Difference Between Apollo 250cc Dirt Bikes?
 

Hi, having a hard time getting my head around these specifications. Is the Apollo DB-G011 different than the RX250 and DB36?

http://www.powersportsmax.com/produc...ducts_id/20549

It states this has adjustable quickly adjustable rear suspension and this seems to be what everyone has been asking for. It also looks to be 21lbs lighter and 2 more horsepower.

Here is what I'm comparing it to:

https://www.motomaxus.com/250cc-adult-dirt-bike-en.html

Just wondering if this is more people over stating something and looking for the biggest bang for the buck...

Thanks,

Rich

Same bikes. The rear shock only has spring adjustment. It has an air valve at the top. I have let it all out and filled it up. No difference.
This is still a great bike. Change the carb and it is an awesome bike.

Different btw 2 model (at least in pic) OHC vs OHV

^That.

Bike in the first link has a CB250 - the OHC engine. Second bike has the CG250, the OHV motor found in many of the Enduros like the Hawk, Bashans, etc.

The OHC motor makes a little more hp. The OHV motor will have a bit more torque in the lower half of the revs.

Likely there is no differences beyond that. Just marketing people hyping up the bike to make you want to buy it.

I wouldn't even believe the weights they list. Most weights listed by these sellers tends to be optimistic (aka inaccurate).

Thanks guys!!! :)

Apollo will slap in whatever engine a local importer desires, obviously after emissions certifications are completed. If these really do have different engines, it was probably more to do with what was available at the time, and the US importer fudged them through. Otherwise, it could just be the stock photos (a lot of online retailers do not take their own photos since they drop ship and don't physically carry many of the bikes on their site) from Apollo show both available air-cooled engines. I would venture to say the bike is the same, since as I mentioned, most retailers drop-ship.

I just noticed--Powersportsmax is not free shipping at their price, while motomaxus is free shipping. There IS a difference, lol

The stated HP between the two is different as well, and in line with the two different engine types. The OHC equipped bike is rated at a bit over 17hp, which is typical of that engine, and the OHV equipped bike at 15.6hp, which seems to be the gold standard for EPA compliant non-balanced CG250's

Well, went to order and apparently the tariffs are in place. There is an additional $150 fee...

Probably a processing/paperwork fee of some kind. You wouldn't pay a Tariff as an aditional fee, the bike itself would just be more expensive.

No, it said tarrif 301 fee...

I looked it up and it was imposed a few days ago on Chinese goods.

i am interested as to how you saw a tariff fee?
not doubting you, i just want see facts

Order one from the 2nd link of the OP, you don’t have to finish the transaction.

Got it wrong, it’s 15%...

Sounds like shady business practices to me. A tariff on imported goods means that the importer pays a higher price, and then that just gets passed along to the consumer with a higher MSRP. Tacking an extra "fee" on to something that has already been imported and passed customs - meaning it has already been taxed - is a B.S. way to squeeze more money out of people.

here is a screen shot of the tariff in checkout process
https://imgur.com/a/DPO9KA5

damn, i wonder which seller is next or they just milking it.....
their supply should already be here before the "tariff" went into effect....

Rich, they are the same bike. Some of the vendors have incorrect photos, as they make these bikes out of country, and will offer more options.

The bike you will get from ether dealer is as pictured in powersports max, with the possible exception of the frame color on the red, green, blue bikes. I have seen some of the colored bikes with the black frame not red. When I was looking at buying mine I was getting frustrated by all the different stock photos that each dealer seem to have.

Call Jason at OrionPowersports. Ask some questions. I have bought two bikes from him in the past few months. He works directly with Apollo, has good parts inventory, and has an actual store.

My buddy bought his Apollo 250 from motomaxus (prior to teriffs), and had a good experience. I tried to buy from them, but the shipping charge to California would have made the bike more expensive than buying it from powersportsmax including tax & registration.

I have purchased my Apollo 250rx from powersportsmax, but only because I was not familiar with the registration process in California. If I could do it again, I would buy the bike from Jason.

https://www.orionpowersports.com/apo...embled-tested/

The only thing you may want to replace is the Carb, and maybe the sprockets/chain. I left my front sprocket alone, and changed out the rear sprocket to a 52t. I think a 48T would fit a little better. If you change the sprocket you will need to get a new chain. I have the dimensions of the sprocket, and a vendor that can make the rear sprocket if needed. The sprocket will cost about 85 bucks shipped.

The engines that come in the Apollo 250 will be the same no matter which dealer you buy from. They are registered with the EPA, and California ARB with a specific engine/engine family.

