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2LZ 06-21-2016 10:11 AM

Congrats to rjmorel on the Ironbutt!
 
Great job, Rob! Thanks for representing the RX3 and China Riders!

http://californiascooterco.com/blog/

FastDoc 06-21-2016 11:46 AM

Very impressive.

I've pulled 700 miles on a Gold Wing (Yellowstone to home) in one straight run and I'll tell you even on the most comfortable motorcycle made that's a haul. Your experience is a testimony to the RX3, and your arse ;-)

detours 06-21-2016 11:50 AM

Way to go, Rob! You probably didn't have time to take many pics, but please post them with your route and tell us more about your trip!

Juanro 06-21-2016 12:31 PM

Congratulations and very impressive.
I've done a maximum of 800km (about 500 mi) on my RX3, and it was a long day indeed (it was not non-stop, but more like taking the scenic route)
My absolute maximum was 1500km, still no thousand miles, on a Honda Pacific Coast, but I was a lot younger!

BlackBike 06-21-2016 12:41 PM

Yea,yea,yea, more,more,more !

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

BlackBike 06-21-2016 01:16 PM

Rj...That's high praise from the clan leader Joe! :tup:

dave92029 06-21-2016 01:41 PM

Congratulations!
 
Welcome to the dark side.

I was surprised by your average mpg. I don't believe that I have ever averaged less than 55 mpg on any tank of gas, and my RX3 burns California 87 octane fuel.

IBA # 44

3banger 06-21-2016 02:38 PM

Well done indeed! Biggest day I've got in the RX3 saddle was my zig zagy 700 miles on my way to PHX. This was day one for me of the 2nd annual Baja ride. I found the little Zong to be all day comfortable with the tall saddle and sheep skin. I also get 45 to 50mpg flogging the little motor on the interstate, on the back roads at 60 to 65 mph it gets much closer to the 70mpg mark. Managed 4000 miles in 10 days on the Baja trip.

BlackBike 06-21-2016 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 3banger (Post 222011)
Well done indeed! Biggest day I've got in the RX3 saddle was my zig zagy 700 miles on my way to PHX. This was day one for me of the 2nd annual Baja ride. I found the little Zong to be all day comfortable with the tall saddle and sheep skin. I also get 45 to 50mpg flogging the little motor on the interstate, on the back roads at 60 to 65 mph it gets much closer to the 70mpg mark. Managed 4000 miles in 10 days on the Baja trip.

3b..epic indeed. You guys are hardcore. Don't know it I could handle it. I aim to try some day.

Louis Angel 06-21-2016 06:55 PM

WOW. And when I go on 200 mile rides I feel like I have done something great. :-/
Congrats to Rob !!! :tup:

pyoungbl 06-21-2016 08:40 PM

I have done a SS1000 three times but never on a Zong. This is a significant accomplishment! My congratulations. Dualsport Chic just did one on a 650 Beemer (thumper?) and that's a big deal too. We have some tough dudes/dudettes in this group.

rtking 06-21-2016 09:06 PM

Well done, Rob! Wow... I don't think I could do 1,000 miles on anything and still be able to stand, let alone walk, after that ordeal!

And as Paul stated, congrats to Vic for 1000 mile accomplishment as well!

This is truly and test and testament to the fortitude and endurance of Rob and Vic, and their trusty steeds!

Azhule 06-21-2016 09:14 PM

I kind of want to try the 1,000 mile ride on both our little Bashan 200 and the Kawasaki 650... it should be doable, only have to maintain an avg. speed of 55 mph for 18 hours :lmao:

Dualsport Chic 06-21-2016 09:22 PM

Congrats on you IBA SS1000 with your RX3 - That is AWESOME! When you get your plate cover, it will be met by many with much respect for doing it on a small displacement machine.

I just did my first IBA SS1000 last Saturday on my BMW F650gs. Not sure I'd do another one as it destroyed me for the next few days. Still recovering. Rex is getting his tags this week finally so I'll have some pics and maybe that long awaited review I was supposed to write.

Best,

V

BlackBike 06-21-2016 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Azhule (Post 222066)
I kind of want to try the 1,000 mile ride on both our little Bashan 200 and the Kawasaki 650... it should be doable, only have to maintain an avg. speed of 55 mph for 18 hours :lmao:

200cc put a barb in the bottom of a 2.5 gal plastic tank on rear rack and run fuel line to a "T" in the fuel line to swap off to auxiliary tank when main is dry. No great ideas about fixing the arse issue. :hehe:

Good luck keeping that 55mph average:hehe:

I drove 16 hrs in a 1980 accord in my 20 somethings. Had so much coffee in me I couldn't sleep when I got to my destination. Remember, It felt like I was vibrating , was awful. Hard to imagine doing 20 hrs or so on mc.

rjmorel 06-22-2016 02:25 AM

You should come with us , they said, It will be fun, they said.....................

