Thinking of buying Hawk 250 - Questions!
 

Hello! I am thinking of buying a hawk. I've watched a lot of videos on it and read much on this forum. I just have a few questions!

I am thinking of ordering from apscusa.com, are they ok to order from?

Will it be able to be registered street legal in NY? I've read a lot that people had good luck doing so, but would be pissed if I bought this and then was unable to register!

What's your honest opinion on this bike? Is it a POS? I'm mechanically inclined and don't mind tinkering but I also don't want it breaking down on me in the middle of nowhere. Do you guys think it will last if properly maintained?

I purchased my Hawk from APSCUSA a few months back. I spoke with Don and he had answered all my questions. Believe me I had a lot . So far I love my Hawk. Do the mod suggested here on this site and you will like it even more. The Hawk is a solid built bike. I think these motors are just about bullet proof. I far as I know NY will register and tag for street use. Buy it would be a good idea to ask the DMV before you purchase.

If I call the DMV, what make and model do I ask them about? Or what other info do I give them?

Mine is listed as a Haosen HS250Y-A Hawk . APSCUSA will send you a notarized MCO, Bill of Sale and an Odometer Disclosure Statement.

Probably a no go for NY nowadays. I wouldn't purchase one for NY. From the enthusiastic members here, this bike is probably one of the best bargains out there, and would probably most likely NOT strand you at any time (depending on how you beat on it), but NY used to plate these, and then someone had no luck plating their's, and that was the last time I read about NY (I think it was upstate, and if memory serves me, the DMV did register it as an off-road bike).

Member 'SANY' from NY did not order one because of registration uncertainties, and ordered a Bashan Brozz 250 instead. Actually, he ordered a Bashan Storm, and the dealer sent him a Brozz, but that is another tale for another time. Where the Hawk is rough around the edges and needs a few tweaks here and there (as well as a digital dash), the Brozz comes smooth(er) and digital-dash-ier, for a few hundred dollars more. More recently, member 'letsride' bought a leftover 2014 Brozz, and posted about it and how much he loves it. I would steer you in that direction rather than a Hawk--just for the registration uncertainties, although the bonus is the Bashan bikes seem to generally be great bikes, too, like the Hawk, but slightly more expensive. In your case, quoting a famous Seinfeld episode--"No Hawk for you!"

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Just called the DMV in NY, all they seemed to care about was whether it had an MCO and insurance and gettin' their money. I told her it was a chinese bike but she didn't care, as long as it had an engine.

Ha ha, sounds a little like Mexico. I do some riding in baja from time to time and down there essentially if it rolls it's legal :tup:.

I don't know where you live in NY state, but from where I live it is less than 70 miles to the state of Vermont. You can even register it by mail, if you so choose. Once it is registered in Vermont as street legal, you can register it in any sate in the union. Except, maybe, California. A codical was signed about 100 years ago to accept any other states registration and title as valid. California may elect to violate this codical, but they better hope that the other states never refuse to recognise California titles as valid.

I think you are ok in NY as long as the MCO states "Motorcycle". Not "Dirt bike"

With California, one has to move from another state, and have had the bike (or [most] any other vehicle) registered for at least 6 months. The loophole they have closed is that one cannot already be in California, and buy a vehicle and have it registered in another state for 6 months, and then bring it in to California and register it in Cal. Again, one has to move to California with their vehicle. You would have to prove you moved from Vermont, in other words (for California, not sure about any other state).

The other loophole is that they will NOT recognize certain vehicles, such as ATVs, or off-road buggies such as Razors like I see buzzing the streets of Yuma, AZ near daily as street legal no matter how long one had it registered.

This is probably the BIG decider...somehow, you will want to make sure the seller states 'Motorcycle' on the MCO. I wonder if Adam Renkleff could make sure the MCO states 'Motorcycle' since the MCO has to be issued after it is sold and the dealer contacts RPS. Contact member Adam Renkleff since he is the sales manager of RPS who distribute the Hawk.

