http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/100...t-on-pit-bike/



Edit: Found this link that makes it quite easy to understand how to have an actual battery in the system to charge up to run lights....now that i understand this part i think i now understand how to add a brake light to the bike...brake light switches are basic..they have power going to one side and output on the other side...the power imput can be pulled directly from the battery....and im sure i can wire the tail light part of things to the headlight switch so when i flick the switch it turns on the headlight and tail light at the same time....at least in theory...

http://www.miniriders.com/electrical...150-160-a.html

I will get this sorted out yet! I may not be able to ride it on the street but this will at least allow me to keep on riding at night!

Well it looks like this project will be coming to an end soon. I was presented with an interesting trade offer yesterday and after some discussion with my Fiancee who i had gotten this bike for in the first place i will be taking the trade. Ironically enough part of the trade includes another china machine. But i was offered the following for this bike:

a Baja Motorsports Wilderness Trail 250 atv(the aforementioned china machine), Not sure what year it is yet
and a Polaris Magnum 425cc 4x4 atv

I'm looking forward to pics of your new machines.

I will def try to get some when i go out to my buddys place later today to pay the remaining balance on the truck im buying from him. I will see if i can find the Vin numbers on both as well to figure out what year they are.