Thank you everyone for the arse condolences and the congrates on this little venture. And congratulations to DSchic for your accomplishing an IB. I do feel your pain. Does this make us fox hole buddies?
At 59 years old I think the warrantee has expired on this body of mine. The worse pain I have is in my neck and shoulder area. Felt like ice picks going into my neck and back from the degenerative disks I have. I took a couple of ibuprofen every couple of hours to keep the pain down. But like DSchic said it's not the ride that hurts so much as the next few days after your body tells you "What where you thinking"
I wanted to do this IB for 2 reasons 1) to see if the RX3 could do it and 2) to see if I could do it. I have a Honda NC700x that would of done it just fine. but where's the challenge in that?
We left Walla Walla, Wa at 4 AM in the dark with 6 other guys and 1 girl all riding Harley, Victories, Indian and I think a Yamaha. You can see a pic of us here
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rider...48653721944905

I told them I understood that I wouldn't be able to keep up with them once we got to Oregon and Idaho where the speeds were 75 and 80 on I84 and we all just needed to ride our own ride to survive this. We chose this weekend because it has the longest daylight of the summer and wanted to take advantage of that.
Within an hour we were headed up Cabbage Hill and low 30 deg temps. My fingers were so cold I couldn't operate the switches cause of numbness. I had the heated grips and jacket liner on for hours on end and I was so thankful CSC had given us 300 watt alternators which never failed to deliver enough juice. At first fuel stop I bought a pair of thinsulate gloves and they kept my hands warm but were thick and caused my hands to tire easily cause they just weren't ment for cycle riding. The heated grips kept the inside of my hands warm but the cold air going over the back of hands froze them.
We came down into La Grand were the temps were rising and the sun was coming up. Overall perfect weather for the ride other then the 30 deg temps early on.
From then on it was a game of cat and mouse riding where the group would disappear down the highway and pull over for gas break , then I would catch up with them , we would take off , they would disappear till next gas stop.
I'll post this now and keep writing short posts till we get back home to Walla Walla.

Weldangrind 06-22-2016 02:26 AM

Way to go, Rob!

BlackBike 06-22-2016 02:42 AM

Good grief rob, you did a good part of this alone, one stubborn son...

If we need someone to go get help, your it.

rjmorel 06-22-2016 03:00 AM

Our route took us through Baker City, Boise, to American Falls ,Pocatello with our turn around destination of Idaho Falls about 530 miles from Walla Walla. I lost track of the others and when I got to Idaho Falls to gas up for the return trip home. I figured they had been here already and were on their way back. Since time wise I was ahead of schedule I thought I'd take a little nap before starting the second half of journey home. I didn't take many pics. Joe has them on the CSC blog you can see them here
http://californiascooterco.com/blog/
While I was trying to get some shut eye ,I heard the familiar rumble of big bikes coming down the off ramp and I was surprised it was my group. They had stopped for 45min lunch break and I had passed them up with out knowing it. I jumped up and was waving and grinning at them very thankful to see them all together ,safe and sound. They had wondered if I had given up and turned back home hours ago. That was one highlight of the trip. Getting there first w/o knowing it. Not that this was a race, just surprised us all the slowest bike got to the half way point ahead of the others. They told me where they planned to stop for fuel on the way back so I made a mental note of it and off we went.
You know how they say a horse knows when it's time to go home you just let them go and they'll find their way? That's kinda like what the group did. The closer they got to home the less messing around and stopping they did. Or so I was told. I saw them at several gas stops and pretty much was by myself after the sun went down. They were beating it for home. That was the least fun part going alone in the dark at 65-70mph for 4-5 hours, keeping an eye out for deer, trying to stay awake.
I kept hearing Donkey on my front fender singing "I feel so all alone, There's no one here beside me............"

BlackBike 06-22-2016 03:16 AM

Yep, on the other hand, there was no way but home at the half way piont. You knew you had it at that point, (couldn't quit) all roads lead to home, just had to keep up the pace.

That was a real turtle and the hare story at the mid point. :lol:


That nite ride, oh my God I bet it was tempting to click that blinker and hit that exit and head for that nice Hampton inn.:zzz:

rjmorel 06-22-2016 03:18 AM

So the return trip was uneventful and a lot warmer when coming over the Cabbage Hill area. Riding at night is a different world. I didn't seem to get tired and just focused on not hitting anything and staying on the highway. I can't tell you how much of a relief it was when coming down the last hill and seeing the lights of Walla Walla of in the distance some 19 hours after starting that morning. My thoughts were " you've made it this far , don't crash or hit a deer or get run over by a semi".
I had wondered if anyone would be at the last stop, our starting point where we fuel up for the last time to get the "official" end time printed receipt from the gas pump at around 12:30 am. I had visions of the whole town turning out ,throwing down flowers before me and waving flags as I made my way through town to the Cenex station we started from.
To my surprise the whole group was still there filling out their paper work , having witness sign their forms. They had arrived about 15 min head of me and gave a clapping ovation when I pulled in.
The rest of the town never showed. Vermin.