APSCUSA had my MCO as Motorcycle :tup:

Sorry I'm late to the party, everyone! Just got back in town from Tuscaloosa, Alabama. Tomalak007, I recently (Halloween day this year, to be exact) picked up a Hawk and I'm unbelievably happy with it. Honestly, if I had known about the Hawks before I bought my big DR, I don't think I would own a DR. I'm seriously that impressed with the bike. There are some great mods out there for these bikes, but definitely start with the engine and performance side of things: Carb retune/replacement; spark plug upgrade; valve adjustments; and sprocket and chain swap. After that, you can decide if you want the digital dash and other goodies. I'm busy fabricating a rack for the tail-end of my Hawk now. Everyone on this forum is a veritable gold mine of information, and I haven't found anyone yet unwilling to help out. The big difference between the Hawk and some of the other bikes out there is that the engine isn't counterbalanced. I don't really notice a difference personally, but it can get a little buzzy at the higher RPM's. Just a thought to consider. Also, speaking with the guys over at CSC would be a good solution to the registration concerns you have. Their bikes are all 50-state legal, but you'll spend a few extra buck for them. On the other hand, the CSC bike already comes with luggage. Keep us posted and let us know how it turns out for you. Happy New Year!!

Well I ordered the bike! From apscusa.com. They have it on sale for $949 plus shipping. Fingers crossed.

Let us know how they are, post Christmas, as a few members had some problems getting their bikes (I believe some have still not gotten them!) from ordering a week or more ago. Did you make sure they will put 'Motorcycle' on the MCO certificate rather than 'off-road' or 'dirt-bike' (or whatever barrier NY might put up for you)? Now that I think of it, NY might not be as regulated when it comes to registering bikes as neighboring states, such as the strict laws next door in NJ, Penn, or CT.

Tom... what was the final cost? Sounds like you got a good deal unless they are charging you 500 to ship. Can you link it?

http://www.apscusa.com/New-2015-Hawk...017_p_726.html

I added one to my cart but it won't give shipping costs. When I clicked check out I was told shipping costs would be added later and I didn't want to create a user account to move on because I already have a Hawk. You should be able to enter a zip code before you get that far but it didn't work. :shrug:

Yep, I tried the same thing. Kind of a weird thing, most sites will give you the shipping cost before going all the way and entering credit card info.

I know that when ordered my Hawk it was $1395 on the website that I purchased from and no hidden shipping costs. The guy that delivered it called before delivery. A semi with a lift gate and a pallet jack made my heart melt.

From their website:

Sale Ends Jan. 1, 2017. Shipping Cost is NOT Included on these Products. Please call for quotes or go to www.freightcenter.com to obtain your Personal Quote.Average shipping cost range from $85.00 to $450.00 Depending on Product and Shipping Location.

So this might be a decent deal. Guess I will call them later today...

$949 !!! I think I might order another. APSCusa are straight shooters. I bet shipping will be the straight shipping cost.

Oh I got a quote when I called Don at apcsusa. From Tennessee to Rochester, NY it was $128 to ship to a commercial dock and $195 to ship residential to my house. I chose my house because I didn't want to deal with the pain of getting my trailer out. So all in all it will be around $1150. No they didn't hide the shipping cost, it was stated on the web site that the sale items were not free shipping like the rest. I called Don and he seemed like a straight shooter and more than helpful. I'll give a full review when I receive the order, but I was pleased so far, he didn't seem like an cheesy dirt bag car salesman.

Thanks tomalak007! I'm in RI so the shipping should be comparable.

Yep, 1149, I think that the best price I've seen on these hawks since I have been hanging around this place. Thats the final cost I put up for my bashan, less feature rich than the hawk.

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Great price,the Hawk exceeded all my expectations so far and the pro circuit exhaust really transformed the bike.

under 1,200 to your door is a SWEET deal !:tup:

on a side note, You're not that far from myself or Sany.....he's in Syracuse if I remember correctly, and I'm about 1/2 way to Buffalo, in Batavia.
Congrats on the purchase!

Oh nice, if everything works out we'll have to hook up for a ride! You guys know any trails?