Consider is this, If these bike are more expensive for the dealer to buy they are going to do a couple things. They will charge more for the bike, or have a separate charge for the tariff/shipping. One way or another we as the consumer are going to pay this. I have seen few websites showing bike prices going up a lot. There are a few dealers that have not made the adjustment, but I would think by the end of the year most of the prices would reflect the new teriff charges.

I bought a coolster 125 ATV in February for 912.00, and now the same dealer is selling it for 1249.00

"There are a few dealers that have not made the adjustment, but I would think by the end of the year most of the prices would reflect the new teriff charges."

i cant seem to get the facts on the tariffs. most resources mention 'some' mopeds and motorcycles....the one place mentioned in this thread does have it in the checkout process, but is this for stock already in the states too? or is this company mentioned milking it early? or is there still no new tariffs on chondas?

i have even reached out to dealerships, with no reply. its a mystery to me and i have dug and dug for the facts.....

If I was a dealer who had bought inventory prior to the terriff, I would mark up my current inventory now to compensate for the new replacement cost. For dealers that don't buy inventory, and just order/drop ship as customer place orders, I think they would be the ones taking advantage of the situation

Hi Douglas,

Thanks for the info, I had already ordered it from motomaxus earlier in the day at just shy of $1,500.

Quick question, any particular carb to put on this bike? Also, what's the problem with the gearing, geared to low? I'm 6'2" @ 240lbs, not sure if it needs to be changed with my tiny body :). I'd read somewhere that the counter sprocket from a CRF230 will work, but who knows really...

I had a decent bike but the kids kept burning their leg on the exhaust while taking them over small jumps. Hoping this one does not burn them or tear up my yard as bad as the WR450F....

Rich

I installed a Mikuni vm26. I have a 30 pilot, and a 120 main with 2 1/2 turns out on the fuel screw at sea level. The carb comes with a 20 pilot, and a 100 main. depending on your elevation you should be ok getting a 25, 27.5, and a 30 pilot, and a115, 117.5, and a 120 main. The Mikuni really helps with keeping the idle consistant, and seems to help with the overall responsiveness.

Carb.
https://www.amazon.com/Mikuni-Carbur...70_&dpSrc=srch

Pilot jet
https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p...ries-Pilot-Jet

Main Jet
https://www.rockymountainatvmc.com/p...eries-Main-Jet

I also have a pump carb that has not been installed yet, but another member did, and he is extremely happy with it.

I bought the bike for mostly trail riding, so it was very important to me that the gears wouldn't be so hight that the engine would struggle going up steeper grade hills. I personally never drove the bike off road with the stock rear sprocket, but just by driving around the neighborhood I could tell it made a world of difference.

The stock rear sprocket is a 530 pitch 38 tooth, and I installed 52 tooth. My gear ratio went from 2.73 to around a 3.73 just from changine the rear sprocket . 1st and 2nd gear pull hard. I want to say the 48 tooth puts around 3.55, and is in line a little better with the chain guide.

Rear Sprocket Details
http://www.chinariders.net/showthread.php?t=20620

I have three 520 chains still in plastic from our race days so I’ll probably convert to CM250 sprockets which seem to fit both the engine and rear hub. Probably go with the largest rear (42) and a 13 counter sprocket.

Will definitely be getting the Mikuni and jets on the way! Thanks again!!!

Congrats on the bike! You are correct in that the generic ebay countersprocket for 'CRF150, CRF230, etc., etc' will work on this engine since they are all pretty much one and the same as Honda in that dept.

I am under the impression that the rear sprockets from the XL185, XL250, etc. will work, like most of the popular enduros, but someone who has an Apollo can confirm or deny this.

Well, called about the bike and it will be 3-4 weeks before I can take delivery. I asked them to cancel and will find another seller that can ship now.

I just called Jason at Orion Powersports. If your interested, he has them instock, and there is no teriff charges on the Dirt bikes he sells yet.

Orion power sports - 817-573-3953

https://www.orionpowersports.com/apo...embled-tested/

His price is 1569.00 unassembled shipped.

Still trying to save a buck...lol Does $800 sound reasonable for this bike?

https://pensacola.craigslist.org/mcy...642586929.html

Rich

I'd buy it for $800
I like the red, mine was supposed to be red but came with white plastics and red stickers.

It does look good��
We’ll pick it up Saturday and hit the trails and some lite MX ��

That's a screamin deal. Just make sure to change the oil, and go through the bike. Check every bolt, spokes, change the brake fluids. Plan to spend a couple hours making sure everything is good and tight.