BlackBike 06-22-2016 03:54 AM

https://goo.gl/maps/SRhvN7yo92m

rjmorel 06-22-2016 04:09 AM

So you want to do an iron Butt do you...................
Heres some summation on the experience.
Go to the iron butt website and read all you can.
http://ironbutt.com/about/default.cf...TOKEN=59834847

It tells you all the witness forms and receipts you'll need to be certified that you actually did it.
It will tell you what is best to eat and not to eat so you don't get groggy. That's important.
Above all they want it to be a fun, safe event for any who participate. So if you excessively speed ,they will see it when they review your paperwork and if the times you took getting between cities are in excess of speed limits. They will not certify your ride. It can all be done at the posted speed limits as long as you don't spend hours in the coffee shop or dinking around sight seeing. We were just under 20 hours I believe.
It's a lot better to have partners to ride with the whole trip. I was solo for 80-90% of the time.
It's good to have a home team you can text too to let them know your on the move and OK.
My bike/ride was equipped with heated grips, heated jacket liner, 14x46 sprockets, Stock sprockets would of been fine , hand guards, 20-50 CSC premium syn oil, CSC accessary gel seat. Shinko 244 tires, water bottle, trail mix, granola bars, tire repair kit, tool kit.
Hi-Viz helmet and jacket cause it's better to see me coming from a ways off, then to smell me coming up close I always say.
GPS an important accurate witness to the miles you've traveled. We all know that the speedo and odometer are optimistic on the RX3. The last thing you want is to think you've gone 1000 miles by your odometer only to find yourself disqualified because you only really went 968 miles. Write the total miles on your bike at start incase the trip meter gets reset by mistake and you loose how many miles you've gone.
In 1055 miles I had no break downs, close calls with deer or cars, Every one I met was courteous at the gas/break stops.
I rode wide open throttle for hours on end to maintain the 65-70 mph getting up and down hills. The RX3 motor, cooling, charging ,FI all seemed to work flawlessly.
Mid grade fuel gained me 2-3 mph and more oomph going up hills.
Took 23.11 gallons of gas costing $57.90 for 1055 miles equals 45.65 MPG!!!!!
Would I do it again? Yes but on a bigger bike. The Rx3 proved that it could do it and that's what I wanted to accomplish this trip. I'm confident it could go across the US, coast to coast.
So there you have it . Going to bed now.
Any questions I'll be glad to answer as best I can.
It was kinda fun, kinda scarry at night , kinda uber cool coming in finishing and seeing the group all there safe and sound.
rj

rjmorel 06-22-2016 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBike (Post 222109)

yuppers that was our route, thanks BB, rj

AZRider 06-22-2016 05:07 AM

Way to go Rob, you certainly are the trooper. You were lucky to have donkey pointing the way and keeping you safe from the cagers. It proves to me that deer whistles are useless and donkeys are the best deer deterrent. :clap:

dpl096 06-22-2016 08:24 AM

great write up RJ and a fantastic adventure - thanx for sharing some of it :tup:

BlackBike 06-22-2016 11:22 AM

So now that the iron but is done on a 250cc sub $4000 motorcycle, remember what they were saying on the eve of their sales in North america.

December 2014 ,some were worried...

Good concept, the dealership experience is going to be pretty lacking, though. Get ready to do most (if not all) the maintenance yourself if you want one. Never mind the issue of parts availability unless they set up a factory-direct system of some sort.
This is the biggest problem of buying a vehicle from the LingKingWangKingDongKing Motor Company.
(And yes, I know, Oh but real riders do all their own mainetenance. The fact of the matter is that most riders don't. So the business model, I'm afraid, is quite unsatisfactory.)


This was generally a kind assessment .

rjmorel 06-22-2016 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZRider (Post 222114)
Way to go Rob, you certainly are the trooper. You were lucky to have donkey pointing the way and keeping you safe from the cagers. It proves to me that deer whistles are useless and donkeys are the best deer deterrent. :clap:

I'm thinking it was his smell :lmao:. Ever follow behind a cattle truck going down the highway? Same thing, :) rj

Dualsport Chic 06-22-2016 12:38 PM

Good on ya Rob! Those last 5 hours after the sun went down were utter hell for me - the cramp in my throttle hand, the ache in both knees and the degraded vision due to eye strain with wind and sun really made the last leg of the journey treacherous.

Many have asked me if I'd do another or go for the Bun Burner Gold (1500 miles in 24 hours). Never say never but I'm pretty sure I'm 'One and Done' for the IBA. Glad we both were able to have safe and successful IBA challenges!

rjmorel 06-22-2016 12:52 PM

I tell them they should be glad we didn't do the 50cc iron butt. "What?? they say "do it on a 50cc motorbike?" Sounds harmless doesn't it? Nope , its a 50 hour........coast to coast....... iron butt ride, That's hard core. Maybe when I was a youngen, rj

ps DSchic, cramped throttle hand. I used a throttle lock cruise control thingy from Atlas throttle lock which saved my hand. Anything that allows you to keep throttle on when you take your hand off to flex muscles or scratch your nose is a great help.
http://www.atlasthrottlelock.com/

Azhule 06-22-2016 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjmorel (Post 222147)
I tell them they should be glad we didn't do the 50cc iron butt. "What?? they say "do it on a 50cc motorbike?" Sounds harmless doesn't it? Nope , its a 50 hour........coast to coast....... iron butt ride, That's hard core. Maybe when I was a youngen, rj

ps DSchic, cramped throttle hand. I used a throttle lock cruise control thingy from Atlas throttle lock which saved my hand. Anything that allows you to keep throttle on when you take your hand off to flex muscles or scratch your nose is a great help.
http://www.atlasthrottlelock.com/

Thanks RJ, just what I needed... another $135 add on for the Mrs. $1,000 china bike :hehe:

** I've been looking for a nice "Throttle Lock" and that is the best one I have seen! ** :tup:

Dualsport Chic 06-22-2016 03:46 PM

Would have been money well spent to have that throttle lock for sure . . . hand is still aching!

Tiger12XC 06-22-2016 04:05 PM

Congrats RJ great to see you made it back safe those Iron Butt challenges are brutal. I drove from Las Vegas to Louisiana 1476 miles in 26.5 hours and it took a week to recover from that trip. Couldn't imagine doing it on a motorcycle.

BlackBike 06-22-2016 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dualsport Chic (Post 222159)
Would have been money well spent to have that throttle lock for sure . . . hand is still aching!

Ice ice baby. Just smacked my top left hand on a fire hydrant , hematoma time.

Azhule 06-22-2016 04:25 PM

Have you looked into or tried Arnica Montana Gel yet? Arnica is a great herb/plant (if you don't have allergies to it of course :p)

I've been using Natrabio brand Arnica for a while

rjmorel 06-22-2016 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dualsport Chic (Post 222159)
Would have been money well spent to have that throttle lock for sure . . . hand is still aching!

DSchic, were you with a group or soloing it? I just couldn't keep up with the bigger bikes an ended up solo most of the time. That was the only negative I had but it was kinda self-inflicted, :cry: rj

Dualsport Chic 06-23-2016 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rjmorel (Post 222210)
DSchic, were you with a group or soloing it? I just couldn't keep up with the bigger bikes an ended up solo most of the time. That was the only negative I had but it was kinda self-inflicted, :cry: rj

I had a friend follow me in her car from the start to about the 100 mile mark, then met up with a fellow female rider at gas stop #2 who has multiple IBA certs. She rode with me to within 100 miles of the finish. She was my coach and trainer for the day and I am eternally grateful to her for 'paying it forward' to another budding IBA member.

:thanks: Minna Case - YOU ROCK!

BlackBike 06-23-2016 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dualsport Chic (Post 222286)
I had a friend follow me in her car from the start to about the 100 mile mark, then met up with a fellow female rider at gas stop #2 who has multiple IBA certs. She rode with me to within 100 miles of the finish. She was my coach and trainer for the day and I am eternally grateful to her for 'paying it forward' to another budding IBA member.

:thanks: Minna Case - YOU ROCK!

Wow, great support from great friends

BlackBike 06-23-2016 09:55 PM

One last thing... Lazy Butt 1000
 
BlackBike completed the Lazy Butt 1000. This is my 1000th post. Fingers a little sore and ran the battery down several times on my tablet and went over my 5 gb limit several months in a row but all and all, I had fun :lmao:

Thanks for your support :hi:

rjmorel 06-24-2016 12:56 AM

Wow BlackBike You've gone twice as far as I have.:tup: Congratulations on your Lazy Butt 1000, :clap: Hope the fingers pull through. Be careful about going over your limit , they will disqualify you for that. Your an inspiration to us all. Did you solo it or have other typers go along with you? Did you use a lazy boy seat or a kitchen table kind? :tup: rj


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