I know of a few out this way, but none out towards you or Sany.


you know, this thread and your findings have truly got me re-thinking my stance on how my money will be spent.....the best I've been able to find on a Brozz in orange, is through powerrideoutlet.com, being roughly $1,650 shipped to my door.

https://www.powerrideoutlet.com/dirt...l#!prettyPhoto

If I were to just buy a Hawk, the difference in cost would be give or take $500.

the main differences being the taller highway ratios on the Brozz, the rear rack on the Brozz, the more road friendly sneakers on the Brozz, the digital dash (in mph) on the Brozz, inverted forks on the Brozz,
and it's counterbalanced making my daily commute a little nicer at higher rpms.

also, with the Brozz there's a small chance that it will come equipped with a nicer battery and NGK plug right outta the box.


on a side note, BOTH bikes would require being on the receiving end of a new pipe and chain...those mods are a mute point.

decisions, decisions.......

Be Careful, When I was trying to hunt down a Brozz to buy. The number listed on Power ride Outlets site was out of service. I wanted to call to verify availability.

And the biggest point for your $ 500, the dot street sticker.

OK Blue Hawk $1100 OTD and on the way! Hopefully friday or monday! I ordered some Carb jets and an iridium spark plug off amazon. Just hoping my bike doesn't ship all smashed to pieces now lol! I am looking forward to putting together with my 6 year old son.

Guess I should start by introducing myself, I live in New Hampshire and I've been lurking around on this site for longer than I hate to admit. I've been on the fence about purchasing a dual sport bike. I have read far to many posts on the Storm, Brozz and Hawk that it's hard for me to keep the bikes straight. I really liked the Brozz and thought that I'd wait until spring to pull the trigger, but I happened to stumble on the end of year sale at ASPCUAS and couldn't pass up the deal. I spoke to Don today and confirmed the sale and received my confirmation email shortly there after. If all goes well I should have a disassembled Hawk in my garage by the early part of next week!! So far ASPCUSA has been great to deal with, the shipping charges are reasonable, I was quoted 249 to my door or 149 if I pick it up at the shipper. The shipper is located less that a mile from my work so that's where I'll take ownership of the bike. Final price of $1098!!!:yay::yay::yay:
Woohoo!!! I have mod money left over!!:yay::yay:

And :thanks:to everyone on this site for the knowledge you've provided in helping me feel comfortable about purchasing a "China bike".
Tom

tlelectric...i see what you have been doing. siting on the fence like a predator hawk and waiting to strike.

i think the winter is the best time to get these bikes on sale. i got mine for 1150, but i think you have the record now.

heres your cheap bastard trophy.:hi:

http://www.noveltytrophies.com/prodi.../PDU-657-G.jpg

Yeah that Don guy at apscusa seemed really knowledgeable and helpful, if all works out well I will buy an atv from him as well. He said he sends out the MCO that day as well.

Congrats TLelectric! Whereabouts in NH? I just put a bid on something near Littleton for a vacation/retirement home.

mine came in a nice metal angle iron cage covered with cardboard box. no damage. ups was the shipper.

Lmao!!

That reminds me of a trophy I got when I used to play pool. I always wondered why I didn't get the gold pool shooting guy on the top. I'm still laughing because it also didn't have the 8 ball on the front. lol

http://www.noveltytrophies.com/prodi.../PDU-657-G.jpg

Cheap Bastard Trophy!! LMAO, I'm going to use that one!!

I'm located in Candia, just East of Manchester on 101 heading towards the seacoast. I have friends that live in Franconia and try to "visit" in the winter for some slope time at Cannon Mt.

I hope this isn't a omen but the strangest thing happened while I was surfing "China Riders" last night, I saw a flash and sparks outside my window and the power went out. I went outside to see what had happened; a tree branch had fallen and took down the power line outside my house, it literally broke the line in two with one end on one side of the drive way and the other end on the other side. I called in the down line and power was back on in just over two hours.

As indicated by my site name I'm an electrician, my neighbor is a retired lineman, and I have several friends that work for the electrical utility, when the line truck showed we only needed a few beers to make it a party!!

The voodoo in all of this is the power came back on at 12:00 midnight, I didn't have to reset any of the clocks in the house???

I thought I owned that title :lmao: