Venom Lifan KPM200 ~ KP Master 200
 

came with mag wheels.:thanks:
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Awesome! No tubes or spokes to worry about. :yay:

Bike looks good so far wish I had infinite money I would get one of these to.

will be awaiting a report on how it does!

nice!

looks like i got the #000001 on the vin. if this is the first batch, then i got the first one!
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Collectors item ???? 😆

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Sure is pretty. :D

of course i did remove that fender! any ideas on plate mount?
 

simple under the fender where there are already bolts ready?
or
get one of those ducati fenders they do now?
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dare i say ...bad ass! i am really liking that bike! Congrats

thanks
this initial un-crate and assemble quality is something bad a$% for me in the chonda world.
i have opened a few in my day and this one speaks high volume. i love the bike already.
by pushing it around and taking pics its a lot heavier than expected,
but in good way. feels like pushing a mid 70's cb350 around.
good solid bike here! first start up will prolly be this weekend and first ride will most likely be monday

Really digging the color looks like they did a good job on the paint. Really like we're they put the tack at.

yes the blue paint is sweet! nice clear coat over decals too. the plastics are nice quality

i read somewhere they said decorative.
they are good quality to support it. i havent dug in there enuff to know yet.
but i will soon.

Wow!! You might be the FIRST one in the US with one of these!! (customers)

Removing the fender really cleans it up. :tup:

That is a really good looking bike. I like how Lifan pushes to make original bike designs and doesn't make clones.

Will be interesting to see them grow. Could really challenge the entry bike market in the U.S. if they start getting a dealership network, better website, more marketing, etc. all set up.

The biggest issue I think they'll see (we're assuming quality is not an issue) is replacement parts. I mentioned this in the Small Engine Velocity discord channel years ago, but without a way to get replacement parts, it's going to be difficult for them to compete in the U.S.

I think someone from the discord channel talked to them because they shortly opened up an Amazon store. I think that helps a LOT. Next would be the availability of getting the bikes out to people and the marketing.

Reason I bring this up...

That KPM 200 is a GOOD looking bike. I think they're going to do well. Not much in this category if you're looking for scrambler and 300cc or less.

Only bikes you can call out is the Honda CB300R, CSC SG250, SSR Buccaneer. I may be missing one or 2, but this could dominate the market. Especially for people that want something like a Ducati Scrambler, but without the HUGE price tag and engine size.

Keep us updated! Interesting to see what can be done with these bikes.

here is a good start for parts.
 

example. the crashbar/bumper bars. are actually $75 to ship, not the $8 in the ad. keep in mind it will take a month to get it, but good stuff here.
i ordered the crash bars already at about $150 delivered and a wait.
i am debating on the axle mounted fender/plate mount too....undecided
https://www.yoycart.com/Search?Searc...atId=0&catId=0

pics so far on the google cloud
 

specs in the manual
 

This bike seems to have gathered the best of old school and new school at a very affordable price.

love the look, but please replace that exhaust! :tup:

a little pricey for our china bike taste but it will fit. :hehe:https://www.amazon.com/Exhaust-Muffl...s%2C166&sr=8-1

i agree, but will have to be later on. capped out in the pocket book.
i dont know squat about fuel injection, so i am a bit cautious about changing exhaust and not mess up the computer efi. if engineered properly it should self adjust but no one has actually done it yet on this generation 2 motor. wish they have so i would know 100% no issues

The ECU will adjust to the changes in the exhaust. :tup:

automatically or is there a boot sequence restart ecu thingy?
i am extremely cautious here on changing any intake or exhaust on fi, but i will ride it stock for a while.
and this second gen motor have some sort of turbocharging on it?

The ECU will maintain the proper Air/Fuel ratio. So if the engine can flow more air the ECU will supply more fuel. The only time you would need to program the ECU is if you want to richen up the fuel mixture above what the ECU is programed for or if you wanted to adjust and increase the timing. Now if you add something like a turbo then you would definitely would have to reprogram the ECU. FI doesn't like a lot of timing and would also have to increase the fuel injector size which would need to be reprogramed for. There are performance chips that can increase fuel mixture. ;) https://www.magnumtuning.com/en/subc.../bike-upgrades

some sort of turbocharging?i read this
 

"Another advantage about KPM-200 is the 200cc NBF GENERATION II Engine, which adopts turbocharging, crankshaft displacement, roller valve rocker arm, piston spray and other core technologies. It exerts high compression ratio of 11:1, with the max power up to 12.5kw and max torque 17n.m."

:hmm: I'm not sure what they are talking about but there definitely no turbocharger on your bike. But sounds real impressive. lol

turbocharging vs turbocharger maybe?:lmao:
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i was comparing this to the cb200 specs. pretty similar comparison.
you know each being 17hp and top speed 77mph.... duel carb vs efi...
as you can see, i am gettin a lot of work done today.:wtf:
https://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/mo...onda_cb200.htm

Sure would be sweet if it did have a turbocharger though. :tup:


HAHA! That CB200 was my first bike I owned. Same color too (Green). :D

Based on the pictures from this site, the rear sprocket is plate/bowl shaped. This will make sprocket changes hard if not impossible. What is the tooth count for the front and rear?

Awesome looking bike, by the way. What was the delivered price?

that's pretty sweet lookin!